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Harry's biography

117 replies

Jasminejoy · 09/09/2022 01:39

Surely he will now accept that it would be very insensitive to release a book that negatively targets his family?8

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00100001 · 09/09/2022 08:08

Maireas · 09/09/2022 04:31

The York "girls" are women in their 30s.

Yes, but people have the same view of them as they do Harry, thinking of him a young man in his 20s. It's odd.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 09/09/2022 08:15

Seemslikeaniceday · 09/09/2022 08:07

If I was H I would be quite worried now the Queen is no longer here as I believe she tempered Charles and Williams public responses. The message she put out was so clever as it immediately stoped the negative press cycle whilst keeping the door wide open for H & M to change their minds.

It immediately stopped the negative press cycle -really? Hmm

ColadhSamh · 09/09/2022 08:24

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2022 04:41

The Queen is dead, after 70 years of long and loyal service.

Instead of celebrating her life and mourning her loss, you choose to make it about Harry and Meghan.

Think for a minute about what that says about you that you can't wait to have a pop. You are deeply unpleasant people.

I usually read these H & M threads for amusement, sometimes in disbelief at the hatred, but agree with your sentiments here. Some just cannot help themselves. This is not the only thread to pop up since yesterday with at least one being deleted. Yet nothing yet, to the best of my knowledge on the son who had to pay millions rather than face court on his alleged paedophilia. Strange priorities.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 09/09/2022 08:25

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/09/2022 04:41

The Queen is dead, after 70 years of long and loyal service.

Instead of celebrating her life and mourning her loss, you choose to make it about Harry and Meghan.

Think for a minute about what that says about you that you can't wait to have a pop. You are deeply unpleasant people.

Precisely- but it makes you wonder a significant number on MN are more likely to think of M&H - I know if this was my family I would be more concerned about having Andrew and his sexual antics with very young and vulnerable girls on my conscience and in my family line for ever. I know which i'd rather have in my family and which is more likely to give me sleepless nights.

I'mBNow waiting for someone to ask why I'm mentioning Andrew on the thread when they are talking about M&H !

Seemslikeaniceday · 09/09/2022 08:51

PreparationPreparationPrep · 09/09/2022 08:15

It immediately stopped the negative press cycle -really? Hmm

Yes, I’m not saying it stopped the ongoing and recurring level of press, what it stopped was that one news story cycle. Look at the newspapers once they published HMs statement they moved on to the next story.

Foronenightonly01 · 09/09/2022 08:53

H&M should be requested to sign NDAs before being allowed to take part in anything. I’m sorry for Harry’s loss - I do worry that they way this couple seem to operate these days they’ll see this as another ‘opportunity’ though☹️

Seemslikeaniceday · 09/09/2022 08:56

PreparationPreparationPrep · 09/09/2022 08:25

Precisely- but it makes you wonder a significant number on MN are more likely to think of M&H - I know if this was my family I would be more concerned about having Andrew and his sexual antics with very young and vulnerable girls on my conscience and in my family line for ever. I know which i'd rather have in my family and which is more likely to give me sleepless nights.

I'mBNow waiting for someone to ask why I'm mentioning Andrew on the thread when they are talking about M&H !

What PA did was vile, but she was a young woman (17) not a young girl.

Readinginthesun · 09/09/2022 08:56

Foronenightonly01 · 09/09/2022 08:53

H&M should be requested to sign NDAs before being allowed to take part in anything. I’m sorry for Harry’s loss - I do worry that they way this couple seem to operate these days they’ll see this as another ‘opportunity’ though☹️

I really cannot see them agreeing to that.

Luredbyapomegranate · 09/09/2022 08:57

He'll have signed a contract, so there's nothing he can do to stop it being published now.

Wagsandclaws · 09/09/2022 09:09

I also can't understand why PA as awful and repugnant as he and his actions were is called a peadophile 🤷‍♀️

She wasn't a young girl as @Seemslikeaniceday has pointed out she was a young woman.

He frequented with a peadophile ( JE ) but I wasn't aware he was one yet I see him called nonce and peado a lot, why is that?

As for H and M I'm sure they are actually very sad, i think he was close to his Grandmother but I do agree with the posters upthread in that I'm not sure how much say PH has in when his memoir gets published.

J0y · 09/09/2022 09:12

I was wondering if Harry will go ahead with his biography. Surely not. Hope that being back with his family makes him see it would not be worth the money.
He doesn't need the money.

Seemslikeaniceday · 09/09/2022 09:18

I agree, H in particular will be very sad. I recall William being asked about his relationship with the Queen and he said it changed after his Mum died and that the Grandmother side came to the fore and I would expect the same for Harry.

Its why I was so cross with the media and sections of the public who at the time of Diana’s death were demanding they all come down to London to be paraded for their ghoulish pleasure. It was the first time in my memory the Queen put family before duty. I understood keeping them at Balmoral kept them out of the media spotlight which is what any grandmother would do.

lunar1 · 09/09/2022 09:20

I'm glad the Queen will never see the content of that book.

DFOD · 09/09/2022 10:25

J0y · 09/09/2022 09:12

I was wondering if Harry will go ahead with his biography. Surely not. Hope that being back with his family makes him see it would not be worth the money.
He doesn't need the money.

He was going to donate his fee ($20m) to charity …. but PenguinRandomHouse would have made way more than that on sales - so it’s not just a case of returning his fee and stopping the deal.

Maybe the RF will pay them off to not publish? Or to edit?

