Page 5 | Revenge - by Tom Bower

TideTimeSea · 2022-08-08T12:03:23+00:00

As the other thread has filled up I wondered if anyone would like to discuss the book here. I’m listening to it on Audible now.

notanotheroneagain · 10/08/2022 09:17

What's Bower saying now? That MM curated her deep fake charity work since she was 11? 😂

Didn't he say she did not do the work, has that now changed ? Can't keep up.

His book of lies quickly went down the charts and it's now outside the top 10 , plus he had to chop off over 50%. Maybe people woke up to his BS. Is it even being sold in the US?

Samcro · 10/08/2022 09:36

OP- I don’t know why you are engaging with the MM cheerleaders. They are never going to admit that she’s ever done anything wrong.

so you only want people to post if they want to slag her off?

Samcro · 10/08/2022 09:39

ajandjjmum · 10/08/2022 09:09

Very much so, in that the author interviewed dozens of people who'd had interaction with Meghan and/or Harry.

As you are very well aware, the writer did not meet Meghan, and also instructed her closest friends not to speak to him.

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so its not a true picture. just gossip.

Serenster · 10/08/2022 10:02

His book of lies quickly went down the charts and it's now outside the top 10 , plus he had to chop off over 50%. Maybe people woke up to his BS. Is it even being sold in the US?

The slightest googling shows this is all rubbish. The book is being released in the US in early September. It is currently number 15 on the Amazon UK bestseller list for all books (not just biographies or books about the royals - all books). It is still on the Sunday Times best seller list too.

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TideTimeSea · 10/08/2022 10:02

I think as a PP articulated so well, it is the inconsistencies (dare I say dishonesty) that irks people. I too was a a huge fan of MM and as an immigrant to the U.K. I had huge hopes for her broadening the appeal of the RF. I am not a monarchist but I watched the wedding with my kids and wept for joy at the lovely occasion. However their behaviour during the OW interview astounded me as did their actions that followed. It just doesn’t add up. You want a quiet, private, Californian beach lifestyle, great. But then you sign multi million deals with the likes of Netflix to reveal it image details of that same life? It’s dishonest. If they were upfront about their mission, which is to earn money because of their RF connections, I would have a lot more respect for them. I don’t know what they didn’t do what Julia Roberts did and escape Hollywood to live a peaceful life, if they really hate the intrusion.

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antelopevalley · 10/08/2022 10:23

They did what did because they had to earn money to afford their lifestyle. Or did you think they would buy a small terraced house and live on the money Diana left Harry for the rest of their life?
It reminds me of the outrage from the Royal Family when Sarah Ferguson divorced Andrew and was given a paltry divorce settlement, so worked. I am not a fan of Sarah, but she took the work she could get such as with Weightwatchers, which was criticised at the time as undignified.
Julia Roberts could effectively retire as she did not have to work.
None of this is rocket science.

KatharineofAragon · 10/08/2022 10:32

Legrandsophie · 10/08/2022 08:36

So did they need such an expansive house? You can buy houses for less money.

And if they had retired from public life and got normal jobs- like a lot of minor royals from European dynasties- then would they need all that security and massive spending. The Swedish royals seem to manage.

He had the larger share of Diana’s estate because William would be the king. The same with the estate of the QM. We also have no idea what endowments they were left by old Earl Spencer or Francis Shand Kydd. So an awful lot of money by anyone’s standard for a family to live on, especially not earned by working at all.

Then the irony is he goes on TV to whine about being ‘financially cut off’ by Daddy!!!!

notanotheroneagain · 10/08/2022 10:32

Serenster · 10/08/2022 10:02

His book of lies quickly went down the charts and it's now outside the top 10 , plus he had to chop off over 50%. Maybe people woke up to his BS. Is it even being sold in the US?

The slightest googling shows this is all rubbish. The book is being released in the US in early September. It is currently number 15 on the Amazon UK bestseller list for all books (not just biographies or books about the royals - all books). It is still on the Sunday Times best seller list too.

Erm, no15 is NOT in the top 10.
Most books spend a few weeks in the top 10 after release (eg. Cawdads etc.)

It's not even on the Waterstones best seller list.

