Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

It feels like a #MeToo moment.

He owes it to his family and his country not to trash everything publicly that he was brought up to support. Whatever his private views may be, he could have chosen to behave very differently. He’s entitled to a private life and to leave if that’s what he wants. Public humiliating his family and rubbishing them all on TV is pretty low. It brings his country and the RF itself into disrepute.

He is trying to undermine them at every turn . It just looks vindictive and petty.

Help the UK do what exactly?

Survive, not get bombed, not send our children to war, sell things, foster cordial relations with other countries, improve quality of life for people. They may not do it very well but they may do it well enough - for now. It's up to us to decide.

They are popular and when they were here the RF made lots of money. However clearly they were too popular for HM and W+K who felt overshadowed

No-one cares why they left but that they left with a full suitcase. The leaving should have entailed no titles (decent sorts would have offered to relinquish them), no funding and no public links to the institution.

Even if he left why criticise him constantly - he is living his life the way he wants to. He doesn't owe the UK anything

Please see above.

Tom Bower was on Piers Morgan's show begging for a lawsuit. I hope Harry and Meghan continue to pay him dust 😀

“If their importance is diminished, which I hope my book will do...

The Mandela foundation inviting Harry to speak really had them rattled. Not them hoping for the failure of second row royals they swear are irrelevant.

Anyway, it was lovely to see Meghan happy, carefree and unbothered yesterday.

God bless them.

Survive, not get bombed, not send our children to war, sell things, foster cordial relations with other countries, improve quality of life for people. They may not do it very well but they may do it well enough - for now

How on earth do the RF do that? How do they stop us getting bombed (not that we're about to be bombed anyway). How do they improve quality of life for people? (hint... they don't). The foster cordial relations, I'll give you that but in a very small amount. But the rest... really no.

The leaving should have entailed no titles (decent sorts would have offered to relinquish them), no funding and no public links to the institution

So do you think the member of the RF who is in exile and disgrace throughout the world should have funding, and a title? Because he does. As does his divorced for 5 years wife. Why should H&M be different to those two?

(They can't relinquish their titles, it needs an Act of Parliament to remove them. They can choose not to use them of course, but as SF has used hers relentlessly for 25 years, why shouldn't they? Unless it's one rule for her and PA and a different one for H&M?)

*Divorced for 25 years. Not 5

@Roussette why do you always drag SF into a discussion about H and M ? Unlike H and M , she has never said she doesn’t want to be part of the RF .

It wasn’t a great speech to be honest, ‘my mum met him once’ and I’ve a picture on my wall. seems a tenuous link and I brought my girlfriend to Africa on holidays and realised she was my ‘soulmate’ 🤣🤣

As the UN wasn’t in session hardly anyone was there to listen. More focus seems to be on what Meghan was wearing - clearly what the PR is pushing, as they’ve not got a lot of material to work with.

Nelson Mandela was a wonderful man and having this numpry give the ‘keynote address just cheapens the whole thing’

Maybe he just gets very nervous ahead of public speaking.

There is a lot of soothing/mothering in meghan's body language towards him.

He owes you nothing!
Nothing at all.
H+M were constantly - and still are, used and thrown under the bus to cover up other issues within the RF, which everyone seems to turn a blind eye on.
I would leave too. H cannot save the UK. Only the people in it can do that - not even the Q can save the UK.

You obviously know nothing about her book after she divorced laying into the institution of the RF. Her two Oprah interviews. It's out there... have a look.

I will drag her into the discussion because we pay for her to live in a 98 acre estate Royal Lodge, we pay for everything to do with her. And her ex. She obviously is not part of the RF and will say nothing now as we're her meal ticket.

H&M pay for themselves.

Yes yes yes to this. I have no idea why people can't see it. Harry, and now Meghan have been a convenient scapegoat for a long time. Whilst we're getting all worked up about them in the press, we are not looking at the RF.

Still... never mind... we'd be bombed if it wasn't for the Queen

I have read her book and I saw her OW clips as someone posted them on a previous thread . NOTHING as vitriolic as H and M statements!!

Because people think she's not the same as others in the RF she must be punished relentlessly until they break up and their poor prince returns home.

Nelson Mandela's family spoke to the press and said they invited Harry because of the bond they have as families. They also had a bond with his mother and showed him a picture of his mother with Mandela. He has worked with them in the past doing charity work etc.

H+M need to return to royal life or we'll be bombed and starve apparently! I've seen it all now.

I disagree. Although she attacked the institution more. At the time (we're talking 25 years ago) it was pretty awful because there wasn't the pushback from social media. She could say what she wanted with no recourse.

I expect you to disagree !!
Have a nice day !

The speech is on a par with the Bench.
Was there no one to help him write something better.

I’m surprised that none of the posters on here are following NBC’s lead questioning why the representative of a colonising superpower who denied South Africans a voice is giving the keynote address. If it was Prince William you’d be all over it - while he’s walked away all his power is derived from that institution 🤔

I can't believe there was not a better speaker than Harry to pay tribute to Mandela's enormous legacy. He was a giant of the 20th century, endured 27 years of incarceration and came out seeking reconciliation.
Harry has had holidays in 'Africa'. And his mum was 'cheeky'. A strangely infantilising word set against the might of Mandela.

And his mum was 'cheeky'

I thought that sounded a bit odd in that context.
He used the same word to describe the late duke of Edinburgh, who I would have thought to have a very different way of expressing humour from Diana.

She also speaks warmly about the RF unlike M. Even if her husband is a reptile.

You obviously haven't read her book where she trashes the 'institution'.

She shuts up now. She has no choice. Because without us as a meal ticket, enabling her to live in luxurious splendour on a 98 acre estate, she'd probably be bankrupt knowing her spending.

How do they stop us getting bombed (not that we're about to be bombed anyway)

Johnson and Truss directly invited comments from Russia regarding the bombing of UK in the event of further escalation of conflict in Ukraine. The royals didn't. I take that as a win for the royals, and thank them for helping keep the country out of an international incident despite Johnson’s and Truss's best/worst efforts.

How do they improve quality of life for people? (hint... they don't)

The brand encourages international trade links, contributes to UK's GDP, maintains peace and stability, offers an identity.

The foster cordial relations, I'll give you that but in a very small amount. But the rest... really no

They do.

@LaMarschallin

He’s a man of few words (literally)

I found the fact that he was celebrating the 4th of July odd. Basically celebrating America freeing itself from Britain and the monarchy. Obviously it’s a holiday there and they were having fun as a family, but the wider context seems to elude him.
At the same time he thinks it’s fine for him to preach to the US about its policies. He’s all mixed up. Why does he imagine anyone in the US gives a stuff about his title or wants to hear his views?