Camilla not the Royal Harry said made racist comments

[antelopevalley]

After the revelation that Camilla allegedly said it would be funny if Harry and Meghan's baby had a "ginger afro", one "highly placed source told Page Six: “Camilla is not racist — I can tell you categorically she is not the royal who Harry and Meghan were talking about.”"

pagesix.com/2022/07/22/camilla-parker-bowles-is-not-the-racist-royal-insiders-say/

If true this is worse. It would mean that Camilla says racist jokes, but that another member of the Royal Family had said more damning racist remarks.

Roussette, the clip purporting to show Catherine 'recoiling' from someone has very clearly been edited to show something that didn't happen. It starts very abruptly, nowhere does there seem to be footage showing the seconds before and had been pointed out, Catherine had previously been sitting next to the lady, chatting with her.

I don't know the intention of the few people who repeatedly start and contribute to threads denigrating members of the royal family, what their motives are, but it is nasty to accuse people of doing things which they haven't done to justify the narrative that any member of the royal family is bad. With the obvious exceptions of Harry and Meghan .

@darlingdodo

I am not accusing anyone of anything. I saw the clip at the time, it was literally everywhere, and it didn't go down too well... the optics that is. I don't believe it's edited. Edited means splicing together parts of footage to make it into something that didn't happen. There was a fair bit of discussion about it on SM. Posters on a forum are allowed an opinion, whether that opinion goes against what others think. That was my point.

Editing doesn't just mean splicing bits together, it also means chopping off the start or end of a piece, removing all context. That particular segment of the video has very obviously been started at that very precise moment to show something that isn't there. it can be done with any video. Why not show what happened in the 10, 15, 20 seconds prior to the clip starting? I'm guessing because it showed the two women walking and chatting quite happily together. But that doesn't fit the 'royal family bad' narrative.

I sometimes think it should be renamed anti RF topics !

@Roussette Read what that poster said about me again. That I think calling out a racist is worse than racism. It’s illogical based on my posts, and a indeed very nasty insult.

Its not some kind of sincere opinion or fair debate point.

The OP is all over the boards but exited this one so she doesn’t have to acknowledge once sweet video which blows her bias completely out of the water. These two posters both have an agenda.

I get that you sincerely don’t like the RF except H&M. I don’t think you’re a mean person. I’m not lumping you with them.

With all due respect... you started calling people names, said they are posting drivel, they're mean, they must be getting paid for what they post, they are tone deaf and lack logic skills.

That sort of stuff really does not help discussion, it's unpleasant, so it's hardly surprising a poster disappears. There are different opinions on here and really sorry unname I just don't think anyone has nastily insulted you. Just disagreed. I'm not getting at you, I am just giving my opinion for what it's worth.

This will not go down well but I have to say it. A person hugging her black midwife does not mean anything. It's like someone saying they have a black friend so they can't be racist. It doesn't blow any bias completely out the water at all.
Before you jump on me, I am NOT saying Kate is racist, I have no idea, but I just have to say that. Both videos mean little really.

You are jumping into the middle of a conversation and missed a great deal of it.

This is what I replied to:

It’s odd that you’d think calling people on racism uglier than racism itself.

It's drivel, poor logic and yes, I think someone with an agenda and perhaps paid to stir up hatred.

That is my opinion.

And yes, @Roussette everyone know what you are saying to be true regarding relationships. That isn't even the point of any of this.

Honestly, I am going to ask for this to be deleted now. I have basically been called a racist myself and I really question the motives of a couple of these posters.

I also think it's all highly disrespectful of the other women involved in these videos.

I haven't jumped into the middle of any conversation, I have followed this thread.

I just gave my opinion, as did you.

But no one is 'being paid' to post anything. I've had that levelled at me more times than I care to remember.

I'll leave you to it.

But with your posts you are implying Kate is racist, she can’t win with you, you are happy to say how bad the optics looked when she supposedly recoiled from a black woman, (she clearly didn’t but it suits your agenda) both videos do mean something actually, the first is with a relative stranger, the second is Kate hugging her midwife, someone who Kate has relied on to provide the most personal intimate care a woman could ever experience, there is a massive difference, yet according to you that proves nothing. Your bias is exhausting.

Stop saying things I haven't said or implied. That's the exhausting bit.