Sunday times are the ones who have been serialising the book, so heavily promoting it.

It is now on £10 quid, and was at £22 when it went on a few weeks ago.
It is not out in the US currently. And it's already tanking - and the UK should be his main audience.

KatharineofAragon · 10/08/2022 10:33

antelopevalley · 10/08/2022 10:23

They did what did because they had to earn money to afford their lifestyle. Or did you think they would buy a small terraced house and live on the money Diana left Harry for the rest of their life?
It reminds me of the outrage from the Royal Family when Sarah Ferguson divorced Andrew and was given a paltry divorce settlement, so worked. I am not a fan of Sarah, but she took the work she could get such as with Weightwatchers, which was criticised at the time as undignified.
Julia Roberts could effectively retire as she did not have to work.
None of this is rocket science.

She could have got a job like any other woman. She worked before she got married. However she would rather sponge off Andrew and sell her connections.

notanotheroneagain · 10/08/2022 10:36

You want a quiet, private, Californian beach lifestyle, great.

When did they say this?
Because I distinctly remember them listing that they would talk to several papers, just not UK rags.

Serenster · 10/08/2022 10:40

Most books spend a few weeks in the top 10 after release (eg. Cawdads etc.)

You are comparing it there to a global bestseller with a movie adaptation currently out! Talk about a ridiculous comparison!

“Most books” sell about 500 copies, just so you know. Any book making it into the Sunday Times best sellers list (which is based on sales from diverse sources, so a publisher can’t bulk buy its own titles to get a book on it, unlike the NYT it’s) is doing exceptionally well.

notanotheroneagain · 10/08/2022 10:42

She could have got a job like any other woman. She worked before she got married. However she would rather sponge off Andrew and sell her connections.

This does not make much sense.
Even in court, if a man/woman is married to a richer, more famous partner, they are given more money in consideration that they would now be used to a certain lifestyles. The fact that they are now recognised and of course, they would have held up their life while looking after the DC etc.

I believe that Madonna and Simon Cowell actually paid their exes lump sums because they recognised the circumstances (without court sanctions).

antelopevalley · 10/08/2022 10:50

Sarah Ferguson was given very little in the divorce settlement. And she did work. She was the face of US Weightwatchers which was heavily criticised by Royal fans as undignified.

antelopevalley · 10/08/2022 10:54

KatharineofAragon · 10/08/2022 10:32

Then the irony is he goes on TV to whine about being ‘financially cut off’ by Daddy!!!!

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He said they lived on money left by Diana. No other inheritance has ever been mentioned by anyone so you are making things up now.
The aristocracy generally do financially support their adult offspring. So being cut off is unusual in that set. Andrew is still being financially supported by the Queen for example as is Edward. So that is not unusual.
Yes he could have bought a terraced house in Newport. How well do you think that would have went down?
He is used to a certain lifestyle, why would he not get work to support that?

KatharineofAragon · 10/08/2022 11:08

notanotheroneagain · 10/08/2022 10:42

She could have got a job like any other woman. She worked before she got married. However she would rather sponge off Andrew and sell her connections.

This does not make much sense.
Even in court, if a man/woman is married to a richer, more famous partner, they are given more money in consideration that they would now be used to a certain lifestyles. The fact that they are now recognised and of course, they would have held up their life while looking after the DC etc.

I believe that Madonna and Simon Cowell actually paid their exes lump sums because they recognised the circumstances (without court sanctions).

She shouldn’t have accepted the settlement that she did then.

KatharineofAragon · 10/08/2022 11:09

antelopevalley · 10/08/2022 10:54

He said they lived on money left by Diana. No other inheritance has ever been mentioned by anyone so you are making things up now.
The aristocracy generally do financially support their adult offspring. So being cut off is unusual in that set. Andrew is still being financially supported by the Queen for example as is Edward. So that is not unusual.
Yes he could have bought a terraced house in Newport. How well do you think that would have went down?
He is used to a certain lifestyle, why would he not get work to support that?

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What work has he got? None, so far as I can see. He’s being offered huge sums to make Netflix films about himself basically.

Roussette · 10/08/2022 11:15

Legrandsophie · 10/08/2022 09:08

@Roussette JLo actually does something for her money and is open about selling herself as a product to make that money. Good luck to her.