As I said before the publisher will do the maths on timing, content vs potential revenue vs risk to their corporate reputation if they are seen to be complicit in smearing HMQ memory at this time.

RandomPenguinHouse · 09/09/2022 10:59

DFOD · 09/09/2022 08:00

I agree with this.

Launch was always announced as end 2022 - obviously aimed for the hot-spot Thanksgiving / Christmas market.

Appears that it has already been written and signed off by Harry - I wonder if he has any regrets. It’s likely he has zero control to edit or decide the launch date at this point if the process has moved out of his hands.

It will be the call of the giant that is Penguin Random House. They will do the maths to calculate sales in the early days of HMQs death vs any bad PR for them as a corporate.

They won’t give a shit about any bad PR for PH or the RF - only how far that backfires on them.

Who knows they might rethink the project and consider that a few new chapters of family reconciliation or total wipeout/fireworks in the next few months will be worth waiting for for a blockbuster ending…..or that just becomes volume two.

I wonder how much - if any - control PH has on the process.

Good post.

It’d be so interesting to be privy to all the calculations and conversations PenguinRandomHouse will have about this. And to know how much control Harry has.

Ommommomm · 09/09/2022 12:21

He'll have signed a contract, so there's nothing he can do to stop it being published now

If he returns whatever he’s been paid to date, plus recompense for whatever PRH has spent on editors and other expenses he can stop publication.

I can’t see that happening though. The optics will look bad as it suggests he was about to sink to a new low in trashing his family.

The best he can do now is damage control and tone it down. However his publishers are unlikely to agree as they will have paid for him to “dish the dirt”.

I think Harry is a bit fucked to be honest. Whatever he does it’s going to look terrible.

BadgerB · 09/09/2022 12:22

On the News this morning, Harry arrived (without Meghan) several hours after the Queen died. He left this morning on his own.

Sounds like no bridges were built

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/09/2022 12:24

He'll have signed a contract, so there's nothing he can do to stop it being published now

If this is true I can imagine it causing difficulties, but beyond that this doesn't seem an appropriate time to make Harry or his wife the focus

All I'll say for now is that I hope they're able to control themselves and behave appropriately

RandomPenguinHouse · 09/09/2022 12:25

I’d love to know if his contract has any clauses in it relating to key events such as the death of the Queen. Like a royal-specific force majeure clause.

DFOD · 09/09/2022 12:40

RandomPenguinHouse · 09/09/2022 12:25

I’d love to know if his contract has any clauses in it relating to key events such as the death of the Queen. Like a royal-specific force majeure clause.

That would be for H benefit and I doubt he had the foresight or emotional integrity to consider that when at the time it was negotiated (Q1-2 2021?) he was likely in a much more raw and angry place.

Also a clause for H to halt publication would have “cost” him something in the deal I would assume.

I wonder if his sullen disposition over the last few months is the growing reality of the impact any revelations / dirt backfiring on him or any regret that he brokered deals at a hot headed time?

Readinginthesun · 09/09/2022 13:19

Slightly off topic but I am surprised there hasn’t been even a semblance of unity over the last 24 hours .
I think it would certainly have looked better had Harry travelled with William etc( plus the environmental aspect ). I don’t know who was to “blame “ for this but that plus leaving so early this morning certainly did nothing to hint at any reconciliation.
If William etc could tolerate Andrew surely Harry could have joined them ?
I do think it was wise that Meghan didn’t go and I truly think it would be better if she stays away from the funeral . Yes I KNOW she is Harry’s wife but how awkward would it be ?

DFOD · 09/09/2022 13:58

Readinginthesun · 09/09/2022 13:19

Slightly off topic but I am surprised there hasn’t been even a semblance of unity over the last 24 hours .
I think it would certainly have looked better had Harry travelled with William etc( plus the environmental aspect ). I don’t know who was to “blame “ for this but that plus leaving so early this morning certainly did nothing to hint at any reconciliation.
If William etc could tolerate Andrew surely Harry could have joined them ?
I do think it was wise that Meghan didn’t go and I truly think it would be better if she stays away from the funeral . Yes I KNOW she is Harry’s wife but how awkward would it be ?

It can go either way.

Grief can bring out the worst in families as people are raw and emotionally dysregulated.

Any cracks can be magnified and hostilities escalated at sensitive times with blame and shame being bandied about.

People sometimes double down in their stance and relationships become even more polarised.

Or families can take the opportunity to heal.

It depends on the intent and emotional capacity, intelligence and resilience of all parties.

Early days. I hope they find a positive way through.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 09/09/2022 14:39

BadgerB · 09/09/2022 12:22

On the News this morning, Harry arrived (without Meghan) several hours after the Queen died. He left this morning on his own.

Sounds like no bridges were built

I think the clear implication is he arrived as late
as he could, on his own, and left
ad early as he could. It isn’t great optics.

Snog · 09/09/2022 14:53

Yes Harry seems to be lone wolfing arriving alone at Balmoral 3 hours after the rest of the family at 8pm and flying back alone at 8am the next day.

Doesn't seem as though there is any reconciliation going on. I imagine H&M will become an unwelcome sideshow at the funeral.

I don't really understand why Harry didn't visit Prince Phillip or the Queen in the weeks before their deaths but then does want to go to their funerals having created a great deal of stress for them both at the end of their lives. Why?

It will be interesting to see how King Charles manages H&M now that he is the monarch as well as Harry's father.

SueSaid · 09/09/2022 15:06

I hope he sees how popular his df is, how much support the rf has and ditches the gossip book. It will do him no favours at all. Time to let the persecution complex go.