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Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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SmileyFaces12 · 13/07/2022 10:49

It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

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HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 22/07/2022 20:07

Gilmorehill · 22/07/2022 19:55

I totally agree Samcro. I can think of a few apparently devoted parents whose adult children aren’t speaking to them at the moment. It’s sad but I would never assume who is right or wrong. Yet so many people on MN cast TM as a villain. Who knows the truth?
I still find it very odd that she had an apparently good enough relationship with him to give her away but he hadn’t met Harry. Also, given how detail focussed she is, surely she’d want to be picking his clothes for the day?! How was that going to happen when he was in Mexico?

It says she sent him to an LA tailor to be measured and the clothes had been made in London from those measurements. Not a lot of face to face contact between them, though, no.

Gilmorehill · 22/07/2022 20:12

That is still very odd though. You’d want to try on tailor made clothes with enough time to alter them but he was still in Mexico 3/4 days before the wedding. You’d almost think she expected him to drop out.

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 22/07/2022 20:13

Thomas Markle seemed to be a decent enough parent when M was growing up and paid for her to be privately educated but the book indicates that there was already a strain on the relationship before she met H. I think he's behaved abysmally giving all the interviews. I also think he could have been looked after better before the wedding. There are rights and wrongs on both sides. It's such a mess.

Roussette · 22/07/2022 20:24

derxa · 22/07/2022 19:53

According to you the only thing that Meghan has done wrong in her life is doing the Oprah interview so any discussion about this will go nowhere @Roussette

Yeah. Nailed it in one

Ohnonevermind · 22/07/2022 20:33

It was interesting that MM was furious with her dad for doing the lighting at a show when she wasn’t allowed a part (she had to choose between a camp and the production). She moved out for a few weeks with her mother as she was furious with him for not siding with her.

The book is peppered with similar anecdotes by other people, and her need to control everything has caused a lot of problems for a lot of people including her.

It also shows her ruthlessness to be ‘someone’

Harry has placed her on a pedestal, which often happens when a fairly stupid man has a much smarter wife.

He knew he had 10 years as a major royal and then he’d be surplus to requirements so trusted her to plot a new fabulous role for them both.

I’ve not gotten any further yet.

Roussette · 22/07/2022 20:40

The book is peppered with similar anecdotes by other people

The Book. OK. Hmm

I think you're a bit too engaged with 'the book'

MarshaMelrose · 22/07/2022 21:07

I think you're a bit too engaged with 'the book'.

Isn't that the point of the thread? 🤔

HeddaGarbled · 22/07/2022 21:12

You do have to read it with a degree of scepticism. Bower narrates the growing estrangement between Meghan and her father but does seem to skate over her father’s role in it. For example, allegedly, he criticised the first episode of Suits, especially the lighting (!) but Bower brushes over that in a few words as if it was something hardly worth mentioning.

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 21:30

Roussette · 22/07/2022 20:40

The book is peppered with similar anecdotes by other people

The Book. OK. Hmm

I think you're a bit too engaged with 'the book'

You put the capital "B" for Book there Rousette. The original post only has a small "b". Why did you do that?

Ohnonevermind · 22/07/2022 21:34

@Roussette

I’m discussing the book on a thread about the book, surely that’s the whole point 🤣🤣🤣.
I fail to understand how that makes me ‘too engaged’

Roussette · 22/07/2022 21:34

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 21:30

You put the capital "B" for Book there Rousette. The original post only has a small "b". Why did you do that?

Absolutely no reason?
Should there be?
Confused

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 21:45

Absolutely no reason?
Should there be?

Well you changed what the poster actually wrote, seemingly to ascribe some meaning to their post that wasn't there. I just wanted to point it out in case others missed it, and ask you what you were trying to do by doing that? That poster didn't call it "The Book", as though they perceive it to be some kind of important, impeccable source, which is what you seem to be implying.

Roussette · 22/07/2022 21:49

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 21:45

Absolutely no reason?
Should there be?

Well you changed what the poster actually wrote, seemingly to ascribe some meaning to their post that wasn't there. I just wanted to point it out in case others missed it, and ask you what you were trying to do by doing that? That poster didn't call it "The Book", as though they perceive it to be some kind of important, impeccable source, which is what you seem to be implying.

