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Harry & Meghan - are they leaders? Who are they leading?

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Snog · 29/07/2022 09:50

H&M seem to be referred to as "world leaders" a lot...which I find puzzling as are they actually leaders? And if so leaders of who?

Are they leading UK citizens due to being related to the Queen?

And does that stretch to them being leaders for the whole world?

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Samcro · 29/07/2022 17:37

Ohnonevermind · 29/07/2022 16:38

@Samcro

what is your point ?

Are you saying he’s not allowed an opinion as he hasn’t met her

He wrote a Book about her, so making money out of her. Yet he has never met her👻

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Ohnonevermind · 29/07/2022 17:45

So are historians all clowns too ? Mary Beard has written about Julius Caesar is she a clown too? Do you not understand that people can study documents and or and talk to witnesses to make informed opinions,

I’m afraid your comment is one of the silliest things I’ve read in a long time.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/07/2022 17:59

Do you have a link/source where they are called world leaders?

I believe several of the remarks which have been quoted came from Twitter, but I'm not about to descend into that cesspit to find them

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Samcro · 29/07/2022 19:44

Ohnonevermind · 29/07/2022 17:45

So are historians all clowns too ? Mary Beard has written about Julius Caesar is she a clown too? Do you not understand that people can study documents and or and talk to witnesses to make informed opinions,

I’m afraid your comment is one of the silliest things I’ve read in a long time.

What are you on about, clowns!!
there is a lot of difference in someone writing about a historical figure, to someone writing a Book about a living person they have never met.
it’s really no different to what you read in things like take a break, just gossip.

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1000yellowdaisies · 29/07/2022 19:59

I don't think anyone is referring to them as 'world leaders'... at least not with a straight face.
Harry especially is completely deluded - he knows absolutely nothing about the world as most people experience it yet he seems to consider himself as a world statesmen and we are all dying for him to share his wisdom. Yeah he probably calls himself a world leader 🙄

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Ohnonevermind · 29/07/2022 20:00

@Samcro
without my glasses you’re emoji looked like a clown, and your statements were completely silly too.

Whether someone lives today or 2,000 years ago, writers are perfectly entitled to research someone’s life and write a book on it.

I’ve never read take a break in my life and never intend to either 🤣 but I’ll take your word for what’s in it.

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Roussette · 29/07/2022 20:01

1000yellowdaisies · 29/07/2022 19:59

I don't think anyone is referring to them as 'world leaders'... at least not with a straight face.
Harry especially is completely deluded - he knows absolutely nothing about the world as most people experience it yet he seems to consider himself as a world statesmen and we are all dying for him to share his wisdom. Yeah he probably calls himself a world leader 🙄

But he doesn't

Call himself a world leader that is

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Ohnonevermind · 29/07/2022 20:05

@Samcro

Should I bin a biography of Putin I’ve just downloaded as he’s still alive ? Will I wait for it to be serialised in take a break

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CathyorClaire · 29/07/2022 20:46

Who is it that's mistaking a not very bright, increasingly desperate in all sorts of ways manchild for a world leader?

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Roussette · 29/07/2022 21:01

CathyorClaire · 29/07/2022 20:46

Who is it that's mistaking a not very bright, increasingly desperate in all sorts of ways manchild for a world leader?

I'd love to know.

Not seen it.

Except on here

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Samcro · 29/07/2022 21:28

Ohnonevermind · 29/07/2022 20:00

@Samcro
without my glasses you’re emoji looked like a clown, and your statements were completely silly too.

Whether someone lives today or 2,000 years ago, writers are perfectly entitled to research someone’s life and write a book on it.

I’ve never read take a break in my life and never intend to either 🤣 but I’ll take your word for what’s in it.

It was a skull just because I like metal.
I have only read it in waiting rooms, but it’s full of gossip like this Book 📖

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Ohnonevermind · 29/07/2022 22:14

unfortunately they seem to be jumping around following causes rather than being leaders.

It takes time to forge a path like the one they want but they can’t afford to take the time to craft a meaningful role as they don’t have the money in the bank to afford it while maintaining their current lifestyle

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lastminutedotcom22 · 29/07/2022 23:53

pilates · 29/07/2022 10:39

Of course they aren’t world leaders.

They are an embarrassment.

