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Harry to sue UK governmdnt

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Viviennemary · 15/01/2022 22:37

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding. Shock

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DoubleShotEspresso · 16/01/2022 00:03

@GrouchyKiwi

The reason this has come up now is that Harry's team has asked for a judicial review, according to the BBC. It has just been filed. (On a Saturday? DO they do that?)

Anyway. The police aren't available for public hire. They should share any credible information they have with Harry's security team. (And if they don't do that then that's unacceptable.) I do find it hard to believe that the police can provide better security than a private firm, however.

It was filed in September 2021.
Ylvamoon · 16/01/2022 00:04

I read it as in Harry can't buy UK police intelligence. His team is out of jurisdiction and police services are not for hire.
I guess he has to find a UK based protection team with the right connections.
Probably not as easy as it sounds.
Maybe PA can spare a few guys as he will have to hide away for the foreseeable....

nottodaybatman · 16/01/2022 00:04

*and also like the RF has more energy to deflect from child abuse and pedophilia in their ranks and once again toss out the dog whistle of Harry and Meghan.

Closebrackets · 16/01/2022 00:05

[quote dontsaythj]@Closebrackets

It doesn't matter which part of the police the officers come from (I'd hazard a guess that they're overstretched everywhere, but it's a moot point). The UK police are not available for hire. You think police officers should be told, "you've been hired for the day so you need to take orders of the actress"?[/quote]
I mean you can hire police officers, but anyway. No I don't, I think though that police working in the specialist Royal protection unit wouldnt have an issue with being told- you've got harry today, you know, seen as though last time he was here he was chased by paparazzi and that's how his mum died- he is a target by virtue of the family he was born into, and his team can't carry firearms here which is actually the appropriate level of protection for his family to neutralise an immediate threat if necessary. Oh and isn't he nice he offered to pay even though actually he should be eligible to access it at least for his childrens sake anyway.

HunterGatherer · 16/01/2022 00:05

Harry is clearly a very troubled fella. Not surprising when you look at the state of that family and his early life experiences. He is also an army veteran who lost colleagues and he been the target of neo nazi threats.
I can cut him some slack.
I think he is a hell of a lot more worthy of protection than his uncle.

WhaleSnail · 16/01/2022 00:06

The only person that’s put Harry and his family in extra danger since this whole thing blew up is Harry. Jumping place to place without considering the actual way things would work eg security in Canada, then in US where uk protection officers would have been at risk themselves etc. He then spend the following months and years badmouthing the uk and it’s citizens. HE has increased the risk his family face. I really object to him now using this as an excuse for why his family cannot visit the UK. He’s tainted us all. He should not get uk police protection. We cannot hire our our police to the rich. He must hire private security he can rely on. The police will provide protection and liaise with his private security if there is a credible threat as others have said (they won’t just say fuck it!). He cannot and must not be allowed to think he can hire our police like they are private security. It’s not about taxpayer funded or not it’s the arrogance of thinking he can hire our police abs the lies of saying the uk is unsafe for his family. Bullshit Harry.

dontsaythj · 16/01/2022 00:06

@Flickflak

You realise that this has been reported elsewhere, including the BBC? Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean that it's not credible.

amusedtodeath1 · 16/01/2022 00:06

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UniversalAunt · 16/01/2022 00:07

Elite private security services liaise with the UK police service - that’ll be business as usual otherwise credible threats may be missed.

Still no reason for Harry to directly hire a UK specialist police service, such as the highly trained royal protection team. Is Andrew using this service or is his security detail paid for out of his own pocket?

Bearing in mind this is a DM report, I see this item as a red herring.

That said, Harry’s name is putrid mud in the rank & file of the UK armed forces - he may be a veteran, but he was a toy soldier & ungrateful with it - & many of the elite private security firms are ex UK services, so it may be that there is no rush to bid for his business. Hence the request to being his US security team over which was declined.

With the Royal Jubilee imminent, maybe he’s looking for someone somewhere to provide security so that he can turn up for the jollies.

Harry, always read the small print & listen to what the men in grey when they say to you if you leave like this, then you are left.

