Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

Why? Because she’ll hanging around in London with nothing much to do? She can always have the kids brought over if she wants.

They’ve chosen to write books that are upsetting to the family in order to keep up a profile that allows them to make money.

I don’t blame them for wanting out of the RF, but if you talk about your family in this way there are consequences.

Yet more lies!

If Meghan is so terrible, why do you need to invent lies to smear her all the time?

The only person she's estranged from his her dad, and the half-sister she barely knew.

One single friend dumped her (not Meghan dumping the friend) many years before she met Harry because she couldn't handle Meghan getting divorced. That friend sold Meghan out in multiple interviews when she hadn't even spoken to Meghan in years, and it's clear from interviews that she was obsessed with Meghan's husband and overly fixated on their marriage.

The only other person to claim to have been ditched is a woman she met once who lied about being her agent (Meghan is still close with her actual agent who has never spoken publicly).

None of Meghan's actual close friends who were all at the wedding and baby shower are estranged from her!

@StolenWillowTree
You say that opinion on MM was far more unfavourable before her wedding than it is now.
All I can say is that"recollections may vary" - and I think very few people would agree with you.

Charles and Anne were already there. William et al flew up during the day but she had passed before they arrived.

I believe Charles, William and Harry did fly together after Diana died.

It was alleged in a book written by Tom Bower. So take with a massive pinch of salt.

Are you referring to someone asking what they think archie will look like? A perfectly normal question to be honest. My DH is white and we wondered what our baby would look like with the mix of our genes.

Yep - they created this mess and I’ve no sympathy them. How in the world could they think Meghan showing up would be welcome or appropriate is beyond me. It would have ended up being part of a Netflix documentary-no doubt it will be anyway as they make her absence into something else to complain about.

I wish he’d renounce his titles, remove himself from the line of succession and go live the private lives they claim to want without slagging off the RF anymore.

I don't think it's helpful to say that it's either racism or her behaviour. Dislike for her can come from either/ both camp. There clearly was some racism and probably continues to be. That doesn't mean she isn't now also a bully.

I have judged Meghan on her own words and actions - not what us reported in on the press which is often dubious.
She has blatantly lied repeatedly, and that is what I have judged her on.
It's such a pity she ended up being this way, in the beginning she appeared to be a wonderful, mature strong woman and a breath of fresh air, I was thrilled we were going to have a person of colour in the RF, she was beautiful and talented and Harry adored her.

It has all soured so badly now, the things that come out of her mouth are just beggars belief. She's let herself down badly.

Absolutely

Then how come there was such extreme and non-stop hate on Mumsnet, on social media, on other forums, and constant articles attacking her in the press and making coded racist comments?

That's the point - the actions of the minority of extremist racists who live their lives obsessed with hating a stranger do not represent the public.

Harry and Meghan were cheered at the Jubilee.

If Meghan's so hated, how come it's just the same dozen or so posters spending every waking second attacking her? Everyone always trots out the same line "oh I really liked her during the wedding and now I hate her" yet it's many cases it's the same usernames bashing her now that were posting racial slurs and bashing her non-stop before the wedding.

@theveg You clearly didn't read Mumsnet before the wedding, or the tabloids. She was hated before the wedding. And she hasn't told any lies or made any outrageous allegations.

Same. I liked her to begin with and have judged her on her own actions and decisions and statements. She has given us a lot to observe, so the notion that if you don't like her you must be racist is so ridiculous.

Feel sorry for her???? Is this a joke?

I had a lot of sympathy for her and understood that she wanted to break away from the royal family and leave the U.K. I don’t understand why, since leaving the U.K., she keeps talking about how unhappy she was them rather than living the life she has now. I really don’t understand why she came back to the U.K..

I was talking specifically about Mumsnet, not society in general.

You reap what you sow.
Meghan was not this well known when she was an actress. She is now very well known because of her marriage into the royal family - and she leverages that as much as she can. I just think it’s interesting she keeps beating the drum of the royal family to continue to keep her profile high in the media.

I feel sorry for her. Just from this thread, everyone calling her a liar and worse, saying what they think happened, plus all the rubbish in the tabloids. And she has to just put up with it? Of course she wants to fight back and put her story out there. And it's not like there isn't precedent, what with Charles and Diana, both biographies and interviews almost forgiven and forgotten with time.

And I don't think she's lying either. She has her recollection and other people have theirs. That's just how families are, messy and scope for plenty of misunderstanding. The problem is that every little thing she mentions gets amplified to the front page of newspapers.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11198885/King-Charles-told-Prince-Harry-not-bring-Meghan-Balmoral-dying-Queen.html

Are you referring to someone asking what they think archie will look like? A perfectly normal question to be honest. My DH is white and we wondered what our baby would look like with the mix of our genes.

The "ginger Afro" comment was offensive. Surely, anyone can see that.

I don't feel bad for the events of the day that she died. I wonder if there's any regret about not taking up the invitation to spend the summer at Balmoral ?

However I think that the funeral is going to be super nasty for them. They were in the second row at the Jubilee and massively goaded over it. With VIPs like the Bidens visiting, they could be bumped even further back.

Future podcast episodes are going to be more scrutinised. Hopefully she won't have mentioned the Queen but who knows?

I don’t know how anyone can defend Meaghan after she said, with tears in her eyes, that’s not enough in life “to survive, you need to thrive” - while in Africa!

I wonder what the people for whom she was supposedly there to highlight their plight(!) thought of it?!

Until then I was sympathetic to her but after I just couldn’t believe my ears.

Before that she also wrote on bananas 🍌 (yep!) messages like “you are loved” to women who escaped prostitution! I’m sure these women might have appreciated a written note from her, something to cherish and look at during low moments , but at that time I thought maybe she misjudged this, but not after the Africa interview!

in her world there is only her and her plight, and she’s a forever victim.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you are wrong - most people who are pro monarchy were pleased that Harry had met and married someone - he clearly was desperate to emulate William and his happy family situation, he said that often enough.
They decided they wanted 'out' of the RF rigmarole - they were given the opportunity to change their minds - they made their choice.
She binned her father - her business
Earned her own money - not sure anyone begrudged that but obviously her career as an actress didn't fit in with her role in the RF logistically or in any other way.
Called out her in laws - not sure really how she called them out to be fair
Sued the DM - who gives a shit about that - absolutely no one
is black - who gives a shit about that - again absolutely no one. She was welcomed into the RF - Diana had challenges and issues and she knew pretty much what it all entailed, Meghan didn't and it was clearly a shock when reality hit her - understandable.
The dislike of her stems from the fact she tells lies which are called out as lies but the damage has already been done. She is not a good person.