Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

Interesting point. Do you have examples?

This is exactly the conclusion I have come to. It seems like it’s a posh reality tv show that they have carved out for themselves.
How is this freedom? I often wonder why they wouldn’t or couldn’t do a Julia Roberts - remember when at the height of her fame she just slipped off to live a quiet and private family life in the countryside. That’s the type of thing I thought they were after, but this reality tv “docuseries” for 100mm? I’m sorry to say I think they have sold their souls for Netflix gold.

I read the opening of Bowers' book on preview. Doesn't paint a great picture of Doris's parenting. Also makes me see how as a child of parents with little in common how Meghan possibly learned to present herself differently in different contexts and evolve a pragmatic relationship with the truth.

Aww, I don't like it when books go after parents and children to illustrate points about the subject unless it's positive. I haven't seen anything to suggest that Doria has traded off her relationship with MM since her marriage so I think she should be left alone with her privacy. No one can truly know what goes on in a family except the members and not always even then - if my sister's and my mismatched remembrances are anything to go by! 😁

Examples of what?

To be fair that was my extrapolation about Meghan after skimming the description of her parents' poor relationship.

I have got the book on Kindle so will see if it has anything new to offer.
It has always appeared to me that Meghan has as dysfunctional a background as Harry, probably much more so. She may be presenting a view of his family to him based on her own unresolved issues and trauma. They are clinging together and reinforcing each other's sense of having been let down and wronged. It's not a healthy dynamic.

How have they been an asset to the UK since leaving the UK?

I was agreeing with you although obviously too obliquely. An examination of RF murky finances should exclude some members according to some posters, namely H & M...

No probs

I absolutely agree royal finances of any ilk should be under the spotlight especially as more and more emerges about how they've been conducted in the past.

I’ve read part of the book so far as couldn’t sleep last night for a couple of hours. Not impressed so far. It’s not well written and full of stuff we mostly know already. It does give a clear sense though that Doria wasn’t a great mother and Thomas spoilt her. She became very controlling as a result , according to the book. It does make a convincing case. I just wish it was better written and had more new information. The author has clearly spoken to Thomas and Samantha.

One thing which is interesting is that Doria and Thomas had the same age gap as Charles and Diana .Doria clearly immature and not ready for parenthood.

I really really struggle to understand what joy can be had from living their lives like this

Ditto

For all I know they may be happy, and as with anyone else I hope they are - but their behaviour doesn't say "happiness" to me

So Doria smoked weed after working 18 hour shifts, bit disappointed in these bOmBsHeLls 😐

It’s getting better now actually.

So ……M did make Kate cry !

We've been told M made Kate cry a thousand times, next!

Even after Kate sent a note and flowers, which palace sources have claimed was an attempt to smooth things over.

I want bombshells 😏

The point is that M told OW in the interview that it was Kate who made her cry !

The extract I have seen that did make my eyebrows rise was that Meghan and Harry made their announcement about Archie’s birth being treated as a private matter, with no notifications to the Press, not because they actually wanted it to be private, but because they were secretly brokering a deal with Oprah and Gayle King for an exclusive “Our First Year” documentary with CBS, including giving CBS exclusive access to the Queen’s first meeting with Archie

When Meghan discussed this with Oprah in her interview, she said that the wish for the birth to be private was because she wasn’t going to serve her son up on a silver platter when the Palace weren’t giving him a title or security. If Oprah and Meghan did indeed both know the negotiations that had been going on behind the scenes at the time, that’s an interesting take.

I wonder if anyone asked the Queen if she wanted a private family moment sold like that? I also wonder if that had anything to do with her alleged refusal to have the Sussexes’ photographer shoot her meeting with Lilibet?

(I found this particularly interesting because the shenanigans around Archie’s birth and what the Sussexes eventually agreed to tell the press - and then didn’t - was the tipping point for me. I started to realise that despite my desire to keep thinking the best of them, I just couldn’t rationalise it against their behaviours. I assumed there was a big old battle for control of the press narrative going on behind the scenes. The suggestion that actually it may actually have been because they wanted the exclusive for an American broadcaster - and what would have been the quid pro quo for that, we wonder? - is really interesting)

Here the extracts I referred to above, by the way.

surely their baby their choice, what has the queen got to do with it?

Someone tag me where H&M are exposed for hiring child actors to play Archie and Lili because reborn dolls etc

Doria's jail sentence too.

Oh and when proof is released that they're embezzling Archewell's charity funds for their own use.

That's what the derangers promised was coming from Bower's book.

Thank you.

Right.

surely their baby their choice, what has the queen got to do with it?

Erm, her image rights, her choice. Her personal life, her choice as to whether its released for public consumption…?

That's what the derangers promised was coming from Bower's book.

There’s a whole cottage industry of stupid out there, that’s certainly true. I’m more interested in what the book actually contains, rather than what various internet communities are hoping for.

Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking knew all those were utter nonsense and therefore wouldn't be in this book. Let's not try to imply that some of the really intelligent and well informed posters on this thread belong in that bracket.