As an aside Kate is completely within her rights (as we all are) not to be touched, pushed, grabbed, by anyone uninvited whatever their race, it’s called bodily autonomy, she did not like Tom Cruise holding her hand up the stairs either and blocked him with her clutch bag so he didn’t do it again. If Kate is made to feel uncomfortable with someone touching her is she supposed to just put up with it? is she not allowed personal space just in case she is accused of being a racist?

Tell you what, if you don't see that telling someone they care more about protecting racists than racism itself is highly vitriolic, lets you and me agree to ignore one another.

We have very very different values. You wont hear from me again. Ever.

I didn't say that to you, it's nothing to do with me! Take it up with the poster concerned and stop dragging me into it.

And for being polite and reasonable with you, you 'question my values'?? Oh do give over.

That is insulting but I'll let it go because I am at ease with the values I set for myself in life.

I honestly suggest you move on from this thread and forget it, life's too short.

Perhaps the black woman who Catherine allegedly flinched away from in thr Caribbean tour had really bad BO, or perhaps she was taken by surprise. I expect they're always pretty wary of people getting close to them in public situations, no matter how much security there is.
•Would it be described as racist if Catherine flinched away from a white woman in similar circumstances? No.
• Are there many instances of Catherine not flinching away from black women? Yes.

But the word wasn't a slur when the picture was painted. In fact it wasn't a slur in living memory. Both Dr. King and Malcolm X used it.
What would you want the Cambridges to do? Destroy a beautiful painting because you are offended by it?

Oh, antelopevalley, I can’t believe you of all people have clearly forgotten the definitive proof offered on these boards that Charles is racist! When he and William went out to greet the people standing in the queue to pay their respects to QEII Charles was spoken to by his aide, and turned his body towards him, at the exact same time a black man was reaching out to shake his hand. So there you go - he’s a racist too.

Cherry picking, as people on this thread are doing, is frowned on as proof of anything because it suppresses all the evidence that goes against the central proposition. In other words, it’s logically unsound. In these cases, as many have pointed out, the hundreds of interactions members of the royal family have each year with people of colour where they treat them as warmly and respectfully as every white person they meet are utterly ignored, as are any potentially awkward moments in their interactions with any other person. It signifies nothing.

It also doesn’t surprise me that it’s the tactic being used by these posters, as they are all of them illogical in their approach. I remember clearly the fury that anyone could reasonably take a snippet of Meghan talking to William’s Director of Communications as they spoke to the crowds laying flowers outside Windsor as evidence that she was annoyed at being bothered by a staff member. But here, snippets are proof positive of the far more serious charge of racism. Intellectual dishonesty at its finest.

@Serenster
Take a break from trying to patronise posters - there's plenty of evidence re the 'royals' being racist . Why this surprises anyone is beyond me - it's baked in to the whole ridiculous carapace .

But you want evidence ? Here's evidence of deliberate planning to ensure the royals not only can never be acccused of racism , when do discriminate it is not illegal for them to do so . Very thorough thought process involved there . Not only can they ignore equality legislation but it is not illegal for them to do so

'The most controversial exemptions ban the Queen’s employees from pursuing sexual and racial discrimination complaints. Even the most modern piece of anti-discrimination law, the Equality Act 2010, is designed not to protect those employed by the Queen.

amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/14/queen-immunity-british-laws-private-property

@Serenster I have not seen you recognise any racism by any Royal Family members except Harry. In spite of many examples.

The Guardian has been somewhat misleading with this investigation.

The monarch cannot be litigated against at all. Can't get a parking ticket, can't be jailed for murder.

It's inaccurate to suggest that the royal household specifically wanted to be excused from the Equality Act, when that is actually just part of the whole principle of non-binding legislation.

And yes, the principle itself is questionable, albeit not dissimilar to the rules that apply to diplomats etc.

@OverMyJeans

It is exactly that principle that is being questioned

If you read the article the royals were well aware of the optics of excluding themselves from Equality law and had a carefully worded clause added

Charles like to witter about modernising .

He could start with this

And I do think it entirely accurate to link the royals to diplomatic immunity

Diplomatic immunity is codified by tbe Vienna Convention.
Nothing about the royals is codified

Diplomatic immunity is not life long

That should be
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