Public members rude to meghan

[RheanaT]

I've seen a clip on Instagram where a group of women completely blanked MM when she spoke to them. It was awful to watch.
I feel so sorry for her, she didn't deserve that at all.
I saw another clip where someone had asked her for a hug, she obliged and when they hugged she really held the member of public and closed her eyes, it looked as if she really needed that hug .
No wonder she ran away from the UK

You are being disingenuous and wilfully ignorant
There is nothing in what Phishy has said which suggests that she is being ‘racist’.
She is simply pointing out that when someone wants to criticise a POC they will often begin by saying that they are not racist and that their best friend, cat, dog is black.
I am white, but have heard people say things like this on numerous occasions.

I would usually challenge you on the real definition of ‘racism’ and what it entails. However, this is probably not the time or place.

I fear if I went down the Twitter wormhole it would be too consuming

You're not wrong there!

It seems they'll just try to continue to fight even if the Sussexes are back in the RF fold. It just makes it even more blatant that this was never about the Sussexes at all for them and just about criticising the RF and the UK.

As someone who isn’t a social butterfly, I do feel immense sympathy for them all. I can’t imagine anything worse than being on display for a family funeral in such a public way and that’s before even taking into consideration family ‘difficulties’.

As for Charles and Camilla they must be on their absolute last legs and there are still 6 days until the actual funeral.

She is simply pointing out that when someone wants to criticise a POC they will often begin by saying that they are not racist and that their best friend, cat, dog is black.
I am white, but have heard people say things like this on numerous occasions.

So what? I've never understood the issue with this. Why shouldn't people defend themselves from accusations of racism in this way? It is after all ridiculous to claim someone one is racist when they for example have a black spouse/family members/mixed heritage children. Always sounds to me like people are more invested in making sure an accusation of racism stands than actually getting to the root of where the other persons perspective lies.

Personally I always prefer to stay away from sweeping generalisations around race - whatever the shade of skin.

As the great Morgan Freeman said when asked what could be done to address racism "Stop talking about it!" You can search for the video and listen to him say it himself amongst other brilliance.

"So what? I've never understood the issue with this. Why shouldn't people defend themselves from accusations of racism in this way?*

Because they say this then make a racist statement! I am talking of my experience in my actual life

They both only have themselves to blame. Regardless of the OW interview and all the rest, the complaining about their lot in SA, was grotesque, self indulgent and tone deaf. They both come off as duplicitous, whiny and petulant. They also made the finally months of his supposedly beloved grandparents utterly miserable. I think people have been very restrained to towards her. They have also insinuated that the Whole of the UK and GB are racist in an effort to close down any discussion, whilst spewing faux profundity about democracy. That is really chilling to me.

Because they say this then make a racist statement! I am talking of my experience in my actual life

I am sorry to hear this but it does not mean that people cannot use their own lived experience to defend themselves or explain why it cannot be so, when they are accused of being racist.

I have to confess I am confused as to why Meghan needs anyone to tell her about bronzer and make up, and any other issues around grooming for this formal occasion. Is she not an accomplished, worldly, erudite woman in her forties? As is so often asserted on here? How could such a person not be aware of what is suitable at such an occasion - a funeral, royal or not. She looked thoroughly well turned out and appropriate at the walk about so she clearly is aware. So infantilising to suggest she would need support around these matter.

Tbh though, I suspect that photo had been filtered by another party for their own reasons. That is why I never trust photos, only very recent footage from reputable sources.

Exactly

Saying someone is racist or someone said something is racist is often seen as worse than actually being racist.

TikTok is even worse 🤣

I agree

@PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog
@PaddleBoardingMomma
Totally agree.

Agreed - proximity to marginalised people is not the defence many people think it is. Having POC friends, spouses, children doesn’t automatically give people a pass to make racist statements.

Agreed - proximity to marginalised people is not the defence many people think it is. Having POC friends, spouses, children doesn’t automatically give people a pass to make racist statements.

Please don't twist my words. I'm giving no indication that I think it's "a pass". I just wonder why the go-to has to be "sly, ignorant, racism" and why no one can ever be given the benefit of the doubt, why plain lack of knowledge or different circumstances and yes lived experiences can never be considered? Especially when that person explains their own close links to people of other races. For those who make such pleas for us to excuse Meghan's behaviour, frequently citing her experiences as excuses, I find it hypocritical that this does not extend to anyone else.

Personally I think the days of unfounded and divisive accusations that a person is "a racist" for minor un-meant "transgressions" around race are coming to an end. I see polite push back and challenging these assertions in a way I never did before and I am grateful for it though I know others want to hold in tightly to their ability to control the discussion with them.

Please don't twist my words

I wasn’t talking to you.

I wasn’t talking to you.

You were talking about points I made though.

@Ohnonevermind
I don’t think that it was @Meanderings who talked about Meghan and her mother having a starring role. I think she was quoting someone else.

@Meanderings

my apologies 💐 sorry the thread has closed and I can’t correct it there

I agree with you, London Wolf.

The obsession with a total stranger on this thread really isn’t healthy.

She’s been here for a week and no one has asked her how she is.

That joke's a bit stale now to be frank.

They have both behaved impeccably, leave them alone.

Well no one had posted on since Wednesday so a bit odd that you felt the need to bump it back into active again. Did you want to stir things back up again? Plenty of Royal threads running at the moment to post on.