The Palace seems to be Leaking like a Sieve

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These people are apparently worried about what Harry will write in his memoir but we've somehow managed to get a play by play of what has gone on this week.

From blocking Meghan's visit to Balmoral to how the joint greeting of well wishers came about.

Please note that these writers are making it clear they are speaking to Palace sources.

Now when H&M start speaking (in defense of themselves), people will complain.

Prince William and Harry’s reconciliation is just for mourning, not for life

Bombshell text from William to Harry that sparked an unexpected show of family unity after the pair failed to meet at Balmoral in the hours after Queen's death, writes RICHARD KAY

@fUNNYfACE36 you are very naive if you think that every report about a court case is 100% accurate. If that was true, every newspaper would report the same thing about every court case. Even just Meghan and Harry's court cases have been hilarious - with some reporters claiming they won and others that they lost.

Why this fixation on 'reputable news'? News stories are just that - stories, or, 'narratives', that are filtered through an interpreter and a specific interpretative lens. Our search for a 'credible news source' has decoupled us from our own sense of understanding about what is going on in the world. We actually know most of it already because the underlying motivations that drive people do not change - revenge, greed, love, preservation of a way of life, expansionism, etc.. We know what the driving forces underpinning H & M, the RF, or W & K are. Everything else is just froth. Coming on here and thrashing these things out is as good as any news source, 'reputable' or not.

I really dislike M & Hs behaviour but apart from the assuming she would go to Balmoral they haven't put a foot wrong and have acted with discretion and respect at this time. I will reserve my judgement for when they go back home. If they start whining selling stories to Oprah then my opinion will stay the same. They haven't been badly behaved at all this time.

..And Balmoral was her favourite residence....then Windsor Castle was her favourite residence.....then back to Balmoral.....then Windsor....(and said by the same TV presenter on different occasions - someone who obviously doesn't have a very good memory.....)

The first half yes, the second half was a load of faintly veiled digs. yes of course scandals should be referred to but the tone and detail was definitely not without bias.

🙄Don't claim knowledge you don't have then! You do know that the royal family have a never complain, never explain rule? They extremely rarely comment on anything in the press.

Great listening to James O Brien on LBC, calling the hate out.

An outdated soundbite.

If that was the case, why did Charles do the Dimbleby interview saying how awful it was growing up and criticising his parents.
And Charles's spider letters manipulating laws?

What it actually is... is.... "never explain, never explain"

This is incorrect. The "never complain, never explain" rule was The Queens policy, not the Royal Familys.

And Charles has complained and explained.

Don’t forget the media manipulation by Diana. She had Richard Kay of The Mail in her pocket and regularly used him to float stories when she wanted to get her version of events out first. A Source close to Palace (Diana) also ensured the media were aware of her ‘secret’ visits to homeless shelters and out of hours hospital wards to out do Charles as she knew her image would easily knock his off the front pages.

If she was playing the game, you can bet others are too. We are constantly fed what the Palace wants us to believe - a subtle form of propaganda really. Don’t forget, there was a pretty harsh hatchet job on Fergie too when she became a ‘liability’

Why this fixation on 'reputable news'? News stories are just that - stories, or, 'narratives', that are filtered through an interpreter and a specific interpretative lens. Our search for a 'credible news source' has decoupled us from our own sense of understanding about what is going on in the world.

I would argue this is the problem. Credible news sources are a way to at least get the facts on something. If a story says that person x said y, old fashioned journalism ethics would insist that y was in fact said. Information needed to be sourced from real sources.

A whole bunch of people on the internet is NOT a useful way to get information. I'd absolutely agree that discussion and debate are a useful way to decide how you feel about the facts or how you interpret the facts. But the facts are the facts and made up facts in newspapers is a shameful element of journalism today.

I hadn't heard that but yes load of rubbish.

They all do this. Like William's "secret" selling of the Big Issue on the streets, Or Charles and Camilla using friendly journalists to change the image of Camilla.
This is PR. They all use PR professionals.
They are a family business and operate like one with the pulling together t times and internal rivalry common to family businesses.
The real difference is that they are funded by taxpayers and the lines of succession are determined by birth.

It was clearly Balmoral. The Queen told me herself.

Well she told me she had a caravan at Skegness and liked nothing more than a stroll along the front with fish and chips for tea. Do you think she was telling me fibs?

Well we were having a chat in the supermarket at Balmoral.

I agree. Any initial assumption or argument by Meghan (if there was one) that she should be at Balmoral was completely tone deaf.

But since then they seem to have behaved perfectly. They agreed to an appearance with William and Kate, Meghan looked serious but not fake sad or tearful during the procession and basically they have behaved as you would expect.

Manufactured outrage over holding Harry's hand or being unsure what to do with flowers is unfair and a bit silly.

Obviously we don't know how they will behave in the coming weeks and months but at the moment they seem to be staying in their place.

She probably felt forced to say it because she was there. I will always believe her caravan at Skeggy was her favourite. She said it was fun because people were always telling her she looked like the Queen but laughed when she said she was.

She had another caravan at Heacham in Norfolk, but not everyone knows.

Reporting the truth is only one of the functions of news reports. They also simultaneously propagandise, both intentionally and unintentionally.

That means that we can never possibly separate these multiple functions out, so why bother? Far better to take all with a pinch of salt and work out what is going on in the world for oneself.

I'm not sure what was so terrible about thinking she could go to Balmoral. It's not like it's a two up two down in Coronation St, I'm sure there are enough rooms that she wouldn't be in the way and wouldn't need to be anywhere near the Queen.

I don't know why Catherine going or not going had anything to do with it either, Catherine obviously wanted to see her kids on their first day at school, Meghan's kids were in California.

I'm sure some of the royals might not want to spend time with her but as their mother was dying/dead that was hardly the biggest issue they had to deal with.

It was obviously a Queen look-a-like leaking these lies. Was it Omid Scobie in a head scarf.

I wonder if she was a member of the Caravan Club? Perhaps not, it might have blown her cover.

Surely not.