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Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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SmileyFaces12 · 13/07/2022 10:49

It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

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ShamedBySiri · 15/07/2022 23:40

Can't say I learnt anything new from the first but I enjoyed the inside story of the Vanity Fair cover.

The inside story of Meghan and the Vanity Fair affair.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ef49dbe8-0446-11ed-a4ba-b61f33f3c1cb?shareToken=90f29c2dee79bb97320903d44ab82a322_

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 16/07/2022 00:35

LondonWolf · 14/07/2022 18:07

Also wasn't he a barrister too? So presumably knows legally what he can get away with.

The publisher’s lawyers and fact checkers will have been through it with a fine tooth comb multiple times.

Im a fan of Tom Bower. This might be the most reliable account we ever get of whatever went on.

I wish someone would write a big thumping popular politics tome on the implications of our constitution being tied up with the cast of eejits. Meanwhile, Mr Bower’s book will do very nicely.

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 08:38

ObjectiveMummy · 15/07/2022 22:12

TBH, I started reading excerpts and sounds like Bower’s book is driven by the accounts of bitter white men - unfortunately including the Duchess’ own excuse of a father.

So I thought, who is this author:
white British male, married to an ex-editor of a London right-wing tabloid, dabbled in Marxism in his youth. Same ole’.

Another greedy white male looking to profit off the (biracial) woman he clearly looks down on (and thinks has no place being a Princess of the United Kingdom), and hell bent on destroying for profit. He has clearly been fed by the same “Palace Sources”.

A pass for me.

Wow, someone linked the excerpts from Archive. Bower does not hide his bigoted contempt. He even has woman of colour in quotation marks. Then goes in a disparaging way about MM fight for racial equality.

He seems hell bent on targeting her in particular, singling her out on everything he views as negative, even in joint decisions. At some point he says, Meghan's lawyer , referring to a case for Harry, when he should say, the Sussex lawyer.

As usual he makes a lot of unproven assertions, that are clearly just his opinions.

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 08:42

ShamedBySiri · 15/07/2022 23:40

Can't say I learnt anything new from the first but I enjoyed the inside story of the Vanity Fair cover.

The inside story of Meghan and the Vanity Fair affair.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ef49dbe8-0446-11ed-a4ba-b61f33f3c1cb?shareToken=90f29c2dee79bb97320903d44ab82a322_

This book reminds me of Lady C book. Full of lies from the start.

Here is the guy he is talking about in that Vanity Fare section. I wonder what he has to say now.

twitter.com/TvKhaleesi/status/1083742796245278720

I am also surprised by the blatant lies where he states that MM did not do charity work before Harry, when the internet is littered with pictures, k videos and interviews from people showing her doing the work.

I believe he called her a Brazen Hussy, like Bower is a Brazen Liar !

Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 08:44

Bower also seems to have more lawsuits than bestsellers. I wonder if he will just let the times take the hit this time too. If the DM also serialised this, I can't see H&M letting them go.

Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
RockinHorseShit · 16/07/2022 08:47

Urgh, how to announce you're the worst kind of human. Have a word with yourself 🤢

MaulPerton · 16/07/2022 08:47

TreePoser · 15/07/2022 11:49

Who'd buy them!? within minutes of publication the revelations will be being discussed on line.

Bower's books sell very well. He's excellent on his subject and definitely a cut above most others in this category.

Abridged syndications of the content will only whet the appetite to read the whole thing in its entirety. It will most likely go straight to bestseller.

Serenster · 16/07/2022 08:59

You’ve got an awful lot of opinions there about a book you’ve not read, notanotheroneagain. Amusing coming from someone who’s always been so very critical of Victoria Arbiter. 😉

As for the pictures of Meghan you posted, surely they rather underscore the Graydon Carter sentiment quoted in the book - “Hollywood philanthropy is PR philanthropy”

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 09:04

I just said I read the excepts from Archive and went on to quote them, just like the previous poster linked and commented on what she read. What are you on about. Victoria Arbiter reviewed an interview that she never saw, was not yet aired.

MaulPerton · 16/07/2022 09:16

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 08:44

Bower also seems to have more lawsuits than bestsellers. I wonder if he will just let the times take the hit this time too. If the DM also serialised this, I can't see H&M letting them go.

The DM has started to do this, albeit very tamely. There are two brief articles today. Both are somewhat benign. However, Bower is an expert in building up the account of his subject through in-depth writing. It may be that other publications will serialise the fuller picture. Will H & M go after them all, I wonder?

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 09:21

I don't know if it's because of the wide viewership, or the owners involvement with the RF, or just an opportunity with legal loopholes, but H&M do seem way less than tolerant with the DM than other publications and panelists.

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 09:26

Incidentally, in his haste to make MM look bad, Bower is instead making others look bad.
The RRs seem to have to jump to stating their doubts when Bower portrays the queen as a petty, vindictive, mean spirited person who concerns herself with a pregnant woman all the way across the sea, when her mind should probably be on her husband of over 70yrs.

Strangely enough, the queen was in a bubble during the funeral which limits the number of suspects who would have leaked, if true. Maybe the same people Harry was concerned were not right to surround the queen?
Either way, it makes her look bad.

