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Harry and Meghan 'are invited to appear on Buckingham Palace balcony at Queen's Platinum Jubilee'

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NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 19/04/2022 08:22

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10729859/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-invited-make-balcony-appearance-Jubilee.html

No source cited, so could just be made up news.

How do you all feel about this? Is it another refusing-to-fly-the-flag-at-half-mast-for-Diana misreading of the public mood? Does anybody actually care? And, if not, what does that signify?

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stayathomer · 20/04/2022 13:56

Do you ever think of them as real life humans and wonder about all the regrets they all must have. When we were growing up I remember my parents talking about the ridiculousness and drama of it all but every so often theyd say 'poor diana' or 'poor fergie'. Myself and my family drifted apart over covid and are just beginning to be normal again in chats etc, I wonder if the queen ever just thinks 'I just want them all to get along and have a nice family occasion!!!'

Swayingpalmtrees · 20/04/2022 14:08

Why are there so many posters who can not understand that the Jubilee is not a 'family' occasion at all! It is a state occasion, paid for by the British tax payer to acknowledge the long rein of the Queen.
In no capacity should Harry be there, he has resigned as RF member remember?? And wanted a 'private' life in the middle of California.

As a now non royal he should not be on the balcony or anywhere else of standing under any circumstances, and nor should Andrew. Yes if they are having a family gathering in the garden hosted by granny possibly, but there is a world of difference between state and personal occasions dee and mrs your understanding seems very limited as to how these things actually work in practice.

Public opinion is important to all members, after all we are footing the bill and allowing them to continue with reasonable expectations of decent behaviour and offering some value for their incredible and privileged positions. It is already damaged, seeing H&M and Andy will only damage them further.

Is anyone seriously suggesting that after the bile H&M produced on Oprah and calling their own family racists whilst Prince Philip was on his deathbed is something the Queen would approve of? What a ridiculous thing to suggest.

I did mention those of average or above intelligence emuloc so I was not referring to you, obviously, given your comments on here.

SpinningMeSoftly · 20/04/2022 14:30

I'd pay good money to know the tenor of the relationship between Harry and Uncle Noncey, and whether H&M would agree to appear on the balcony with him and why. Megan at least must know it'd look like utter hypocrisy to be seen associating with him in any way. As pp said ^^, she's not daft.

DeeCeeCherry · 20/04/2022 14:42

Swayingpalmtrees

It doesn't matter what you say.

Harry as the Queen's grandson and son of the next King, will be there.

The slither of tax you pay towards RF's upkeep makes no difference.

Neither will the multitude of Harry-bashing threads make one iota of difference. Spitting against the wind.

All these posts/threads..I'm convinced one day there'll be an 'I am the jilted ex-lover of Harry and I can't let it go' style reveal

Swayingpalmtrees · 20/04/2022 14:45

It is a state occasion dee Harry is no longer a working royal and has no place being there. I don't know why you fail each time to understand that simple fact.

I pay a HUGE amount of tax, so your assumption is somewhat misguided!

mathanxiety · 20/04/2022 18:54

@tinkerkitten, the Queen herself has devalued the brand by not kicking Andrew into the middle of next week the day the news broke (with plenty of evidence) about his association with Jeffrey Epstein.

This is all on her. Or perhaps she has people around her who are leading her astray.

Letting Andrew walk her up the aisle at the memorial service was shockingly poor judgement on the part of whoever made that decision. If it was PA who bulldozed his way in, you have to wonder why Charles or William were fast asleep at the wheel. If it was the Queen herself who insisted on having Andrew at her side, then she is no longer fit to occupy her position.

I suspect it is this decision that Harry was alluding to when he stated he wanted to make sure the Queen had the right people around her. He was hinting that this wasn't her decision and that PA is using his mother to rehab his own image.

mathanxiety · 20/04/2022 19:00

@swayingpalmtrees, Harry is not a 'non royal'.

He is still a prince, and still the Duke of Sussex. He still has a position in the line of succession.

He just doesn't spend his days doing grand openings of supermarkets in Basingstoke any more.

garlicandsapphires · 20/04/2022 19:27

Good! I like them. It’s always a good thing for families to heal and this may be the right time.

WinnieTheW0rm · 20/04/2022 19:35

He just doesn't spend his days doing grand openings of supermarkets in Basingstoke any more

One of the things I have really enjoyed about threads talking about the duller bits of royal duties is the ever changing list of (unexciting by worthy venue) in (really rather dullsville)

EdithWeston · 20/04/2022 19:44

"Letting Andrew walk her up the aisle at the memorial service was shockingly poor judgement on the part of whoever made that decision"

They didn't come up the aisle, they came in from the side. The other Royals did that. There has been at least one comment that there was meant to be no footage of the Queen until she was seated.

I don't think HM was making a point about Andrew, because it was meant to be private, and he was the only one not expected to process up the aisle

Iflyaway · 20/04/2022 19:46

I don't understand the MN hate towards Harry and Meghan at all.

I think they are amazing for following your own path in life, and for their kids to grow up in a future world which by that time the royals will be obsolete.

Meghan and Harry are cleverer than that whole bunch together. I love them.

SpinningMeSoftly · 20/04/2022 19:47

EdithWeston · 20/04/2022 19:44

"Letting Andrew walk her up the aisle at the memorial service was shockingly poor judgement on the part of whoever made that decision"

They didn't come up the aisle, they came in from the side. The other Royals did that. There has been at least one comment that there was meant to be no footage of the Queen until she was seated.

I don't think HM was making a point about Andrew, because it was meant to be private, and he was the only one not expected to process up the aisle

It was an absolute fiasco, one way or the other.

