Prince Harry not attending Philips memorial

[FlyingGeeseAgain]

It has been confirmed that Prince Harry will not be attending P Philips memorial service. What are people’s thoughts about this? Is the whole security issue a smoke screen for the fact he can’t face his family?

@ancientgran

My suspicion is that the more public events are problematic for Harry. Everyone will know/guess that he is coming for some known events, meaning that his enemies will know too.

It makes sense that if he is coming over here he will do as many visits as possible as he will cross the sea and timelines to get here. But can he book an old charity visit without anyone saying anything to anyone? Can he guarantee this. Then there is the 'palace sources' who will run to the press even if he was trying to see granny incognito, compromising his security.

I can see why he is fighting for this.

There’s a difference between the royal family and the royal household.

I really don't think there would be a RF representative. I can't see what role they'd have on such a body.

And I can see why there would naturally be members, whose identities would need to be kept secret, from certain other organisations on a body of thi

Do expand on that @Gilmorehill

@EdithWeston

I really don't think there would be a RF representative. I can't see what role they'd have on such a body.

And I can see why there would naturally be members, whose identities would need to be kept secret, from certain other organisations on a body of thi

What would make you say that considering that the RAVEC annual operational plan and budget is prepared jointly by HO, Police and royal household.

Who do you think Harry is referring to with the testimony he is giving?

@ldontWanna

Doubt it. If he'd just left, he'd have rapidly faded from public consciousness. But when you've got previous for racially abusing people and yet set yourself up as some sort of evangelical social justice warrior; using unfounded allegations against your own family to generate TV ratings and attention; lashing out at your country; are privileged beyond belief and always have been - yet never stop whining; alternately work with paparazzi/media but sue any time someone says something you don't like etc, then it'll attract criticism.

If he'd just left would anyone actually care that he's not a member of the RF anymore? I doubt people would be paying much attention. They don't seem to to Edward. In fact, as far as I'm aware Harry kind of still is in the RF given that they've clung to their titles.

The Oprah interview alone made a spectacle of them for years to come. Their choice, but where does the "jilted lover" part come into it - it's really not much more deep than another sanctimonious and hypocritical public figure being skewered.

I’d be glad never to hear from the two of them again. Let them disappear up their own arses.

Go read what I attached again, it sounds like Harry is saying he has evidence or testimony to prove that person had an agenda against him and that what he represents will show this and why

All it says that in Harry’s opinion, insufficient information was supplied about the members of the committee. But we don’t know if that’s unusual or not or if anyone else who deals with the committee is given this information. If you read more of what she says, she says that they now know that the Cabinet Office as “an entity” is involved. She does not in any way seem to be referring to members of the Royal Family. And if I remember correctly, the judge admonished Harry’s QC for bringing up details that are not relevant to the question of whether there should be a review of the Home Office decision, which is all that this hearing is about.

@FlyingGeeseAgain

I’d be glad never to hear from the two of them again. Let them disappear up their own arses.

Same here, I wish the whinging man child would vanish in to the private life he claimed he wanted.

@FlyingGeeseAgain

I’d be glad never to hear from the two of them again. Let them disappear up their own arses.

Then why start a thread encouraging more discussions and media search of him?

It's like moaning you're fat while eating a whole cake by yourself.

@FlyingGeeseAgain

I’d be glad never to hear from the two of them again. Let them disappear up their own arses.

So much so, you had to go start a completely new thread on them !

Because every time he does something else cringe making I wonder when he will finally shut up.

@FlyingGeeseAgain

Because every time he does something else cringe making I wonder when he will finally shut up.

And what is so difficult about thinking that briefly to yourself in passing. You have to go all the way to creating a thread about it.

@Makeitsoso

His security detail was removed. In other countries you are allowed paid security (with weapons). We don’t allow that here for obvious reasons. He asked to be allowed to pay for the met to protect him. That was refused.

I think anyone should be able to see that he is a very high risk target, as are his children. He is at risk of kidnap, public torture online… as are his kids. It’s pretty serious stuff.

Do you think he should be asked to risk his life to visit his family? It seems very harsh.

Beatrice and Eugenie manage without it in the UK as indeed did his sainted Mama when it suited her to give her detail the slip.

You have to go all the way to creating a thread about it.

@notanotheroneagain

It's a website built around discussion. Others may not tailor that around your personal preferences, whether it's easy to do so or not. Welcome to the Internet.

If you don't like it, don't click.

But can he book an old charity visit without anyone saying anything to anyone?

Given that 76% of charities with official royal patronages don't see 'their' royal's mug darkening their door in a year it's reasonably safe to assume that the whirlwind visit style he favours won't have a rescinded patronage catch-up high on the agenda.

What would make you say that considering that the RAVEC annual operational plan and budget is prepared jointly by HO, Police and royal household

Can you link something that shows that is the case?

Who do you think Harry is referring to with the testimony he is giving?

No idea what he's thinking. I've already said that I expect these who remain anonymous will be the spooks.

@EdithWeston

What would make you say that considering that the RAVEC annual operational plan and budget is prepared jointly by HO, Police and royal household

Can you link something that shows that is the case?

Who do you think Harry is referring to with the testimony he is giving?

No idea what he's thinking. I've already said that I expect these who remain anonymous will be the spooks.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/100261/7367-RAVEC-TOR.pdf

@CathyorClaire

But can he book an old charity visit without anyone saying anything to anyone?

Given that 76% of charities with official royal patronages don't see 'their' royal's mug darkening their door in a year it's reasonably safe to assume that the whirlwind visit style he favours won't have a rescinded patronage catch-up high on the agenda.

This is reportedly the case with other royals, but for Harry, it's well recorded that he visits his charities a lot.

This is reportedly the case with other royals, but for Harry, it's well recorded that he visits his charities a lot

In the UK?

Can you provide a link for this?

For all of the last 2 yrs there have been zoom calls between H & M and their charities, but I assume because the British press does not bother with reporting on them, you don't know.
For now you can google :

• You already know about Invictus
• Harry has raised over 3M for Sentebale
• They are working with Central Kitchen for feeding Ukraine people who are displaced.
• Last week they still had work with investments with SmartWorks

There are several tweets and reports of them still supporting their old charities like Grenfell Tower and Commonwealth Youth working with Harry's Better Up. There were several zoom calls shown within the last 2yrs, but I'm not too sure why you would ask of H&M specifically in the UK , as it was the queen who stripped them off these organisations.

www.standard.co.uk/evening-standard/news/london/meghan-markle-grenfell-tower-anniversary-hubb-kitchen-a4468551.html

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/19/queen-commonwealth-trust-prince-harry

www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220301134284/meghan-markle-archewell-foundation-grant-smart-works-exclusive/

I linked a few, but maybe it would be better if you just say the organisation you have in mind? Don't see how you cannot Google any of it though.

@notanotheroneagain. The above link to RAVEC that you have provided only says that they (RAVEC) approve the budget prepared jointly by the police, HO and royal household (note not royal family). It does not state that they prepare the budget, nor does it state that a member of the RF is on RAVEC.

Ok then, approved ! Happy now? Because then it means they sign off on it, if they 'approve', so more gravitas.

So who is this part of the Royal household then? Some random off the street, representing the royal household somehow? Who is this person who is 'approving'?

Also, please do expand on what is the household vs family.

@notanotheroneagain

Do expand on that *@Gilmorehill*

Honestly if you need that explained to you, you know nothing about how the monarchy works.

Well, prove to us that you know everything then. Go ahead and explain.