Prince Harry not attending Philips memorial

[FlyingGeeseAgain]

It has been confirmed that Prince Harry will not be attending P Philips memorial service. What are people’s thoughts about this? Is the whole security issue a smoke screen for the fact he can’t face his family?

H&M are a team, and lots of people have talked about both on this thread. Harry is being targeted because his wife is black and so are his children.
Racists have moved on from the obvious race name calling, it's done subtly nowadays.

As for the lame excuse that Andrew is let go because it's been quiet, yet this case was in February and it's still rambling on now. With a lot of vitriol in an echo chamber, intersected by the occasional poster who disagrees.

@Bellevu

This thread is appalling. I'm sure most of you have been on the other posts claiming that the UK is one of the most tolerant places in the world and allegations of racism are just chippy folks looking for problems.

I'm black and these Meghan threads only confirm to me and those who look like me that she made the right decision to tell the racists to sod off. It's satisfying that so many of you are enraged because for once a black person had, and used her, power to say she wouldn't tolerate what the rest of us have to in our daily lives.

Great post.

@notanotheroneagain

H&M are a team, and lots of people have talked about both on this thread. Harry is being targeted because his wife is black and so are his children. Racists have moved on from the obvious race name calling, it's done subtly nowadays.

As for the lame excuse that Andrew is let go because it's been quiet, yet this case was in February and it's still rambling on now. With a lot of vitriol in an echo chamber, intersected by the occasional poster who disagrees.

No, posters are not targeting them because M is black. They are being criticised by some posters because of their behaviour. For the millionth time.

yet this case was in February and it's still rambling on now

That's why I was asking if I'd missed the conclusion, but it seems we are still awaiting it.

Andrew thread is here, if you want to keep it going (has been active recently)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/4464450-Prince-Andrew-Thread-4

@notanotheroneagain

Ashton Kutcher did not help Afghanistan, Syria etc. He only helped Ukraine. His choice. H&M also have a choice of who they will give big money to, and it's up to them that is not Ukraine.

That chef Jose of World Kitchen said they are working with Archewell. They are busy feeding Ukranians currently.

We have no idea if they gave big money to anyone. After all they have done publicity on a $25 starbucks coffee voucher before. We do know that Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis have made very large personal donations and raised further millions for their Ukrainian appeal. This is from some USA news site so not fully verified but appears to have some legitimacy.

"Kutcher and Kunis created the fundraising page March 3 and made a personal donation of $3 million. Since then, more than 65,000 donors have contributed to the campaign.

The list of top contributors includes some of the world’s wealthiest individuals. Billionaire Larry Ellison, the chairman of Oracle, has donated $5 million. Silicon Valley private equity firm DST Global contributed $3 million, and the family foundation of DST partner Yuri Milner gave $2.5 million.

Another $2.5 million donation came from the family of renowned Silicon Valley angel investor Ron Conway. Fashion model Karlie Kloss and her husband, Josh Kushner, donated $250,000 through their foundation. Kushner is a venture capital investor and the brother of former President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner."

@Bellevu it’s about Prince Harry

I don't think Archewell's activities icw Ukraine (and it was nice to see HALO mentioned) will make any difference to the JR.

Thanks to the posters who have explained about timings/backlogs and confirmed I hadn't missed anything either!

Gosh

Holding up the Kushners as some sort of good example, is

so is it the case that some donations for very good causes are tainted and some aren't? who decides? not sure any refugees would care that much quite who the support comes from if support is there on the ground for them in those neighbouring countries.

Roussette

Not a lot to discuss

Apart from his ability to keep his PPOs despite, as you say, he's morally repugnant

My understanding is that his protection is being / has been removed . And so it should .

[quote EdithWeston]yet this case was in February and it's still rambling on now

That's why I was asking if I'd missed the conclusion, but it seems we are still awaiting it.

Andrew thread is here, if you want to keep it going (has been active recently)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/4464450-Prince-Andrew-Thread-4[/quote]
My whole point is that the Andrew thread started in January and only has 22 pages. Meaning he is left alone now and again.

Harry's case was a month ago, this thread should not have been active since then, and should resume when the judgement on the case is back on.

If people had the same energy to be vitriolic about Andrew as Harry, there should be lots of 1000s posts of threads on him.

going back to the actual thread, the reason Harry isn't coming for his grandfather's memorial is because of security.

He is currently suing

The Home Office on the security issue
The Daily Mail on their article about the security issue
in addition to NOTW (?) re phone hacking and possibly other paps for photos taken.

It's entirely up to him and his wallet to take these actions but it does maintain his place in the media.

Regardless of views of Andrew (nothing to recommend at all) he has STFU. Apart from reports that he wants to go to his father's memorial which is understanable

Don't know why you are quoting a post on Kusher. My understanding is that he and his wife are involved because of Mila's heritage.
As I said, he never donated to Afghanistan and other countries that had big suffering lately.

As for you just quoting only the Starbucks donation(which was very much appreciated as those employees burning the midnight oil). Just because the rags will not publish H&M achievements. I think it was on this thread that I posted some of the things that H&M did, which all add up. IN case I did not, I will link it again.

Andrew is a disgrace but at least he’s been silenced and is out of the public view now. Harry continues to preach and complain at every opportunity.

Screen shots did not link.

when did Harry preach and moan?

He has not said anything, except confirm a question that he cannot come to his grandfather's memorial back beginning of the month.

My understanding is that his protection is being / has been removed

There is no confirmation of this.
'Could be faced with it...'
'He faces calls to have his security removed...'
'May now have to fund it...'

I doubt it will happen. He'll probably keep it via the back door/Queen

@notanotheroneagain
Preach, moan and whine are favourite words of those who will continually deride him
It's a bit repetitive I have to say.
Because keeping on saying those words doesn't make it fact!

Andrew getting to keep his protection can only be down to Mummy which translates to yet another silent two fingers at the hoi on his behalf. I don't rate his chances of keeping either his protection or his eye-wateringly cheap deal on Royal Lodge once big bro takes up the reins in earnest.

I don't think Harry getting a highly trained (on our buck) police detail even for a few days is going to come at a paltry cost either.

Apart from the cost of the training (an ongoing thing) already mentioned, there's the background work in surveillance and assessment of threat. These guys aren't going to be on minimum wage and then there's also the cost of paying them to get up to date with the work they would have been doing had they not been required to divert for a rich boy whose only discernable talent appears to be bleating.

in addition to NOTW (?) re phone hacking

And you think this is wrong??

Less famous people than him have taken the money and run. He's making a point. It's been proven and admitted his phone was hacked by them. Good on him for making a stand.

'Bleating' !!

I forgot that one! Must add it to the list....

@Roussette

'Bleating' !!

I forgot that one! Must add it to the list....

You could do a bingo card with all those repetitive names H&M has been called. 😂😂

You could do a bingo card with all those repetitive names H&M has been called

'Bleating' is a verb not a noun.

You're welcome

'I don't think Harry getting a highly trained (on our buck) police detail even for a few days is going to come at a paltry cost either.'

Yes but money well spent to prevent a potential tragedy and then the public outcry and blame.

I must admit I do think he should have a close protection officer when in this country. Yes he has flounced and as such doesn't represent the monarchy but he is still relatively high profile and would surely sadly be a target.

@ JaniieJones

As has been said hundreds of times , he would be automatically protected if he was with the RF .
Strange that other RF members and those from overseas are willing to take this huge risk to attend PP’s Memorial Service .
I do think that in years to come H will regret not attending this event . He says he wants to visit HM as soon as possible ; without being disrespectful to HM he should come soon or that will be another regret.