Oh gawd.... I meant nothing by a capital 'B'. Implying absolutely nothing.

Seems a bit petty to imply otherwise but there you go!

Ohnonevermind · 22/07/2022 21:51

@Roussette

i think the petty poster is the one on here telling me I’m too engaged about a book on a thread about the book 🤣

Roussette · 22/07/2022 21:53

Ohnonevermind · 22/07/2022 21:51

@Roussette

i think the petty poster is the one on here telling me I’m too engaged about a book on a thread about the book 🤣

Whatever you like to take from it, suits me!

I'm in trouble for using a capital letter!

Gilmorehill · 22/07/2022 21:55

Unfortunately parents aren’t always nice. My first job out of uni was teaching English as a foreign language to children. My dad told me I was damaging the children. I managed to resist cutting him off.

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 22:01

* "The Book. OK* Hmm"

So you changed it to this and said OK with the little Hmm emoji and it wasn't meant to imply anything at all? That's good to know because it looked like you were trying to change what the poster actually said so you could react to that in a sneery way. Glad that's not the case though given how much you claim to like the truth, certainly when discussing H&M's motives Smile

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/07/2022 22:02

I still find it very odd that she had an apparently good enough relationship with him to give her away but he hadn’t met Harry

TBH I wouldn't want to assume she ever intended Thomas to give her away - or to meet Harry before the marriage was done and dusted, come to that

Ohnonevermind · 22/07/2022 22:04

Thomas talking about 2 Meghan’s (sweetness when Harry is about and cold when not ) is referring to the phone calls between him and the couple when the press were camped outside his house, and the changes when Harry is in the room with her and when he is not.

Roussette · 22/07/2022 22:23

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 22:01

* "The Book. OK* Hmm"

So you changed it to this and said OK with the little Hmm emoji and it wasn't meant to imply anything at all? That's good to know because it looked like you were trying to change what the poster actually said so you could react to that in a sneery way. Glad that's not the case though given how much you claim to like the truth, certainly when discussing H&M's motives Smile

I have no idea whatsoever what you're on about.

I put a capital B instead of a lower case b on a post about a book and you are sounding a bit deranged about it.

It's really weird for you to pick up on this and it's totally beyond me.

Book book book Book. It means nothing! I'm perplexed by what you're reading into this!

I meant NOTHING!

Take from it what you want, I don't care!

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 22:31

I'm in trouble for using a capital letter!

No, here's that disingenuousness yet again. You're sneering at other posters for attaching importance to this discussion and even changing what they post in order to criticise them, yet you are amongst, even possibly, the most prolific and hardline poster on these threads 😁

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 22:32

Take from it what you want, I don't care!

I will do. And I think you do care actually 😁

But as ever, I am happy to agree to disagree.

Gilmorehill · 22/07/2022 22:33

Well said. It’s boring. I wish I had the free time to be so dedicated to my pet passions.

LaMarschallin · 22/07/2022 22:33

Roussette · 22/07/2022 22:23

I have no idea whatsoever what you're on about.

I put a capital B instead of a lower case b on a post about a book and you are sounding a bit deranged about it.

It's really weird for you to pick up on this and it's totally beyond me.

Book book book Book. It means nothing! I'm perplexed by what you're reading into this!

I meant NOTHING!

Take from it what you want, I don't care!

I think the trouble is, Roussette, that there are so many hints and insinuations on these threads that it's very easy to wonder why something's been changed.
I once missed an emoji off a quote and, while I didn't think it made a huge difference, the poster quite rightly pointed out that it made it seem less humorous.

In the forests of "Just sayin'..."s and "Hmm, they did that to X not Y. Wonder why..."s etc any change can look deliberate and make people wonder, I suppose.
And I'm never totally sure what Hmm means.

Roussette · 22/07/2022 22:35

LondonWolf · 22/07/2022 22:31

I'm in trouble for using a capital letter!

No, here's that disingenuousness yet again. You're sneering at other posters for attaching importance to this discussion and even changing what they post in order to criticise them, yet you are amongst, even possibly, the most prolific and hardline poster on these threads 😁

Enjoy your weekend 🌝

I'll never call a book, a Book again that's for sure!

What a can of worms. Using a B has made me disingenuous, prolific and hardline. Who'd have thought...

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