PeekAtYou · 16/07/2022 09:36

I thought the book was going to be a biography but I'm guessing that there wasn't enough drama in M's life pre meeting Harry and he's uncovered dirt on everyone eg Queen allegedly saying that he's grateful M isn't attending the funeral.

Serenster · 16/07/2022 09:38

Bower portrays the queen as a petty, vindictive, mean spirited person who concerns herself with a pregnant woman all the way across the sea, when her mind should probably be on her husband of over 70yrs.

Sorry, just checking what you mean here - the Queen is petty, vindictive and mean spirited for (allegedly) expressing her opinion that she was relieved that the grand-daughter in law who just one month earlier had given an international interview with Oprah Winfrey in which she had made numerous accusations against the Queen’s family and institution, wasn’t attending Prince Phillip’s funeral?

That sounds like an entirely understandable reaction to me - who in the Queen’s shoes would want that drama on such a fraught occasion? But by all means make the Queen out to be the one at fault here if you like.

P205 · 16/07/2022 09:43

Ok, I did read The Times excerpt and I was right; it was so boring!

I'm not a fan of Meghan and Harry's but it's just weaving a story around small facts. Sorry, but it does seem a lot of made-up bollocks to me.

For example, I did notice that Harry was tapping his program against his leg at Phillip's funeral, but I thought he just looked nervous rather than impatient to get back to the US to stick the knife into his family. His wife was heavily pregnant, there was covid everywhere. It was hardly surprising that he returned straight back to the US soon after the funeral. I suspect if he had stayed longer in the UK, he would have been criticised for that too.

Let us know what you think when you read the book though, OP. It just seems a snoozefest to me, I'm afraid.

I would love to know the real dirt behind the family though. The stuff that is never revealed. The fights, the affairs, the scandals. It will never get published though.

MaulPerton · 16/07/2022 09:49

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 09:26

Incidentally, in his haste to make MM look bad, Bower is instead making others look bad.
The RRs seem to have to jump to stating their doubts when Bower portrays the queen as a petty, vindictive, mean spirited person who concerns herself with a pregnant woman all the way across the sea, when her mind should probably be on her husband of over 70yrs.

Strangely enough, the queen was in a bubble during the funeral which limits the number of suspects who would have leaked, if true. Maybe the same people Harry was concerned were not right to surround the queen?
Either way, it makes her look bad.

It will certainly be interesting to see how this plays out. I don't think there will be many explosive revelations but, instead, the account will be a confirmation of what we already know - that Meghan is not only as self-serving as the rest of them but even more so given that she is not prepared to give even a small percentage of herself to serving others such as opening a dull care home, that in her greed, she overstretched on her and H's talents and came crashing down, and that she and H will be further sidelined into obscurity/laughing stock territory as the royal ship sails on.

P205 · 16/07/2022 09:50

Like this: “Thank goodness Meghan is not coming,” the monarch said in a clear voice to her trusted aides. Buckingham Palace declined to comment last night.

It could mean anything. It could mean the Queen was worried about Meghan travelling while pregnant. It's just totally out of context.

Like I said, I'm not a fan of Meghan and Harry's but the book just seems nasty and unnecessary to me.

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 09:52

@MaulPerton

😂

Where did you get your info?
From Tom Bower ?

😂😂😂

MaulPerton · 16/07/2022 11:04

notanotheroneagain · 16/07/2022 09:52

@MaulPerton

😂

Where did you get your info?
From Tom Bower ?

😂😂😂

😀

People-watching. It's an old, old story.

NotsoTeflonBoris · 16/07/2022 11:45

But surely Tom Bower will be waiting to be sued by Megan and Harry if any of the content is out of kilt to their views ?

MaulPerton · 16/07/2022 12:06

NotsoTeflonBoris · 16/07/2022 11:45

But surely Tom Bower will be waiting to be sued by Megan and Harry if any of the content is out of kilt to their views ?

It is, indeed, an interesting position that they, and Bower, find themselves in. Shades of the bullying report. If they say nothing, they leave the content on the table, to chip away at their 'reputation'. The alternative is to spend the rest of their life engaged in lawsuits. I suspect that Bower, just like the Palace, took this into account.

BadgerB · 16/07/2022 12:10

notanotheroneagain

It seems you're way, way over invested in this? I find it difficult to understand how anyone can think M is a kind and charitable person, without turning mental somersaults. And yes, I've never met her; but I suspect neither have you...

LondonWolf · 16/07/2022 12:29

Samcro · 15/07/2022 09:57

does anyone spend good money on these books?

Only £6.66 on kindle last time I looked...

MissMarpleRocks · 16/07/2022 12:47

I’m certain knowing how litigious the Sussexes are the publisher’s lawyers will have been through the book with a fine tooth comb.

FlorianImogen · 16/07/2022 12:48

P205 · 14/07/2022 13:46

I feel like there are thousands of people in the world who are much more interesting than these two and the royal family. Why on earth would anyone read a book about this? I don't get it.

My thoughts exactly. It'll all be written
in the gutter press anyway!

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