A positive and non-bashing thread about Meghan and Harry

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

I have rejoined Mumsnet after leaving a few times. The first time I left was because I was concerned about the coverage and uncomfortable undertone of the commentary on Meghan Markle after the engagement was announced, before she had said a word, and before she had married into the Royal Family.

I came back around the time she and Harry left the UK, to be stunned by the pages and pages upon pages of virulent threads. At that time Mumsnet actually banned all threads about Meghan, it had become so toxic.

They have now made their lives in Montecito, but still the virulence continues. Yes, she speaks in a mix of therapy plus corporate gobbledegook, yes, she is occasionally vapid and irritating.

But who is she actually harming that she deserves all this virulence?

Yesterday, when the new UK Prime Minister was elected, the coverage in the Super Tory Daily Mail was all about a seven minute speech to a bunch of young people. Article after article after article. Body language experts. Counting the number of times she said "I" in a speech in which she sought to inspire young people by attempting to relate to them. Before that, 18 articles were devoted to the first podcast by the Daily Mail alone. 18!

Same with her podcasts. The series is about HER and HER take on labels, and she discusses HER take with HER guests.

It's all very anodyne, even vanilla. It does not deserve any of the vitriol sent her way.

SO:

As the next twelve weeks are going to be wall to wall Meghan, and the Meghan haters and detractors have several threads here that fill up rapidly with bile, scorn and mockery, I have started this thread, reminiscent of previous " positive" threads, to talk about what some of us like, enjoy, find amusing and even (gasp) admire, in the next few Meghan rich weeks.

If you don't have anything positive to say, that's okay, you can keep to the existing threads.

Looking forward to a bile-free discussion of everything Meghan!

Well it is Penguin. I was surprised they even agreed to publish it at all, given their sterling reputation and links to royalty. Maybe they will decide in light of the death of Her Majesty the book is best consigned to the bin.

That is / was not their aim.

You have missed the $$$$$$$.

They want to be super wealthy and part of the global elite.

Every time I read this batshit and every time I'm amazed that people have the neck to try it on
So Andrew fine to attend a funeral but best if Harry stays away because he is so much worse

Keep this up though - you are helping but not the cause you want to

You can’t join the billionaire club on the back of a few podcasts and books.

it was always unrealistic.

Harry is about to learn a simple life lesson that many of us with less flesh in the game, and without the global glare of self generated publicity.

‘Sometimes we were not aware of just how lucky we were, the true value of something/someone until it has gone’

Harry is just about to find out what life looks like without his royal privilege, his wonderful family and immense access to wealth.

The impact and chill of his life changing decisions are yet to be felt, but they will be soon.

Charles is the King so deffo inner circle! (Just joking)
Sarah, given we bankroll her to live at Royal Lodge Windsor, she might not be inner circle, but she's certainly looked after, all after being divorced for 25 years from a disgraced member of the RF

Harry is just about to find out what life looks like without his royal privilege, his wonderful family and immense access to wealth

He's not only just left you know. He's not taxpayer funded

But how long has it taken for SF to get back in the inner circle?
Its not that long ago the she wasn't even allowed to have christmas dinner with her children as they were invited to eat with the Queen.

@Festoonlights
'His wonderful family'

Now I know you are being tongue in cheek !

People don't often leave 'wonderful families ' ESPECIALLY when same family is loaded

I love this

I find it very difficult to square this PH in 2016 with the PH we now have in 2022. This is the very same man who had a planned trip to the UK but couldn't find the time to visit his beloved Granny who he would have known probably didn't have much longer to live.

Something has gone very wrong.

@Festoonlights I read elsewhere that Harry flew from Germany. How do you know that he 'chose' to arrive 'hours and hours' late? You seem to choose to an invent a narrative that you want to believe and assume bad of Harry.

I think the Royal Family have done Harry and Meghan wrong. I have enormous respect for how Harry and Meghan have endured the attacks on them in the press, (imo with grace and class), and how their family have treated them. I only hope King Charles apologises to Harry and Meghan. Otherwise he will lose them for good.

Exactly! I know we're on opposite sides puzzled but even with our mutual respect for each other, I honestly could not disagree more. Everyone is entitled to go to a grandparents funeral

Harry is just about to find out what life looks like without his royal privilege, his wonderful family and immense access to wealth.

