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Harry and Meghan 'are invited to appear on Buckingham Palace balcony at Queen's Platinum Jubilee'

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NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 19/04/2022 08:22

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10729859/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-invited-make-balcony-appearance-Jubilee.html

No source cited, so could just be made up news.

How do you all feel about this? Is it another refusing-to-fly-the-flag-at-half-mast-for-Diana misreading of the public mood? Does anybody actually care? And, if not, what does that signify?

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notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 20:17

Serenster · 06/05/2022 18:48

As I mentioned upthread, that entirely depends on the terms of their deal with Netflix. The more money they’ve been paid by Netflix to date = the more the likelihood that Netflix owns their output, having paid them and their production team for their work on it. If so, they don’t own it and so can’t shop it around.

Meaning what exactly?
That they pocket the money for doing nothing.
Does not sound like much of a loss for the Sussexes either way.

It could even free up more time for them to make content for other streamers like Nick Jnr etc.

notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 20:19

IcedPurple · 06/05/2022 19:21

Right. But as I asked above, why issue a statement at 7 in the morning?

Why does the world need to know whether or not they will be there in an unofficial capacity? Nobody else felt the need to make such an 'announcement'.

Why the palace issues a statement ?

Also, how do you know the Sussex phones have been blowing up with enquiries and they are just issuing one response to answer everyone in one go.

notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 20:24

tigger2022 · 06/05/2022 19:08

I feel bad for the Queen because she seems quite unwell and all the speculation is about whether her son is going to embarrass her or whether her grandson and his wife are going to say anything horrible, not about her celebration

I would have felt bad for her if she had nipped all the vitriol on her grandson and his wife ages ago, like she did with Sophie.
Now she reaps what she sows.

IcedPurple · 06/05/2022 20:25

Why the palace issues a statement ?

Because it's a state event and an official announcement about procedures seems appropriate.

Also, how do you know the Sussex phones have been blowing up with enquiries and they are just issuing one response to answer everyone in one go.

Their phones 'blowing up' at 7 in the morning?

Why not just get their 'spokesperson' to say that since the CHIMPO and the purported podcaster are private citizens, they will not be issuing statements about their family's unofficial visits to London?

People issue 'no comments' all the time. Why couldn't they?

Serenster · 06/05/2022 20:30

@notanotheroneagain meaning yes - they may have pocketed some money but have nothing to show for it. Financially no, that’s probably not much of a loss for them. Reputationally though it might make getting another deal harder as they’ll have to start from scratch, and a new broadcaster will have to spend a lot of money to get a new project up and running. They’ll have to deal with the fact they been very publicly dropped by their first broadcaster, which might make it harder to get a new project past the commissioning decision-makers. Also, from Meghan’s perspective, if Pearl was her passion project she’ll have lost it.

Roussette · 06/05/2022 20:35

notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 20:24

I would have felt bad for her if she had nipped all the vitriol on her grandson and his wife ages ago, like she did with Sophie.
Now she reaps what she sows.

Exactly! @notanotheroneagain You can't have it all ways

This thread is very amusing. I am predicting a complete meltdown when they come to the UK. How are some MNers going to cope?!

notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 20:43

Serenster · 06/05/2022 20:30

@notanotheroneagain meaning yes - they may have pocketed some money but have nothing to show for it. Financially no, that’s probably not much of a loss for them. Reputationally though it might make getting another deal harder as they’ll have to start from scratch, and a new broadcaster will have to spend a lot of money to get a new project up and running. They’ll have to deal with the fact they been very publicly dropped by their first broadcaster, which might make it harder to get a new project past the commissioning decision-makers. Also, from Meghan’s perspective, if Pearl was her passion project she’ll have lost it.

Money is what will matter since it will allow them to go quite big, and possibly pilot something to show. They cannot lose a reputation when Netflix is dropping everyone, and not the other way around - so this is not a matter of the Sussexes not obligating their contract. Publicity being dropped does not feature if everyone else is being dropped due to the broadcaster's own problems (they are not the only ones, even popular long standing animators are being dropped). Pearl may have been her baby, but her production can now prove that they are not a one horse pony and had other ideas to pitch anyway. How were they going to be sustainable if Peal was their only production.

notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 20:46

Their phones 'blowing up' at 7 in the morning?
No rest for the wicked. H&M are international now - don't they have UK representatives anyway?

People issue 'no comments' all the time. Why couldn't they?
And it was exactly that no comment that sent all that vitriol MM's way when she was in the palace. Giving a decisive answer stops all the lies and speculations.

PrettyMaybug · 06/05/2022 20:48

Yep, Megz and Hazza won't be only the balcony now.

www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/18444716/meghan-markle-news-queen-jubilee-balcony-prince-harry-andrew/

"A Palace spokesperson said: “After careful consideration, the Queen has decided this year’s traditional Trooping the Colour balcony appearance on Thursday 2nd June will be limited to Her Majesty and those members of the royal family who are currently undertaking official public duties on behalf of the Queen."

Chilledchablis1 · 06/05/2022 20:50

@notanotheroneagain

“They cannot lose a reputation when Netflix is dropping everyone, and not the other way around - so this is not a matter of the Sussexes not obligating their contract.”

Netflix isn’t dropping “ everyone “ !!

Soffit · 06/05/2022 20:51

I am sure that I read somewhere that the taxpayer is now financially contributing towards their security?

IcedPurple · 06/05/2022 20:52

No rest for the wicked. H&M are international now - don't they have UK representatives anyway?

So they had their "UK representative" primed with a statement ready to roll within minutes of an official palace announcement? Something none of the other grandchildren felt the need to do?