Chilledchablis1 · 20/04/2022 19:56

Iflyaway · 20/04/2022 19:46
“I don't understand the MN hate towards Harry and Meghan at all.”

I know I am beginning to sound like a broken record but I will say again - criticism does not equal hate . I don’t hate them but I do criticise much of their behaviour.

Gilmorehill · 20/04/2022 20:18

WinnieTheW0rm · 20/04/2022 19:35

He just doesn't spend his days doing grand openings of supermarkets in Basingstoke any more

One of the things I have really enjoyed about threads talking about the duller bits of royal duties is the ever changing list of (unexciting by worthy venue) in (really rather dullsville)

I had a night out in Basingstoke last month. It’s not a complete shit hole.
Princess Anne opened our local Iceland. She must have been thrilled.

upinaballoon · 20/04/2022 22:44

😄

upinaballoon · 20/04/2022 22:46

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 20/04/2022 11:34

Could it be that the Royals had a Zoom meeting and confessed to each other that they weren’t much feeling in the mood for doing the whole grinning-and-waving Buckingham Palace balcony routine?

They might have agreed that they would all rather have a low-key barbecue at Windsor to mark the occasion, at which point the idea of hiring Meghan and Harry as royal stand-ins took shape...

😄

mathanxiety · 20/04/2022 23:19

You're nickel and diming me here, EdithWeston.

She walked in through a side door on the arm of a nonce. She and he and all the rest of them knew the service was televised.

The televised service was an ideal opportunity for her to show whose side she is on, and she and the RF did exactly that.

In light of fairly recent cases involving widespread grooming and abuse of minors in the UK, it would have been nice of her to consider showing solidarity. Would Prince Philip have supported that? The British people should be able to state the answer to that with confidence.

Maybe the problem here is that neither she nor anyone around her thinks trafficked minors matter as much as her family.

Furries · 21/04/2022 02:12

For the Queen’s sake, I would like her to be surrounded by all of her family on this significant date. She should have everyone around her that she loves. In private. Her family, not the business of anyone else.

For the “public” part of the celebrations, Andrew and Harry can jog on. They should have some respect for the woman who has carried out her duty for the better part of her life. Let her have this celebration “drama-free”. It’s likely the last significant milestone for her. If nothing else, the two of them should have the smarts to realise that, given media coverage over the past year or so, their attendance will add “drama”. If either of them really love her, they would stay away/low-key. That would be an act of family love.

LovedayCL · 21/04/2022 03:13

Interesting that he added a comment about how with the Queen: ‘we talk about things that she can’t talk about with anybody else.’

Two comments alluding to their special relationship suggesting that he’s closer and ‘safer’ than her other family members. Perhaps he’s referring to Andrew but thatstill comes off as about him, not her. I mean - if there was somebody I trusted my confidences with, and they publicly told everyone else that - well I wouldn’t anymore. And that’s without them having a hotline to the press.

tigger2022 · 21/04/2022 06:07

Yes I am very skeptical of that claim by PH. It didn’t come across well. A lot of his income depends on his connection to the Queen so perhaps that’s why he had to say it.

WinnieTheW0rm · 21/04/2022 06:31

Interesting that he added a comment about how with the Queen: ‘we talk about things that she can’t talk about with anybody else.’

Probably means Archie and Lili, plus his family dogs

Swayingpalmtrees · 21/04/2022 06:33

For those asking why we care, like the majority of people in the UK I adore the Queen, I was very fond of Prince Philip.

It is unforgivable that Harry and Meghan choose to attack the Royal Family as he lay dying. Unforgivable that he claims to want a life of privacy whilst trading away the trust and love of his family to the highest bidder. He has damaged his own family with such indifference, it is horrifying quite frankly to watch.

And now he is on every news channel in the US divulging is latest supposedly private meeting with the Queen. It is beyond the pale.

Thankfully it seems he WONT be on the balcony as much as he would love to be, grabbing all of the deflected glory so he can cash in with Netflix. I am appalled, as most people are.

The Queen definitely needs protecting, protecting from the likes of him.

EdithWeston · 21/04/2022 06:48

She walked in through a side door on the arm of PA. She and he and all the rest of them knew the service was televised

They believed however that the Queen would not be depicted until in her seat. She couldn't be sending a public message in sections which were not for broadcast

This isn't hair splitting - it's an important difference about intent. The Queen of course remains silent.

AnastasiaRomanov · 21/04/2022 06:48

Swayingpalmtrees · 21/04/2022 06:33

For those asking why we care, like the majority of people in the UK I adore the Queen, I was very fond of Prince Philip.

It is unforgivable that Harry and Meghan choose to attack the Royal Family as he lay dying. Unforgivable that he claims to want a life of privacy whilst trading away the trust and love of his family to the highest bidder. He has damaged his own family with such indifference, it is horrifying quite frankly to watch.

And now he is on every news channel in the US divulging is latest supposedly private meeting with the Queen. It is beyond the pale.

Thankfully it seems he WONT be on the balcony as much as he would love to be, grabbing all of the deflected glory so he can cash in with Netflix. I am appalled, as most people are.

The Queen definitely needs protecting, protecting from the likes of him.

That’s exactly how I feel too. There’s an air of superior self satisfied arrogance in all he says and does with regard to his family. He just can’t see how incredibly inappropriate he is being .

EdithWeston · 21/04/2022 06:52

And now he is on every news channel in the US divulging is latest supposedly private meeting with the Queen. It is beyond the pale

There were reports a little while ago that none of the RF wanted to meet Prince Harry alone in private any more, because of concerns that contents of conversations could potentially be misrepresented and would end up published (whether in print or spoken at interview).

I thought that was going a bit far when I read it, but now I'm wondering

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