Harry to sue UK governmdnt

[Viviennemary]

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding.

@GrandmasCat

I’m sure there are a lot of rich private citizens in the UK that would like to be able to pay for intelligence for their own security and do not have the right.

Harry decided to become a private citizen when he step down so he needs to abide by rules like one.

Except anyone else cam. Read the thread.

Snowdrop your post and defence of Andrew made me laugh out loud!

Oh yeah... he adores his Mother, that's why he's inflicted the horrendous damage imaginable on the Monarchy.

Anything Harry does just pales into insignificance compared to Andrew.

I read he bows and kisses her hand every time he goes into a room and she's there. I bet he does! He knows how much she has protecte d his vile repuation over the years!

All that will change when she's gone. Good!

You missed off the rest of the "fuss about nothing" remark "rubicscubicle"
I agree completely that there are some crazy people out there, but again, Harry would naturally be protected alongside the rest of them if they're together - and if they're not, what's he planning on doing here anyway since he's made it so clear that many aspects of the UK aren't to his taste?

@BoredZelda

It's not because they won't pay for him, it's because they won't let Harry use the UK police/ intelligence, even when paying with his own money.

Seems fair enough. Anyone else can do this, why can’t he?

Because I would say yes absolutely due to his birth risk, but then if they are going to continue to pursue this kind of half celeb/ half wannabe politician status then where does the obligation stop when the crown has no control over the level of risk they may be creating?

He is at risk purely because of his royal links. That doesn’t change no matter what he does.

No, anyone else can't do it.

Approved organisations and events can (subject to approval). We don't however, have a two-tier policing system where limited resources can be co-opted by wealthy individuals buying a superior level of service.

Man United paying for extra policing of a large public like a football match attended by tens of thousands, and a wealthy individual paying to have police on hand 24/7 are entirely different situations.

He should visit his close family. All of whom have Royal Protection. Quite simply this isn’t the same security as Madonna or other VIPs. It’s security reserved for working Royals!

But I understand now.

Andrew has made some bad decisions but is devoted to his mother, so gets a semi-free pass.
(raping trafficked teenagers is apparently just a bad decision)

Harry has left the country (how dare he!!).
Harry criticised his family in public (Charles and others have done the same but lets not mention that)
Harry is now asking to pay British police to provide security he will pay for (anyone can legally request that, it is set out in the laws, but lets pretend he is the only one)
Harry thinks he and his family are at risk in the UK (yes we all hate him and slag him off, and a Neo Nazi was sentenced to jail because of threats against him, but how dare he think he is important enough to be at risk)
Harry broke the Queen's heart (not Andrew, because he visits her daily)

Blair pays for police security when visiting for holidays.

[quote KatherineofGaunt]It's not because they won't pay for him, it's because they won't let Harry use the UK police/ intelligence, even when paying with his own money.

metro.co.uk/2022/01/15/prince-harry-fears-family-not-safe-in-uk-as-he-files-police-protection-claim-15925311/[/quote]
Do other private wealthy citizens get to use this?

Sorry, citizens who live abroad? Genuine question.

@AllThePogs
Yes. And don't forget toadying Andrew's bowing and kissing Mama's hand.

And isn't it funny... if you dig and delve it is out there that Harry had and still has a close relationship with the Queen. But that gets buried of course because it doesn't fit with the Agenda that he has almost single handedly destroyed the Monarchy.
Never mind Andrew and anything he has done... he takes tea with his Mother, so all is good!

@Puzzledandpissedoff

You missed off the rest of the "fuss about nothing" remark "rubicscubicle" I agree completely that there are some crazy people out there, but again, Harry would naturally be protected alongside the rest of them if they're together - and if they're not, what's he planning on doing here anyway since he's made it so clear that many aspects of the UK aren't to his taste?

I did not miss anything. I quoted your post.

Are you saying Harry must take a member of the rf every time he goes out to see other relatives, friends, old colleagues etc. when he is in the UK?

How odd.

@Snowdropsinourforest

Trust me Harry will be held accountable for the terrible things he has inflicted on this own family, and that time is coming sooner than perhaps some of us think.

