Prince Harry not attending Philips memorial

[FlyingGeeseAgain]

It has been confirmed that Prince Harry will not be attending P Philips memorial service. What are people’s thoughts about this? Is the whole security issue a smoke screen for the fact he can’t face his family?

Interested? Nah... just imagined you have muddled me up somehow, as your venom is out of proportion in response to my one post.
Weird.

I don't know... M&H to put it politely can be... quite irritating in their public pronouncements? They certainly know how to push people's buttons anyway!

However I don't think that stops it from all being quite sad. It's impossible to know what goes on behind closed doors however a lot of what they have said about public things just aren't true.

For example, all those years ago the "intro" British people had to Meghan Markle was Harry publishing a statement asking the evil British press to leave her alone and stop being racist - but at that point, nothing had been published about her, and nobody knew who she was. Similarly when they talk about what horrible coverage she got leading up to the wedding - that just wasn't true, 99% were really excited, supportive, most felt very sorry for Meghan about her father standing her up, etc.

I don't know... it's very sad, I know they both have/had mental health issues, it's really sad that they never realised how well-liked they were, and now because they THOUGHT they were hated they behaved in a way which means that came true and now a lot of people really don't like them.

I don't think mental health is an excuse to treat people as badly as they did, but nevertheless I do feel sympathy for M&H. Their family will probably never really forgive them - I don't think I could forgive someone if they did even 1/10th of that to me!

Maybe it's Omid Scobie!

Harry publishing a statement asking the evil British press to leave her alone and stop being racist - but at that point, nothing had been published about her, and nobody knew who she was. Similarly when they talk about what horrible coverage she got leading up to the wedding - that just wasn't true, 99% were really excited, supportive, most felt very sorry for Meghan about her father standing her up, etc

That's incorrect. Yes there had been racist press when he put out the statement.
And yes there had even been threads on here that were unpleasant about her. I won't forget the one entitled 'I'm fucking sick of Harry and Meghan already'... this was before the wedding.
So let's not pretend it was all sweetness and light and goodwill. It wasn't.
Straight outta Compton headlines in DM was way before the wedding.

ChiefInspector

I could not disagree with you more. The irrational hate posting about H&M is off the scale. And calling those that don't dislike them 'stans'? And for your info, there are many times I personally have said they made a balls up with this or that. I've always said I didn't agree with the OW interview and other stuff.
But you've lumped us all together as 'stans' and say we're the irrational ones?

"stans"? Are you 14? Good grief.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit.

But why did you have to be rude? I wasn't to you.

What do you want me to engage with?
Your post to me said to give it a rest with my off the chart arse licking of royals.

I was taken aback to be honest. And have no idea how to engage wth that.

@ChiefInspectorParker

Why is it sadder than those who seek out every Harry thread to pile hate on someone? I would suggest those that are on every Harry and Meghan thread to hate on them are far sadder. And quite pathetic.

I think it’s because the H&M stans will defend the indefensible, such as Meghan’s economy with the truth in court - which really is not okay no matter who does it - her obvious lies in the Oprah interview, etc.

I don’t know about others but I personally get fed up with the constant, disingenuous whataboutery that the H&M defenders engage in.

There are also the accusations that other posters are ‘full of hate’ and must lead ‘sad lives’, that the H&M stans ‘feel sorry for them’ etc. That grates a bit.

You get a lot more balanced posting from the ‘haters’ and they are more likely to accept other points of view, accept when they’ve made mistakes, changed their minds, etc.

This.

@Roussette

ChiefInspector

I could not disagree with you more. The irrational hate posting about H&M is off the scale. And calling those that don't dislike them 'stans'? And for your info, there are many times I personally have said they made a balls up with this or that. I've always said I didn't agree with the OW interview and other stuff.
But you've lumped us all together as 'stans' and say we're the irrational ones?

Rousette you have never said you disagree with anything they do. Ever.

@Roussette re this "Harry publishing a statement asking the evil British press to leave her alone and stop being racist" I'm talking about the very first statement Harry published, before any UK press had written about him being in a relationship with Meghan at all. This was how the relationship was announced to the UK public, by condemning non-existent bad press (there wasn't bad press because there wasn't any press at all).

