What now for M&H

[OliviaBean]

I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

My dear, it is not I that is speaking the nonsense.

To answer your question about Boris, yes that is exactly so.

Imagine a system where it was possible for an elected and governing head of state to chuck out the leader whenever they felt like it.
Really think about it.

(hint: it could never work)

@Ommommomm i have no idea what you are talking about (and I wonder if you do either).

I suggest as a closest neighbour, you look at how the Republic of Ireland operates.

That's actually a genius idea!

Exactly. We would end up where we are, ie with a pool of people to pay for that would quickly get out of hand if the HoS was regularly elected.

The point is that this is all part of our history and a “tried and tested” system that largely works.

The first King Charles literally lost his head to the republic movement that quickly turned into a dictatorship before evolving into the system we have held ever since. Having an elected government AND a monarchy where neither holds ultimate power largely works but of course nothing is set in stone and it could all change in time.

However, as you say, it would take a great deal of working out.

Not feted ?? Really ? So the thousands of people of ALL ages I witnessed ( and was part of ) lining the Scottish roads just fancied a few hours standing around .
I will try to attach photos from our local paper .
Only letting me post one .

I believe you. You don’t know what I am talking about. However, I do.

I also understand how the Republic of Ireland operates. It would not work here any time soon because there is a completely different history, and the present is built on the foundations of historical events.

My opinion of M and H is completely and entirely based on the way they have behaved, behaviour I have seen and heard with my own eyes and ears. I always liked H and really liked her at first.

However much you might like to frame their detractors as frothing haters who only read the Daily Mail and listen to Piers Morgan, it is incontrovertible fact that:

They gave an interview to Oprah full of provable lies and slurs upon the RF, in the weeks his grandfather was dying and when the queen was preparing to lose her husband of 70 years.

M had an interview running last week in which she made veiled threats ‘I can say anything’ and slagged off the RF again, when the queen was frail and as we now know, dying.

M has shown herself time and again to be self serving, ruthless and prone to lying. She has all but sneered at the British public - the day of her wedding, which cost UK taxpayers millions, the streets were filled with well wishers. She later dismissed the wedding as a thing, a spectacle and claimed it was not even a real ceremony (later proved to be a lie). She recently compared herself to Nelson Mandela and claimed a South African person had told her they were celebrating in the streets in South Africa (a country she has recently annoyed by describing the beautiful residence they accommodated her in as a housing unit). This has also turned out to be untrue.

She has caused distress to two very elderly people in their final years and has done so wilfully. That is why people dislike her. Nothing to do with racism or the tabloids.

Found this from the hugger

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I reckon Meghan will be doing a lot of soul searching right now.

Who hasn’t fallen out with members of the in-laws? It happens all the time, albeit not in such a public way for most of us. You fall out, you make up and put it behind you. That’s what grown ups do.

Prince Harry clearly has emotional and mental health issues, and Meghan also comes from a place of hurt as evidenced from her broken relationship with her father.

This could actually be the making of them both. A watershed moment where they both grow up.

Exactly this.

Kate also got very bad press before she was married. Doors to manual, waity Katie, work shy, a mother who plotted her romance, her uncle and on. I'm just giving some balance here.

Don't think she's the soul searching type. More likely to move on with her own truth. I imagine she must be struck by the hugeness of this historic moment and possibly wondering if she got the best part of the deal, finding herself playing pranks in Ellen's car park rather than being part of the dynasty.

I don't think anyone has mentioned the whopper she told on Oprah about the Archbishop of C marrying them privately before the wedding. What was the point of that if not to rile people about the huge expense of their very beautiful wedding?

You sound so kind and stable yourself there.

I was thinking of this and thought what a sliding doors moment meeting Meghan potentially was for Harry.

If he had still been an active part of the Royal Family he would surely be fairly front and centre during both the Jubilee and the proceedings following the Queen's death. Given his popularity with the general public. I am sure he would have been given an elevated title (maybe Duke of Edinburgh??). He would have almost certainly been given more military responsibilities.

Feel quite sad for him. I understand a lot of this is of his own making. I am not blaming Meghan at all but I think it was the combination of their two personalities that led to this estrangement.

Must be very odd and lonely for him to be at the middle of this vastly global event focussed on his beloved grandmother and to have so little role and relevance in it. Is almost as if he is confined to Frogmore cottage for the duration.

I hear he won't be able to wear military uniform.

They will have to think long and hard how they go forward. I think there will be little sympathy/interest if they continue with attacks in the media after the funeral.

She got lambasted for her choice of dress for the engagement pics

Yes, she threw a 'Sayonara Zara' party and proceeded to celebrate her engagement in a £56,000 dress. How uncharitable of people to consider that in poor taste! 🙄

of course every country has history. But change is inevitable. If we all stuck with history (the devil we know), we would never have inventions or progress.

I think it is time for soul searching without knee jerk ...”but what about Boris? What about Trump” (both are no longer in power precisely because of democracy) as a lazy excuse for a non-democratic, religious and class-based HoS.

It's so often this way. The nastiest, most creatively spiteful comments come from those claiming to be speaking in kindness & defence of their preferred side/belief. It's fascinating actually.

I can't see how Harry can possibly release the memoir anytime soon, especially before Christmas.

I remember the Carol concert the now Princess of Wales hosted last year and the song by Tom Walker 'For those who can't be here' that she played the piano on. It was such a poignant song for me last year. How poignant that song will be this year and her involvement in it. There will so much focus on all the 'firsts' without the Queen this Autumn and in the lead up to Christmas. Remembrance Sunday, the annual dinner at Buckingham Palace, Sandringham, the Christmas Day church service, the 'Kings Speech' etc. etc.

To release and publish a book slagging off a mourning family in the lead up to Christmas would be crass beyond belief. To do it before then would be unthinkable.

"According to a Hollywood source"

I hope he does. The family's behaviour in the last couple of days has been utterly disgusting, they deserve no respect.

They'll believe anything out of sheer hatred, desperados.