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Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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SmileyFaces12 · 13/07/2022 10:49

It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

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KatharineofAragon · 19/07/2022 09:07

Roussette · 19/07/2022 09:02

You obviously haven't read her book where she trashes the 'institution'.

She shuts up now. She has no choice. Because without us as a meal ticket, enabling her to live in luxurious splendour on a 98 acre estate, she'd probably be bankrupt knowing her spending.

Is that any better than making your living from rubbishing your husbands family and trading on your titles ?

Roussette · 19/07/2022 09:10

Johnson and Truss directly invited comments from Russia regarding the bombing of UK in the event of further escalation of conflict in Ukraine. The royals didn't. I take that as a win for the royals, and thank them for helping keep the country out of an international incident despite Johnson’s and Truss's best/worst efforts

What? So... because the RF didn't make a political statement (they never have), they are saving us from being bombed? Is that what you're saying?

You are thanking them for doing what they've always done, i.e. not make a political statement, which means they have saved us from being bombed. Have I honestly got that right 🤣😂

I am beginning to think this is a parody post!

I agree with the national identity. We're brainwashed into it.

Roussette · 19/07/2022 09:12

KatharineofAragon · 19/07/2022 09:07

Is that any better than making your living from rubbishing your husbands family and trading on your titles ?

SF trades on her titles and has done for 25 years. Despite being divorced.

Books... "Dining with the Duchess"
"Dieting with the Duchess"

Not a joke. Imagine if MM brought out a book entitled similar? I think a few posters on here would probably implode!

LaMarschallin · 19/07/2022 09:14

Ohnonevermind · 19/07/2022 09:03

@LaMarschallin

He’s a man of few words (literally)

Grin

See, I was thinking that because he got called "cheeky" such a lot in his youth, that he was using the word - consciously or not - to emphasise the especially close link between himself and his mother that he perceives on this occasion.
But you may have a point.

Nishky32 · 19/07/2022 09:28

I read on Twitter that the book has the ‘back story’ of Meghan’s mother.

I really hope that is not true.

MaulPerton · 19/07/2022 09:35

What? So... because the RF didn't make a political statement (they never have), they are saving us from being bombed? Is that what you're saying?

You are thanking them for doing what they've always done, i.e. not make a political statement, which means they have saved us from being bombed. Have I honestly got that right 🤣😂

Not saying something is a political statement in itself. The ministers and royals were not singing from the same hymn sheet, meaning that, to the global audience watching, there was no unilateral will or consensus from the two leadership institutions about involving the country in the Ukraine conflict. For many, it's probably the first time that they have witnessed how a constitutional monarchy works in practice, to good effect.

I thank any leader who keeps countries out of wars.

derxa · 19/07/2022 09:36

Roussette · 19/07/2022 09:12

SF trades on her titles and has done for 25 years. Despite being divorced.

Books... "Dining with the Duchess"
"Dieting with the Duchess"

Not a joke. Imagine if MM brought out a book entitled similar? I think a few posters on here would probably implode!

I'd prefer it if she did do that rather than make accusations of racism against the RF.

Samcro · 19/07/2022 09:39

I'd prefer it if she did do that rather than make accusations of racism against the RF
oh yes no one should call a racist act racist.

derxa · 19/07/2022 09:46

Samcro · 19/07/2022 09:39

I'd prefer it if she did do that rather than make accusations of racism against the RF
oh yes no one should call a racist act racist.

Meghan and Harry couldn't even get their stories straight. Then they cast suspicion over the whole RF apart from the Queen and Prince Philip. So instead of confronting the person who made the racist remarks directly they went on Oprah to do it. Anyway this is old ground and we'll never agree.

Ohnonevermind · 19/07/2022 09:49

@Samcro

Perhaps Harry will detail these accusations in his book so we can understand what was said, by who, and perhaps the unnamed accused will have a chance to respond.

Perhaps Tom Bower has the details in his new book, but I wonder what really happened, as evidence shows both Meghan and Harry are prone to twisting things to suit ‘their truth’

KatharineofAragon · 19/07/2022 09:55

derxa · 19/07/2022 09:46

Meghan and Harry couldn't even get their stories straight. Then they cast suspicion over the whole RF apart from the Queen and Prince Philip. So instead of confronting the person who made the racist remarks directly they went on Oprah to do it. Anyway this is old ground and we'll never agree.

That’s a good point actually. They didn’t have the guts to speak to the family member directly. Maybe because they wouldn’t make money and garner sympathy from the public if they handled things like mature adults?

Ohnonevermind · 19/07/2022 10:03

Perhaps the royal family are as much in the dark over who said what. I don’t recall Harry ‘challenging’ the racist comments or Meghan. They might welcome the opportunity to see who apparently said what.

As Tom Bowyer said, the Sussex’s were determined to take offence and Meghan was waiting for a trigger to head back to the states.

Roussette · 19/07/2022 10:12

MaulPerton · 19/07/2022 09:35

What? So... because the RF didn't make a political statement (they never have), they are saving us from being bombed? Is that what you're saying?

