Ugh Andrew

[TarasChoc]

Why is he been allowed to be putting on such a show to the general public right now? All the waving and bowing, is he really so clueless that he believes that people want any acknowledgement from him.
I understand he's lost his mother and is entitled to grieve and share these moments with his family. But he's been removed as a working royal and is in disgrace. Could he for once not just behave with dignity and take a back seat in public and be grateful his mother was lenient enough while alive to allow him still to be part of the Royal family.

@TarasChoc do you have previous with the last poster, she seems to be innocently asking what happened today?

No previous @MeredithGreen genuine apologies if I've got it wrong..
Maybe I'm just little prickly after seeing so many posts bordering on defending Andrew. His mother may have died, lots of sex offenders mothers have died and I've no desire to see any of them flaunting themselves in the media either.

Again I'm very sorry if I misread the post.

@TarasChoc

I can't stand him I was genuinely wondering where you had seen him?.
Ive been glued to the TV all day today and not seen him..

🤣🤣🤣

On another post I said I hope he sits in anonement by her coffin, day and night and then hides away at the funeral

🤣🤣🙈🙈 I'm sorry. That's what fury at other women defending the indefensible has put me today.
Anyway Andrews "show" will most likely be on back to back repeats on sky news and bbc alternated with William and Harry.
Anne and Edward were dignified, could he not have just followed their lead instead of reverting to type.

I’m not defending the man, I hate him and think he shouldn’t be in the public eye. I just don’t like seeing him being called a paedophile or sex offender when he hasn’t been convicted of anything. As a pp said, innocent till proven guilty.

Yes but where was he ? At Balmoral? I only saw Anne and her children?

I can understand where you're coming from on that score @MeredithGreen and of course you're right.
However we are all aware he is very unsavoury so unsavoury even his beloved mother had to sanction him.
It's galling to see anyone let alone mature females jump to his defence in the matter of minutes.

Unfortunately because he didn't face court as people keen to prove their innocence would,he will live under this cloud.

The public are intruding on this family's grief. He lost his mother.

So is he a paedophile or not? Being a sleaze bag isn’t a criminal offence. Why shouldn’t he publicly grieve his mother?

This is spates.

There we’re other non-working royals as well. And two young women have just lost their beloved granny. Their dad was supporting them. You could feel the sincerity from them all and how much they adored her. I don’t like this whole casting a life of eternal damnation - which includes grieving you own mother - on people, yes even pedophiles (not that Andrew even is one)

Also all the royals have been waving at and greeting waiting crowds since HMQ’s death, as they should because it’s generally considered a duty at worst and a privilege at best to meet the people who’ve made the effort to support them.

I agree, he should not have been on any "walkabouts". I have no idea how he has the brass neck to think that the public want to see him. He's an embarrassment. I don't begrudge him being at the funeral, grieving for his mother etc but he should not be doing any public meet and greets.

But he made his choice to stick with bad company ,and his reputation is tarred. He should stay out of public service.

Also, I do believe the other girls who were trapped with Eptstein who couldn't escape, and think all those men should be held accountable and found.

He was very obviously playing up for the cameras trying to be what he thinks the public want to see.

However it was at a family church service rather than a RF walkabout from what I understand.

Hopefully as soon as the funeral is over, Charles will make sure he stays out of the public eye as much as possible

She was probably coerced into it and offered to him. However, I don't think she is entirely innocent.

That's a terrible thing to say about a young a woman being controlled, manipulated and exploited by far, far more powerful men.

i was a bit WTF when he started speaking to the public near the TV cameras. It was totally unnecessary and just made me think he was grabbing any opportunity to have the spotlight again. I don’t doubt he is grieving his mother - but it doesn’t mean all is ok with his situation. There’s other people to speak on behalf of the family that people would rather hear from if required - Edward, Anne, Sophie etc.

He’s lost his mother.

I understand supporting his daughters who were visibly upset. I understand wanting to see the floral tributes. I understand wanting to walk to church.

But him acting like he wasn’t disgraced - idiot. however he hasn’t been found guilty or charged with any crime & he isn’t a pedophile whatever anyone says. He may be a rapist/sex offender but he isn’t a pedophile.

She was one of the top ‘recruiters’ for Epstein herself

TinaYouFatLard · Yesterday 23:26
So is he a paedophile or not? Being a sleaze bag isn’t a criminal offence. Why shouldn’t he publicly grieve his mother?

No, he is not a paedophile; yes, he is a sleaze-bag. Even before the V.G. business he was known to be a very unpleasant man. He paid off VG on legal advice, which, it is said, suggested that a U.S. Court could decide on a jury trial, which could lead to a conviction on insufficient evidence. Apparently it often does.

Well he certainly chose to hang outbound with a convicted sex offender who paraded a supply of teen girls in front of him.
I don’t think even he is so stupid that he couldn’t connect those dots

I did wonder how long it would take before someone started blaming victims of sex trafficking for their own trafficking!

after all it couldn’t entirely be the fault of the significantly older, wealthier and more powerful men with criminal convictions could it?

no much more likely that VG just happened to be innocently hanging out by choice as a teen girl with Andrew’s convicted sex offender friend. Probably the same for the other girls too

well done @centralsunnypark for being the first to mention it whilst simultaneously demonstrating your own ignorance of the case, of grooming and of human trafficking.