Leading up to the wedding: Nobody can expect to be liked by everyone, but the coverage was overwhelmingly positive. Even the dodgy stuff was intended to be positive (even if it was dodgy).

DesertStorms

That is a complete lie. On probably 5 occasions on these threads I have categorically said that I thought they should not have done the OW interview.

Just make stuff up why don't you.

@Wardrobes123

Well given the Queen is no longer going, I think he probably is trying to avoid further fanfare from his presence alone.

I do hate how it’s become Harry is the bad one while William is a saint, when actually it appears that they are both flawed adults who don’t always make perfect choices. The vilification of Harry in the media is ridiculous IMO

Nice to know it's not just me who feels this way. Ditto about St Kate v Demon Meghan.

I'm pretty sure the Queen IS going (it's another service she isn't going to)

tigger

The DM put out a horrible straight outta compton front page about where Meghan's mother had lived likening it to a ghetto. Calling it gang scarred. Saying her aunt lives nearby near gangs. Murder, robbery, thefts, vandals and goes into all the gang rituals etc. It was vile.
Beginning November.

Harry's statement was after

Looks like megains father had started his own YouTube to get his voice heard.

For example, all those years ago the "intro" British people had to Meghan Markle was Harry publishing a statement asking the evil British press to leave her alone and stop being racist - but at that point, nothing had been published about her, and nobody knew who she was. Similarly when they talk about what horrible coverage she got leading up to the wedding - that just wasn't true, 99% were really excited, supportive, most felt very sorry for Meghan about her father standing her up, etc.

What are you on about. 2 days after the announcement that H&M were an item, the sun tracked down Samantha for negative stories. They also went on about Compton and Doria's dreadlocks. It's after all this that Harry addressed the racist undertones.

At some point, thing were so bad that female MPs and a women legal organisation wrote an open letter, asking the press to stop!

Up to him isn't it. He went to the funeral to pay his respects, maybe he personally feels that's enough, and that's fine. It's his personal life at the end of the day.

@Jconnais1chansonquivavsenerver - I don't really agree that the comparisons are appropriate. I mean for years and years and years it was boring William vs cool & fun Harry. Harry did some AWFUL things like dressing as a Nazi and calling his colleagues racist names, but was broadly forgiven despite not showing much remorse (if anything he thought he'd been wronged by the press for reporting it!) as the public liked him and felt sorry for him - William at the time would never have got away with that in a million, billion years.

Similarly Kate was monstered in the press (and Camilla, for decades) - it took her a long time to get used to the role, the press were not that nice to her for ages (they called her aloof, they called her horrible names before she was married, they didn't like the way she didn't pose for pictures, they were elitist and classist about her family, they were sexist and slut-shaming, she had topless photos taken on a long-lens published in France, etc). It took years of dedicated work for Kate to become as liked as she is now - and I agree to a certain extent that nobody should be treated as badly as that even if they're a public servant, but nevertheless Meghan isn't a like-for-like comparison because she only did it for a few months. Compare the way Meghan was treated in 2020 to the way Kate was treated in ~2006/7 or a few years before their marriage (or compare how Prince Harry is treated to how Prince William was treated literally any time before Harry became unpopular!).

All packaged together in one day and he couldn't even make that due to his holiday.

Well I’m sure he (William) ok’d it first as it would have been known when the service was prior to him arranging his holiday. Harry I believe had been expected to attend the memorial for PP but didn’t come due to the security issue as it would have been a bit suspect if he had. He was presumably available to come apart from that.

What are you talking about, William has always been protected and Harry offered as the bad guy. A lot of what William does is not reported on or is kept low key.

Much was made about Harry's costume and he apologised and went on a course for it.

@notanotheroneagain

What are you talking about, William has always been protected and Harry offered as the bad guy. A lot of what William does is not reported on or is kept low key.

Much was made about Harry's costume and he apologised and went on a course for it.

He didn't go on a course for the Nazi costume (which was wrongly dismissed at the time as "banter") he went on a course because he called colleagues in the army by racial slurs