And it was exactly that no comment that sent all that vitriol MM's way when she was in the palace. Giving a decisive answer stops all the lies and speculations.

I thought they'd Found Freedom from all that?

I'm puzzled as to how a simple 'no comment' on the private activities of private citizens could lead to 'vitriol'. Mind you, for some here, everything is 'vitriol'.

Serenster · 06/05/2022 20:56

They were not the only projects dropped, but as this industry publication points out, five shows in various stages of production were dropped, but “it’s also worth pointing out that Netflix is still one of the world’s largest animation commissioners and producers with hundreds of animated films and series in various stages of development and production”. So no, not everyone was dropped.

The same article notes of Pearl that it was “still in very early development when Netflix decided not to continue production”. So if Netflix had paid Archewell a lot of money for a show that hadn’t moved beyond very early development, they would look like a financial risk for a new broadcaster. Also, I can’t imagine they’d have much appetite at all for spending their own money to develop something on spec to hawk around. That would cost a lot (understatement), with no certainty of success at all.

No matter how you want to spin this, this will have been a big blow to them.

www.cartoonbrew.com/streaming/netflix-animation-cancelations-2022-lineup-215797.html

CathyorClaire · 06/05/2022 21:06

All this means is that you lot will have another tantrum when H&M sign mega bucks for Pearl with Disney + and other companies

Given the heavy touting for Disney voiceovers culminating in...an elephant gig it's only going to happen in Black Mirror or (going back a bit) the Twilight Zone.

Anyone else picuring a tense not-a-lot else- to do Just Call Me Harry hunched over his keyboard with fingers poised and constantly refreshing Royal announcements?

I am Grin

CathyorClaire · 06/05/2022 21:18

I'm aware of him also narrating a wildlife documentary

On defenceless water buffalo and how to shoot them for fun?

FoiledByTheInsect · 06/05/2022 21:21

Buffalo episode 1, episode 2 will be on how to shoot endangered birds of prey in the north of England and not get arrested. Talented guy.

notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 21:33

@Serenster no matter how much you try to spin this, this is not a loss for them.

Strangely enough the timing of stopping the production (which in this case was done by Netflix animation team themselves, which is folding at the early stages of this production) means that they cannot be blamed for tanking on ratings.

As has been reported Netflix Animation has cancelled well known, already done productions. It's only natural that they cancel those that are still in the early stages.

notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 21:36

So they had their "UK representative" primed with a statement ready to roll within minutes of an official palace announcement? Something none of the other grandchildren felt the need to do?

Maybe their team knows how do to their job accurately. And maybe no one cares about the other grandchildren.
I noted just now that ITV shows us a picture of the previous balcony and only says H, M and A are not coming. Right on the same picture is B, E, Z and P - absolutely no mention of them.

Chilledchablis1 · 06/05/2022 21:36

@notanotheroneagain

And no matter how YOU try to spin it , this has not been a success !

IcedPurple · 06/05/2022 21:41

Maybe their team knows how do to their job accurately.

If by ensuring that attention is placed on the CHIMPO and failed NF producer's increasingly tarnished royal connections, rather than their lack of achievements, then yes I guess their 'team' are indeed 'accurate'.

And maybe no one cares about the other grandchildren.

Or maybe the other grandchildren know that this event is about the queen, not about their desperate need to always get their 'side' across.

notanotheroneagain · 06/05/2022 21:46

Hold on, you are now saying H&M are telling ITV and other British media who to report on?

Making millions is not a failure by any standards.

And why is everyone going on about Harry's hunting 18yrs ago. Didn't the Cambridges take George hunting like, last year.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 06/05/2022 23:34

It's only Pearl that's been dropped though, not the Netflix deal with the Sussexes overall. That's good and bad news. Good as they are still in that partnership. Bad as in they still have to deliver the content Netflix are paying them for, and they haven't delivered any yet, and Pearl is now off the menu for Netflix. So they get to keep whatever they've been paid so far, presumably, but will have to come up with other ways to fulfill their side of the bargain.

Archwell actually appointed a head of content a while back, Ben Browning, who is well regarded as a producer. I thought this was a few months ago, but when I just checked it was March 2021. So over a year in post, and yet no content has emerged in that time, or news of any new planned titles, and Pearl was still only in development. I wonder what he's been doing?

LondonWolf · 06/05/2022 23:44

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Says you who is posting repeatedly about them Grin

friendlycat · 07/05/2022 00:31

It’s great that they are bringing over their children so Her Majesty can see them.

it’s weird that security is no longer a problem. It’s weirder that Harry could not confirm a while ago whether they would be coming. It’s insidious that Buckingham Palace puts out a statement on balcony appearances and twenty minutes later their odious PR person puts out a statement that they are coming.

Sorry but this is so wrong on all levels as always. If they were coming why couldn’t they just come without statements etc. They could have just arrived, been low key and supportive. They would have still been included within certain parameters of it all, but no there has to be a statement from their PR machine.

Sadly you can’t help but think that they need to demonstrate their close alliance to the royal family. Of course he is the monarch’s grandson. He could be in attendance in whatever capacity is suitable but why the statement??

I feel sorry that The Queen has to deal with all of this in her twilight years without the sounding board of her husband. And obviously the Andrew situation. It’s obviously not what she would have wanted in her 96th year of age. It also seems sad that it’s such an achievement to have served your country for such longevity and to have external circumstances undermine your achievements, commitment and duty.

DFOD · 07/05/2022 01:06

Do we know what jubilee events they will potentially be publicly attending? The concert, service at St Paul’s etc? What’s the schedule? Is it only the balcony that Andrew, H&M won’t be at? Seems that there might be other opportunities for them to celebrate together?

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