If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....

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...why would you want to have them participate in a really high-profile public bash?

Particularly one to celebrate an institution you have walked away from.

Genuinely puzzled.

Thinking cynically, I think Netflix content is probably the modern equivalent of the milk advert.

@AllThePogs

Kate had security paid for by the taxpayer before she was a member of the Royal Family

I didn't know that.

@Roussette

They are however members of the royal family and can say that they are. I don't see the issue with that. His mother is Princess Ann

As I said upthread, if Harry did an advert like Peter did, there would be a complete meltdown.

I agree, as far as I'm concerned Harry and Meghan are now private citizens and if they wanted to flog milk, let them crack on. Same as I've no issue with their Netflix deal, they still have to put a roof over their heads and feed their children. I don't see the issue.

But I think he wants firearm protection, which only the RP CP team can have. Not sure how a firearm is going to help in a motorcade incident when driving away from paparazzi, a competent and skilled driver is probably of more use.

Maybe he has been in the States too long 🤷‍♀️🤣

@AllThePogs

Kate had security paid for by the taxpayer before she was a member of the Royal Family

was that before her engagement or after engagement and before marriage?

[quote smilesy]@rubicscubicle on the other thread, it was pointed out by people who know about these things that “security staff” does not mean currently employed officers, and that Pippa Middleton’s profile was high at the time of the second report (after the Cambridges wedding) and Special Protection may well have been responding to a specific threat.[/quote]
That particular article, refers to currently employed staff, not former. It even goes on about the taxpayer funding.

Why is she using 'royal' protection, instead of normal police like all us other plebs would? She is not royal.

I actually have no problem with security being paid for Kate before she was a member of the Royal Family. She was clearly at risk before their marriage. But the issue is the double standard.

@ChiefInspectorParker

Peter Phillips is rather tawdry imo.

I know what you mean, but then again, I suppose he has to earn a living with no handouts from his Dad or anyone else.

Perhaps the Royal CP were the only team skilled to handle the threat at that time.

CP isn't just policing, it's a different skill set. But I can only assume as I don't know the facts.

Where does this threat on his last visit being the paparazzi.

Because in Harry's statement, he does not say what the threat was, just refers to an incident.

@TheHairyDinosaur Or maybe the Palace gets what the palace wants. And they don't want security for Harry and Meghan.

Where does this threat on his last visit being the paparazzi.

On the sky news report amongst others it says his car was pursued by paps. Presumably brandishing cameras but not guns.

@HoppingPavlova All the more reason for Harry and his family to received armed police protection if and when they do come to visit. And chances are, such visits would be rare. And if there is a credible threat, I actually don’t think he should pay for the costs of his own protection.

As for Diana, she was chased down by paparazzi. Even after the accident, her car etc. was papped. I vaguely remember reading about how the British press refrained from publishing the more gruesome pictures, but it sadly wasn’t the case for other countries.

[quote AllThePogs]@TheHairyDinosaur Or maybe the Palace gets what the palace wants. And they don't want security for Harry and Meghan.[/quote]
I'd hope not, I'd hope it was a case of "we can't, because we can't explain why you need it with your risk/threat level so low" rather than "we don't want to"

But you never know.

As harsh as their falling out may have been and public, you'd hope nobody would want their own son/brother/grandson in danger.

I mean my brother has been a right wanker to me at times but I wouldn't want him to come to harm 😳 mum still blames me for her glass fish ornament being broken in 1996 but it wasn't me it was my brother. He's protested his innocence for nearly 2 decades....but he knows the truth 🤣 he was the one who kicked the football inside the living room.

But I digress, they are as dysfunctional as it comes, so who knows.

@AllThePogs

I actually have no problem with security being paid for Kate before she was a member of the Royal Family. She was clearly at risk before their marriage. But the issue is the double standard.

Didn't Meghan get security after her engagement and pre wedding, but no security prior to the engagement? Same as Kate?

@smilesy

Where does this threat on his last visit being the paparazzi.

On the sky news report amongst others it says his car was pursued by paps. Presumably brandishing cameras but not guns.

Yes, that may have happened too. But is that what he was referring to? Since he does not say it.

Didn't Meghan get security after her engagement and pre wedding, but no security prior to the engagement? Same as Kate?

Didn't they say they don't have a budget for Meghan, so she must go work?

@SallyLockheart In February 2006, it was announced that Kate Middleton would receive her own 24-hour security detail from the Royalty and Diplomatic Protection Department. Four years before the engagement.

Maybe the palace are happy to protect H&M as long as they can keep an eye/control what they’re up to.

Maybe H&M want the freedom to safely go where they please, maybe they don’t even trust the palace and it’s staff to maintain their privacy.

It has echoes of Diana. Very messy. Who knows what the truth is.

Yes, that may have happened too. But is that what he was referring to? Since he does not say it.

The report on sky says that the incident with the paps happened as he left a charity event so that is what Harry is referring to in his statement. He mentions leaving a charity event.

news.sky.com/story/duke-of-sussex-seeks-judicial-review-after-home-office-bans-him-from-paying-for-police-protection-for-archie-and-lilibet-in-uk-12517296

Isn't it obvious they make up the rules as they go along?

He wants the optics of being royal (armed outriders) so that it looks suitably royal for his reality tv shows, for that is the basis on which he’s been paid his huge advances. If he was really concerned about security, the family would be living as private citizens at frogmore within the Windsor estate with all the security available (which still didn’t block an intruder last week or so) rather than at a well known address in montecito