LeQuern · 16/01/2022 00:07

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

Can't he just stay in the US if it's safer? He has no reason to be over here anyway.
Apart from his father, brother, grandmother, aunts, uncles etc.
Fredshred · 16/01/2022 00:08

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GrouchyKiwi · 16/01/2022 00:08

Ah, thanks DoubleShot. I missed that on first read. That does make the timing of the article seem rather suss, unless the review hearing (if it is going ahead) is next week.

Georgeskitchen · 16/01/2022 00:09

@sashagabadon

Can other private individuals pay themselves for U.K. police intelligence/ security when in U.K.?
I would highly doubt it
Veeveeoxox · 16/01/2022 00:09

@DarkDarkNight

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-home-office-police-protection-b1993962.html

A source other than the Daily Fail for a bit of balance.

He wants to pay for Uk security while in the UK which sounds perfectly reasonable. Nobody can argue he and his family are not going to be big targets for the rest of their lives. He is arguing about jurisdiction and also access to Intelligence regarding threats to his family.

I know hating him seems to be a national sport but he is entitled to want the best security for his family. He is entitled to not have paparazzi chasing him especially given how his mother died.

The police is a public service he doesn't get to pay for it just because he can. We do not have a 2 tier policing system , he can hire a private security detail in the UK like every other celeb does.
Intheopinionofourexpert · 16/01/2022 00:09

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DarkDarkNight · 16/01/2022 00:10

Can other private individuals pay themselves for U.K. police intelligence/ security when in U.K.?

Are other private individuals at such a great risk of harm?

PinkWednesdays · 16/01/2022 00:10

@DarkDarkNight

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-home-office-police-protection-b1993962.html

A source other than the Daily Fail for a bit of balance.

He wants to pay for Uk security while in the UK which sounds perfectly reasonable. Nobody can argue he and his family are not going to be big targets for the rest of their lives. He is arguing about jurisdiction and also access to Intelligence regarding threats to his family.

I know hating him seems to be a national sport but he is entitled to want the best security for his family. He is entitled to not have paparazzi chasing him especially given how his mother died.

Thank you for posting this. Quite often with Harry, people ignore the facts in search of another juicy Harry hating story.
amusedtodeath1 · 16/01/2022 00:10

He didn't care much about his family when he was trashing them and the institution on TV though did he. He only cares when it suits him

GreenLunchBox · 16/01/2022 00:11

I don't know what else the UK police do. They can't even be arsed to investigate law breaking when they're handed the evidence in black and white 🤔

nottodaybatman · 16/01/2022 00:11

Speaking out against racism is not badmouthing
His new born son was compared to a chimp. The RF said nothing, a new born child with mixed black mother was compared to an ape. It was and is disgusting and should have been called out.

The RF rolled up its sleeves and went to bat for Andrew, hell they even corrected stories about Kate having extensions but never once called out the racism.

The RF have shown their priorities to the whole world. Harry was defending his wife and child from the most base and vice racism

FYI Danny Baker who compared new born archie to a chimpanzee is still employed by the BBC!

LeQuern · 16/01/2022 00:11

Ps. Harry is a really grown up, mature version of a person born into unimaginable wealth and privilege. If I were him I’d be doing what he do.

amusedtodeath1 · 16/01/2022 00:13

Why does he deserve not to be followed by the paps? Bearing in mind you can only be chased if you run away from something?

If he doesn't speed up there's no danger other than someone might get a photo of him. He's courted this controversy, of course the paps are interested.

dontsaythj · 16/01/2022 00:14

@Closebrackets

Wrong. Approved organisations and events can pay for extra policing, on approval. Not private individuals.

"His mum died in France over two decades ago being followed by the paparazzi that she courted" - this is relevant to the UK police being made available for hire by a private family how? Total non sequitur.

amusedtodeath1 · 16/01/2022 00:14

If he just got on with his own life and stopped trading gossip for money no one would give a flying fart what he does.

cherryonthecakes · 16/01/2022 00:16

I interpreted this as Harry wants to pay for UK police protection when he visits the UK because they can get security info that his US team can't.

Can VIPs pay for UK police protection or not? I've seen posts say yes and no to this but surely they are a scarce resource limited to citizens and VIPs like heads of state visiting from overseas on business?

The Cambridges managed to travel to Jordan and France without the public knowing until after the fact. I'm guessing that they took their own security rather than had local security because it was leisure?