This

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KatharineofAragon · 30/07/2022 11:42

1000yellowdaisies · 29/07/2022 19:59

I don't think anyone is referring to them as 'world leaders'... at least not with a straight face.
Harry especially is completely deluded - he knows absolutely nothing about the world as most people experience it yet he seems to consider himself as a world statesmen and we are all dying for him to share his wisdom. Yeah he probably calls himself a world leader 🙄

I find Meghans preaching about working mothers ridiculous. As she’s never been one. Harry’s pontificating about workplace stress and the delicate balance he has to strike so he doesn’t tax himself even more ridiculous.

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Gilmorehill · 30/07/2022 11:55

That’s it in a nutshell. They took the decision to leave with no concrete plan.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/07/2022 13:44

They took the decision to leave with no concrete plan

This is where you're likely to be told they were "forced", Gilmorehill - first by the hideous racism of which anyone who doesn't agree with their every choice is accused, and also because of some allegation that their plans were leaked

And every time it's (conveniently?) forgotten that they appeared quite happy to play at least some role, until it became clear they couldn't have everything on the exact terms they wanted

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Luredbyapomegranate · 30/07/2022 14:02

I mean they are trying to set themselves up as thought leaders / influencers, or Megan is. But that’s just spin. They are celebrities with some media businesses

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unname · 30/07/2022 23:18

antelopevalley · 29/07/2022 14:03

A lot of my American family see them as leaders - whether they like them or not. But they seem to use the word leader in a different way to the way we use it. They use it simply to mean anyone influential/in the public eye.

Literally no one I know here even discusses them. The only time they come up is when they are in the news for thinking anyone in US should listen to them lecturing us.

We definitely don’t call a former TV star and son of a head of state from another country , “Leaders”.

She’s typically “Meghan from Suits” and he’s “Which one is that again?” Until you explain he’s grandson of the Queen, and youngest son of Diana. Doubt most in US would know of him if not for his mother’s massive popularity and tragic death.

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Tania64 · 30/07/2022 23:28

Who cares..you might as well ask if Fred & Mary who live at the end of your road could be or are 'world leaders', what does it even mean?? Don't we have more important things to worry about & to discuss??

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DeeCeeCherry · 30/07/2022 23:36

I've never heard them described as leaders, this is a new one on me. & if they are described thus, so what? Im sure they don't call themselves leaders. This is just more made up froth.

'Amazing' how so many of the RF do dubious shit, yet the 'reaching for any excuse to diss' posts are centred upon Meghan & Harry.

They were smart to bail out from UK, some seem on the brink of madness about them.

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StolenWillowTree · 30/07/2022 23:51

Viviennemary · 29/07/2022 16:15

I think most people have had enough of them tbh.

I'd agree with you if I didn't recognise your username as one of the most frequent and vociferous posters on basically every thread you can drag Meghan's name into over the past few years.


Never thought I'd see the day when Mumsnet of all places attack someone for being pro-reproductive rights.

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MissTrip82 · 31/07/2022 02:39

I think they’re leaders the way Instagram influencers are leaders. There’s a group of people (I don’t know how small) that is clearly influenced by them. These people donate to charities they endorse or buy clothes/items they’re seen with etc.

It doesn’t mean leadership on a world stage and it doesn’t meant they’re moral, spiritual or intellectual leaders. But they do influence some
people on some level, as consumers if nothing else.

They’re the same as other celebs in my view, and I pay as much attention to their speeches (ie not much). Unfortunately we’re not currently in an age where moral or intellectual leadership is praised or valued.

I feel the same about all of the Royal Family - I’m sure most are perfectly pleasant people, and no doubt well-intentioned, but I’d prefer to hear from experts in a field.

I don’t see Harry and Meghan as unusual in this regard at all.

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Iflyaway · 31/07/2022 02:48

Oh god, give over.

They fucked off out of that awful family, More power to them.

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KatharineofAragon · 31/07/2022 05:03

I’d prefer the RF and someone like Princess Anne to vapid influencers any day.

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queenofarles · 31/07/2022 10:33

I wouldn’t describe any of the RF including M&H as leaders.
leaders are people who have achieved global recognition due to their extraordinary work.
Fortune’s Magazine top 3 of the 50 leaders include people like Jessica Arden, John N. Nkengasong, the pioneers of the MRNA, People who have really made a huge difference.

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