You are thanking them for doing what they've always done, i.e. not make a political statement, which means they have saved us from being bombed. Have I honestly got that right 🤣😂

Not saying something is a political statement in itself. The ministers and royals were not singing from the same hymn sheet, meaning that, to the global audience watching, there was no unilateral will or consensus from the two leadership institutions about involving the country in the Ukraine conflict. For many, it's probably the first time that they have witnessed how a constitutional monarchy works in practice, to good effect.

I thank any leader who keeps countries out of wars.

No it is not a political statement in itself when they have never ever ever made political statements. How can you not get that.

It's beyond me why you think they've 'saved us'.

CathyorClaire · 19/07/2022 10:23

Maybe ask William the same, and even Prince George who shoots too. We pay for them after all

I'd love to see the royals drop their revolting blood sports and apologise for the atrocities they have and still commit. Even better if the stopped indoctrinating the next generation while they're still to young to know better but that applies to all of them across the board.

I find the endless criticism of Harry hilarious, when posters don't even look close to home and what the RF do.

Ah, c'mon, R. You know I do my research Wink

Roussette · 19/07/2022 10:36

Ah, c'mon, R. You know I do my research

I know you do lovely Grin

CathyorClaire · 19/07/2022 10:36

This says it all !

twitter.com/roxannereaction/status/1549117684255789062?s=21&t=XpDgeSc9WIZ3CSgP-0UeoQ

That's an interesting clip especially coming so soon after the one at the polo match where she's inexplicably up on stage for the presentation and he appears less than charmed.

MaulPerton · 19/07/2022 10:47

Roussette · 19/07/2022 10:12

No it is not a political statement in itself when they have never ever ever made political statements. How can you not get that.

It's beyond me why you think they've 'saved us'.

Because, in this instance, the system acted as a brake mechanism to war. To the outside world, and to Russia, the optics of the perceived dissent may have diffused tensions.

No it is not a political statement in itself

Keeping silent is a political statement (small 'p') because it conveys a judgement. In this instance, the system worked in our favour and worked well - a stopping mechanism to hot-headed warmongering.

Of course, the system may not work quite so well in other instances Charles and his Middle East oil friends, which is why my view of the RF is always provisional.

Roussette · 19/07/2022 10:57

Keeping silent is a political statement (small 'p') because it conveys a judgement.

They keep silent on everything so must be making political statements all over the place.

How you can honestly honestly think the RF 'stopped us being bombed' is beyond me. Sorry.

BadgerB · 19/07/2022 11:07

darmaka · Today 07:24
They are popular and when they were here the RF made lots of money. However clearly they were too popular for HM and W+K who felt overshadowed.

You really think that those two, the dim prince & the would-be A lister, could overshadow the Queen?

InTheShadeOfTheFigTree · 19/07/2022 11:15

MaulPerton · 19/07/2022 00:07

They siphon off plenty but then we know that already. Instead of being perpetually surprised at how self-serving the RF are, can we not move the conversation on by having that as a starting point?

The British royals are a huge global brand and one of the institutions that keeps the UK going, whatever our personal feelings on the matter.

How exactly do they keep us going? Has France stopped because it doesn't have a monarchy

notanotheroneagain · 19/07/2022 11:17

@FlorianImogen you are linking a doctored video done by a bottom feeding hate site and bringing that nonsense on here. Mumsnet has indeed sunk low if anyone is believe the trash you just linked.

InTheShadeOfTheFigTree · 19/07/2022 11:20

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 18/07/2022 22:36

TBF, it’s a book, not a newspaper article so confirming things is as legitimate as breaking fresh stories. There has been so much counterclaim and obfuscation, it’s quite useful to have someone of zBower’s reputation cover the same ground.

Tom Bower? The one whose book about Corbyn was serialised in the Mail? The Mail were then sued, lost and had to pay damages and costs. Parts of the book then had to be removed in all future publications. That Tom Bower?

notanotheroneagain · 19/07/2022 11:27

Readinginthesun · 19/07/2022 08:16

@Roussette why do you always drag SF into a discussion about H and M ? Unlike H and M , she has never said she doesn’t want to be part of the RF .

Why do you always drag their tiles into it.

Harry is PC son, HMQ grandchild. A prince. A Duke. that is that.
They left the job, not the family. They are still royals. The same way HRHs Princess Eugenie and Beatrice and others are still royals and part of the family, just now working.
Were you forced to give up your name just because you went to work outside your family ?

SF, meanwhile is divorced. Left the marriage. She still literally benefits from the royals (via Andrew who doesn't have an independent job), as well as via his links directly eg. Epstein.

MaulPerton · 19/07/2022 11:29

InTheShadeOfTheFigTree · 19/07/2022 11:15

How exactly do they keep us going? Has France stopped because it doesn't have a monarchy

They are a unique identifier of UK plc that may contribute to UK's place in the world on a variety of metrics. However, there's only one way to find out if this is really the case - abolish. Are we willing to take the leap?

Happy to be convinced either way.

notanotheroneagain · 19/07/2022 11:30

Readinginthesun · 19/07/2022 08:25

I have read her book and I saw her OW clips as someone posted them on a previous thread . NOTHING as vitriolic as H and M statements!!

Erm, because she never experienced racism?

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