Prince Harry not attending Philips memorial

[FlyingGeeseAgain]

It has been confirmed that Prince Harry will not be attending P Philips memorial service. What are people’s thoughts about this? Is the whole security issue a smoke screen for the fact he can’t face his family?

@Roussette

Care? I care about aot more things going on at the moment actually but if you want an answer..let him pay

And before we get into an endless cycle of no he can't, yes he can, whole threads have been done on it which indicate to me, yes he can.
It would be for a few days very occasionally, so what. Personally I think he should have it

Millions are being spent on a private jet and entourage in the Caribbean at the moment. A few days sometime in the future seems paltry to me

What is less often noted, as pp have said, is that even under the current RAVEC decision, Harry would most likely get this. He has not been denied protection full stop. The decision was that he would get full protection when needed and that RAVEC would assess that need on a case by case basis. For someone who is no longer a working royal, and now lives overseas, that seems pretty reasonable to me. However, Harry's claim is based on the notion that there should be no case by case, contextual judgement, and no restrictions whatsoever - that he should simply be provided with blanket protection at the highest level, for the duration of any visit he makes to the UK, or any reason whatsoever. In short, he does not recognise that there should be any limits at all to the privileges he enjoyed as a serving royal, now that he no longer does that job and is a private citizen living, making his own money - and presumably now paying his taxes - elsewhere. This is not only illogical, it's tone deaf given the hardships people have suffered (worldwide) in the pandemic and the cost of living crisis that's about to engulf the UK.

In short, it's not a matter of 'a few days' which he is likely to get anyway. It's that he refuses to accept the UK should set any limits on its responsibilities to him, even though he has rejected any sense of what responsibilities he might still owe to the UK (from whose system of privilege he still benefits in terms of his title and public profile) in return.

I wonder if it has any impact on his tax situation for Harry to insist that the UK is his home.

I have a vague notion (garnered here from the wearisome H&M threads) that at least one of his laughably underperforming charities is domiciled in Delaware which apparently gives him awesome tax breaks and the chance to hoover up a huge percentage of the funds raised.

Happy to be corrected

That's not exclusive to Harry though, Cathy. In the US, these "charitable foundations" are obliged to give very little to the actual charity - if memory serves I think it's about 5%

Which may partly explain why so many of the very rich put their names to one

Absolutely, Puzzled

I'd be interested to know where an amount equating to substantially over the average UK wage apparently raised by Archewell has found a home.

Clear enlightenment on the final destination of funds originally granted to SussexRoyal and Travalyst when the Royal Foundation split might also be welcome.

Oh dear. Harry's case was in court today, not for the judgement itself, but for a decision on keeping parts of the case and the documentation private. That has been granted by the judge so that details of security procedures don't enter the public domain. Seems reasonable. But Harry's barrister got a telling off from the judge because they sent the embargoed judgement to someone else before they should have done.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-harry-lawyers-high-court-judge-ruling-leak-security-b990223.html

You would think that someone so concerned as Harry is with people respecting his privacy would not leak information when it's prohibited. But seems it's one rule for him, another for everyone else.

With all thats going on in the world Harry can only think of himself and what he wants.

BBC article on today in court

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60860357

He started the action in September 2021, and the court timings aren't within his control, so I don't think the 'with all that's going on with the world' bit could have been foreseen

Edith, I agree, no he couldn't. But the Cambridge's Jubilee of the Caribbean has been labelled tasteless given the current situation by many posters when in reality it would have been planned and scheduled in great detail for some time and not appropriate to cancel because of events in Ukraine.

@Viviennemary

With all thats going on in the world Harry can only think of himself and what he wants.

That's it in a nutshell really.

'With all thats going on in the world Harry can only think of himself and what he wants.'

Yes exactly this...the Oprah interview banging on about daddy cutting him off financially at the time when hundreds of thousands of people were losing their livelihoods and loved ones.

Disgusting.

I thought he was meant to be presenting an award at the Oscars. I can't find anywhere which mentions he even attended. Maybe he will be at the memorial after all.

Just goes to show that you can't believe everything you read doesn't it. There were reports in lots of places saying that Meghan was going to be presenting an award. Obviously just guess work.

There was a funny comment on Twitter about the real award ceremony being 3 days beforehand with just H, M and the winners . Last night’s spectacle was for the world !

@meercat23

Just goes to show that you can't believe everything you read doesn't it. There were reports in lots of places saying that Meghan was going to be presenting an award. Obviously just guess work.

Or maybe luck's finally decided to be a lady and stopped pissing on them for now

In other news - the ghastly uncle is apparently preparing to stomp the light fantastic finally bow quietly out of public life tomorrow.

Believe it when I see it.

Duke of York will, I expect, only appear at certain family church and formal ceremonies - such as births, marriages, deaths and jubilees. And he'll be slipping in and out quietly, not on the main parades (like Sandringham Christmas)

Harry conspicuous by his absence today. I wonder if he’s watching it in California and feeling guilty?

AnastasiaRomanov

“Harry conspicuous by his absence today. I wonder if he’s watching it in California and feeling guilty?”

If he isn’t feeling guilty he should .

< awaits pile on>

Interesting to see HM chose to have Andrew in the car with her

Interesting to see HM chose to have Andrew in the car with her

This is being discussed on the Andrew thread as well. Posters saying it does avoid him coming in through the main entrance to be received officially by the clergy, which makes sense.

AnastasiaRomanov
I bet he is watching and full of regreat and sooner or later he is going to start blaming Meghan for all this!

This is being discussed on the Andrew thread as well. Posters saying it does avoid him coming in through the main entrance to be received officially by the clergy, which makes sense

Hadn't though of that - yes it does make sense.

The Queen always looks somber/respectful during the National Anthem, but I thought she looked sad as well today.

@AnastasiaRomanov

Harry conspicuous by his absence today. I wonder if he’s watching it in California and feeling guilty?

I hope he does feel guilty but tbh I don't think he is conspicuous by his absence, he just isn't part of them anymore and would stick out like a sore thumb with his glowering and hard stares.

If he ever showed any self awareness he would admit that the sad estrangement is all his own self indulgent doing.

Poor Beatrice very upset.

Harry should have swallowed his pride and went. It was his grandfather.

Did I hear the sky news reporter right, one in pink coat, did she say the children should be in school?