I’m not envious. Just disappointed. People have the right to live however they like and I have the right to find the wealthy whinging about not having enough money vexing.

And the QM will is a matter of public record, unlike the Will of Prince Philip. Perhaps you should be better informed before you throw stones.

In that case, would you like to quote exactly what Harry got in the Will? As I understand it, it was slightly more than William but not the lion's share. And why can't someone buy an expensive house if they want? Why are you disappointed. That is so strange.

They released an outline of her Will not the whole Will, by the way. They went to the High Court to try and keep it private.
No stone throwing here.

rocketfromthecrypt · 10/08/2022 11:16

The only way they can make the sort of money they think they need is to sell out Harry's family. They've done nothing else of any particular significance. Yet when Thomas Markle does the same he gets vilified and labelled as 'toxic'. The hypocrisy is staggering. Neither of them will acknowledge that the royal family is the only basis on which anyone pays them any attention, or cash.

notanotheroneagain · 10/08/2022 11:17

What work has he got? None, so far as I can see. He’s being offered huge sums to make Netflix films about himself basically.

Not all work is a 9-5. Lots of people today work for themselves.
But if you want an office job, why have you forgotten that he has 2 jobs at Silicon Valley.

Netflix, so far has been doing documentaries on his charities like Invictus. Unless you have somehow viewed something else ?

Legrandsophie · 10/08/2022 11:27

Samcro · 10/08/2022 09:39

so its not a true picture. just gossip.

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This is so ironic considering that pro- Meghan poster seem to take every negative thing said about the RF as gospel (especially if it is about the Cambridges) but anything about Harry and Meghan is ‘just gossip’

antelopevalley · 10/08/2022 11:34

If people post things that are untrue about other members of the Royal Family their comments are deleted. At times whole threads are deleted. It does not happen with Meghan and Harry though.

Legrandsophie · 10/08/2022 11:36

rocketfromthecrypt · 10/08/2022 11:16

The only way they can make the sort of money they think they need is to sell out Harry's family. They've done nothing else of any particular significance. Yet when Thomas Markle does the same he gets vilified and labelled as 'toxic'. The hypocrisy is staggering. Neither of them will acknowledge that the royal family is the only basis on which anyone pays them any attention, or cash.

Like I said before- how are they any different to Rebekah Vardy or the Kardashians? It’s just as tacky- reality tv, setting up pap shots, selling stories about close family and sueing everyone who calls you out in your behaviour.

notanotheroneagain · 10/08/2022 11:37

Legrandsophie · 10/08/2022 11:27

This is so ironic considering that pro- Meghan poster seem to take every negative thing said about the RF as gospel (especially if it is about the Cambridges) but anything about Harry and Meghan is ‘just gossip’

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And as we had clarified................. the media want a smear on Harry and Meghan. They will not protect them from anything. If you hear something positive, is because it happened, and they can't twist it (not from lack of trying mind).

The opposite with the Cambridges, where they will hide or twist a story to make it sound positive. Unfortunately for them, when someone records them on their umpteenth helicopter flight and posts it online. Nothing to twist there, except maybe just not report on it, so everyone can still bang on about H&M carbon footprint.

Roussette · 10/08/2022 11:38

Legrandsophie · 10/08/2022 11:27

This is so ironic considering that pro- Meghan poster seem to take every negative thing said about the RF as gospel (especially if it is about the Cambridges) but anything about Harry and Meghan is ‘just gossip’

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Absolutely not. I treat a lot of the stories about W&K with disdain. I have a beef with the institution of the RF, and there's lots I think is wrong, but blind gossip nonsense about W&K, no.

Legrandsophie · 10/08/2022 11:38

antelopevalley · 10/08/2022 11:34

If people post things that are untrue about other members of the Royal Family their comments are deleted. At times whole threads are deleted. It does not happen with Meghan and Harry though.

That is not true. I have seen threads and threads on royal stuff that talks about William’s affair with Rose Whatsherface as if it was an established fact and going on and on about the palace placing negative stories about Meghan as if they’ve got the receipts. It is all gossip. You just choose to only believe the good about Meghan and the bad about the RF.