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sborber · 09/09/2022 12:21

latetothefisting · 09/09/2022 11:53

This is completely wrong, it was used from 1923 and was made compulsory for nazi party members from 1926. The whole reason she was doing it was because it was associated with the nazis and was thereforeall over the news at the time.

Similar to someone doing a "v" for victory a few years later because Churchill popularised it or the "rock out" hand gesture after seeing a band in the 80s or a child saluting after seeing a guard at Buckingham palace....they are just copying something that was in the popular consciousness at the time - the early version of a tictok video if you will.

This certainly doesn't mean I think the queen was a nazi (apart from anything else she was a CHILD copying her mother).

for context the whole English football team did the salute at the Olympics www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3165923/Pictured-Queen-taught-NAZI-SALUTE-Edward-VIII-secret-1933-film-Balmoral.html

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Thank you for clarifying!

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Kite22 · 09/09/2022 12:25

I didn't know about the c section.
Wow. That's amazing.
Nor the breast feeding.
She was a remarkable woman and will be truely missed I feel.

wottabargain · 09/09/2022 12:32

sborber · 09/09/2022 12:21

Listening to the HoC now and have learnt that King Charles' reign will be known as the Carolean era.

I've been wondering about this! A bit weird though, but no weirder that the Charlesian period I suppose.

SammyScrounge · 09/09/2022 12:38

sborber · 09/09/2022 10:05

You mean the salute given in 1933 before it became commonly associated with the Nazis?

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The salute and the man with the funny moustache must have been irresistibly comic to children when they first appeared. Children are very good at picking up on absurdities.

AdoraBell · 09/09/2022 12:45

I didn’t know that was descended from the Stewart’s until I just heard Ian Blackford speaking in the HoC.

HollyHocks13 · 09/09/2022 12:45

I didn't know that her birth was witnessed by the Home Secretary at the time. Apparently the Home Secretary had to be present at all monarch's births in order to verify the royal lineage. This law changed when she gave birth to her children.
Can you imagine, having someone like Priti Patel in the delivery room with you, just observing!!! 😳

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sborber · 09/09/2022 12:59

HollyHocks13 · 09/09/2022 12:45

I didn't know that her birth was witnessed by the Home Secretary at the time. Apparently the Home Secretary had to be present at all monarch's births in order to verify the royal lineage. This law changed when she gave birth to her children.
Can you imagine, having someone like Priti Patel in the delivery room with you, just observing!!! 😳

Mind boggling isn't it, but quite a dark reason. I believe it was in case a child was born "with a disfigurement" and "was swapped" to be "an imposter". One very, very old tradition I'm so glad ended with the Queen's first birth.

(Ref britishheritage.com/royals/royal-tradition-ended-prince-charles)

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Haydugi · 09/09/2022 12:59

The Queen received lessons in constitutional history from the Provost of Eton from the age of 11.

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sborber · 09/09/2022 12:59

Kite22 · 09/09/2022 12:25

I didn't know about the c section.
Wow. That's amazing.
Nor the breast feeding.
She was a remarkable woman and will be truely missed I feel.

Agreed ❤️

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Andylion · 09/09/2022 13:01

BarbaraofSeville · 09/09/2022 11:45

I knew about her living in Malta because we holiday there quite a lot and have local news pages on FB, where they’ve reported about her (currently derelict) house being restored and opened as a tourist attraction.

Their life in Malta was also shown in a documentary after Prince Philip died, as it was due to him being stationed there that they lived there.

I only discovered yesterday when I was looking for where Balmoral actually is on Google Maps, that if you find the area (or any of the other royal palaces, the little streetview icon turns into a tiny Queen in a white dress with a blue sash. She may also be waving, but is too small to see clearly.

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I just spent five minutes trying to get that work. ☹️

GaffNest · 09/09/2022 13:05

Not so much a ‘fact’ but a 99.9% certainty.

(Something Clive Myrie on the BBC said today that just hit home)...for most of us she will be our only Queen.

With Charles, followed by William, followed by George, health permitting that’s at least 50 years.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 09/09/2022 13:05

HollyHocks13 · 09/09/2022 12:45

I didn't know that her birth was witnessed by the Home Secretary at the time. Apparently the Home Secretary had to be present at all monarch's births in order to verify the royal lineage. This law changed when she gave birth to her children.
Can you imagine, having someone like Priti Patel in the delivery room with you, just observing!!! 😳

But when she was born she wasn't the child of a monarch.

HollyHocks13 · 09/09/2022 13:06

Bernadette - good point! Maybe it was all royal births then..?

mondaytosunday · 09/09/2022 13:07

I heard this morning that one of her great legacies was changing the line of succession to the first born, not the first male born.

QuebecBagnet · 09/09/2022 13:09

sborber · 09/09/2022 09:55

I had no idea she birthed (the now King) Charles via C-section, at home, IN Buckingham Palace... Imagine!

I was coming on to say this. And also that she was born by section at a private house in London.

ChickenGotLegs · 09/09/2022 13:10

mondaytosunday · 09/09/2022 13:07

I heard this morning that one of her great legacies was changing the line of succession to the first born, not the first male born.

Isn't that quite a recent thing when Prince George was born?

SoupDragon · 09/09/2022 13:11

Andylion · 09/09/2022 13:01

I just spent five minutes trying to get that work. ☹️

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It has to be via a browser rather than an app.

Queen facts you never knew before yesterday/today

SoupDragon · 09/09/2022 13:12

ChickenGotLegs · 09/09/2022 13:10

Isn't that quite a recent thing when Prince George was born?

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Yes, it was done when Catherine was pregnant (or possibly when they got married.... before George was known to be a boy anyway)

MaggieMagpie357 · 09/09/2022 13:20

I had no idea until yesterday that her father was given a lethal cocktail of drugs to end his life more quickly, so it could make the morning papers!!!

sashh · 09/09/2022 13:22

TugboatAnnie · 09/09/2022 11:57

Why did she have Charles at Buckingham Palace?

All royal births were home births, most other births were home births too.

William was the first born in a hospital.

There was a fully equiped and staffed operating theatre.

What's really strange for me is that all those in line tot he throne have just gone up one

dotdotdotdash · 09/09/2022 13:33

She bred dorgis (daschund/ corgi cross)

HappyPeach · 09/09/2022 13:37

I'm gobsmacked that the queen needed clothing coupons for her wedding dress! I have to look this up

Cleaningismycardio · 09/09/2022 13:43

MaggieMagpie357 · 09/09/2022 13:20

I had no idea until yesterday that her father was given a lethal cocktail of drugs to end his life more quickly, so it could make the morning papers!!!

This was her grandfather George V. Her father George VI died in his sleep after being out on a shoot earlier that day. Although he had cancer, his death was not expected at that point as he was still active and carrying out his royal duties. The Queen was on a royal tour at the time and had to come home due to the unexpected death of her father.

StaplesCorner · 09/09/2022 13:48

Why is it Carolean? 🤔

Narcheska · 09/09/2022 13:50

StaplesCorner · 09/09/2022 13:48

Why is it Carolean? 🤔

It’s to do with the Latin for Charles.