I am really puzzled that you are talking like he is only now stopping being a working royal. He already stepped back. Even his security has been contested when he is in the UK, so what royal privilege has he lost again?

As for wonderful family: that's your interpretation. Maybe, seeing that it is actually HIS family, he has a different view. He may not have liked that his father cheated on his mother for instance, with the paramour becoming his stepmother? You can't assert he had a wonderful family based merely on your wishful thinking, without knowing how he actually felt about it. And perhaps he considers his wife and kids to be the wonderful family he has created, and needs?

As for wealth, he and Meghan are earning their own money. They are amassing their own wealth. It won't ever be as much as the RF's. Good. Because that wealth was made on the back of exploitation of, among others, those of us of the "darker" races and our nations.

Better millions from Netflix and Spotify than from India and Africa in my view!

As I said she might not be inner circle

We fund her as the 60 books under her royal title don't pay her enough for her lifestyle

Yes William too, awful for him as well as Harry but he has been more protected from the brutal press I feel. The MSM tend to focus on one of them and it was Harry

William had years of the press accusing him of stringing Catherine along, being boring and out of touch, favouring his in laws over his family. He also got to watch his in laws be mocked by the press for years all because of who he was. Meanwhile, Harry was seen as the fun, cheeky one who actively served in the military. He was the favoured one until he started slating his family and the country.

@MrsMaxDeWinter
As for wealth, he and Meghan are earning their own money. They are amassing their own wealth. It won't ever be as much as the RF's. Good. Because that wealth was made on the back of exploitation of, among others, those of us of the "darker" races and our nations

Is this a joke? They've done worse. They make their money off the back of a dark institution. That's literally the only reason they are capable of making any money at all.

But then to make matters worse, while other members of the royal family pay for that wealth by providing public service, they dont.

I'd like you to answer a simple question for me: if H n M are not making, and do not wish to make, money through this ungodly institution, they why have they not rejected the titles of Duke and Duchess and rejected the titles of Prince and Princess for their children?

They were at frogmore cottage on Thursday

@thefoggiest Harry had no choice being born or born into this family, titles come with it, why the hell should he have to give up his birthright, or those of his children, all because there is at least one racist in the Royal Family and he and his wife have been abused by the press? It's his birthright, why should he have to give it up?

Harry will never be to provide the billions Meghan expected. No chance of giving her anything like the lifestyle she is looking for. His best chance was weirdly within the royal family not outside. Very sadly this huge miscalculation on their ‘worth’ as outsiders is going to become increasingly apparent.

I wonder how interesting he will be to Meghan as a washed up royal that’s out of ideas and living in stuff that happened decades ago. The public have already lost interest.

Agree.

He HASN'T made it about him. How has he made it about him? He's barely been seen. You seem to be making up things that don't even exist to justify your hatred of Harry.

@CatsandFish
Harry had no choice being born or born into this family, titles come with it, why the hell should he have to give up his birthright, or those of his children

Because his birth right is apparently built over a bedrock of blood, tears,:privilege and abuse.

Considering the evils of empire, the racism of the royal family, and everything that institution symbolises, why would you want the birth right it is shackled to?

Harry will never be to provide the billions Meghan expected. No chance of giving her anything like the lifestyle she is looking for. His best chance was weirdly within the royal family not outside. Very sadly this huge miscalculation on their ‘worth’ as outsiders is going to become increasingly apparent.

I wonder how interesting he will be to Meghan as a washed up royal that’s out of ideas and living in stuff that happened decades ago. The public have already lost interest.

This is both scurrilous and ridiculous. How do you know what she expected? This is all projection. And how do you know that he will spend his life as a washed up royal out of ideas? This is wishful thinking.

As for the public losing interest in them and their ventures: you may wish this to happen, but you cannot control how they are viewed outside the UK, which, you may have forgotten, is no longer their home. It is clear you want them to simply disappear, but it really won't happen.

How in god's name do you know what Meghan thinks and wants.
You're just making it up to fit some sort of ghastly narrative in your head

Some of the public who loathe them seem to lap up the rags that print absolute crap about them to generate clickbait and ££££££
If the public have lost interest how come there can be 21 articles in one edition of the Fail??

Totally this.