There are plenty of security plans to be made for bigger celebrities than Harry and Meghan here in the UK every day of the week! Who do you think Madonna hires? Or Taylor Swift when she comes over or any of the other A listers, with far larger profiles (and risks) than Harry. It is entirely doable, they just don't want to.

It suits them perfectly to hide behind the only excuse they have left.

Andrew for all of his endless despicable weaknesses and faults, at the very least has been a constant companion and adores his mother, he visits her every day and even lives in the grounds. He has made some horrendous decisions and is very slow witted, but no one questions his utter loyal devotion to the Queen, and she enjoys his company nonetheless.

The proverbial shit is going to hit the fan soon for H&M whom I suspect have realised they do not have the funds to bankroll their A lister lifestyle and will soon reap what they have sown.

Exactly my thoughts.

• The A-list movie roles "She can even do voice-overs!" haven't materialised.

• People got bored very quickly of his therapy-speak, woke jargon pity parties. They haven't been able to produce much material for Spotify/Netflix. I assume that those deals are dependent on output.

• Public profiles waning. They'd essentially been forgotten about, memories consigned to a couple of undignified interviews and then Harry's excruciating, shoulder-tapping, documentary on his 'intergenerational trauma'.

How long could two multi-millionaires dine out on being victims, really? Especially given that one of them is the very embodiment of every kind of privilege possible.
Their embarassing UN stunt summed it up; on what basis were they owed a visit to the UN? One inherited a privilege position, the other married into it. They aren't elected representatives of anyone, nor would ordinary private citizens (as they claim to want to be) get this treatment. Privilege.
"Oh look at us with out little ring binders acting like we're in House of Cards".

They're essentially a pair of reality-stars at this point. This kind of nonsense keeps their profiles up.

@Roussette I am not even a "fan" of Harry and Meghan. But what gets posted is so bloody ridiculous.

Exactly AllThePogs
Some people on here are terribly worked up about them, it's not good for their sanity!

@GrandmasCat

Just like uncle Andy did

Great summary @dontsaythj. I'm baffled by those who blindly defend them at this point.

I am baffled by those who rabidly hate the Sussexes but have no energy for the RF and their game playing with the media.

Are you saying Harry must take a member of the rf every time he goes out to see other relatives, friends, old colleagues etc. when he is in the UK?

How odd

Well I suppose it's like choosing to leave an exclusive club or job. You don't get any of the perks of belonging afterwards but you could always get invited in to take advantage for a day here or there by those who still belong.

I am baffled with how there are posters criticising Harry for wanting to pay for his own security, yet happy to have Andrew's paid for. Not by him.
Baffled I tell you!

Are you saying Harry must take a member of the rf every time he goes out to see other relatives, friends, old colleagues etc. when he is in the UK?

Not at all, though you'll probably try to turn it into one those "she might have meant - so she must have done - so she did" things
There's nothing to stop him buying private security in the UK, but overall I'm just genuinely surprised if he's planning to be here at all and wondered what it's for, especially as there's now nothing to stop folk visiting him in beautiful SoCal

Or maybe he's not planning to come at all and this is just another claim to victimhood, as in he'd love to visit but those nasty Brits have baulked him again

Moving on from Harry though, I wonder if allowing folk to buy police protection would be such a bad idea - after all Special Forces do consultancy for the very powerful worldwide and no doubt make a packet out of it
I appreciate the issues around taking police off other things, but surely they could recruit even more with the money that could easily be made?

@Roussette

I am baffled with how there are posters criticising Harry for wanting to pay for his own security, yet happy to have Andrew's paid for. Not by him. Baffled I tell you!

I haven't mentioned Andrew throughout this entire thread because it's not about him. I'll post on the multiple PA threads if I want to discuss that unpleasant individual.

So people are angry because Harry, who is and always will be a high profile target due to his birth and is also a target to racist nutters because of his wife, wants to pay for police protection out of his own pocket to ensure he and his family are as safe as possible when he comes back here.

I swear some people on here would love it if they were attacked. It’s a bit sick really.

@Roussette

I am baffled with how there are posters criticising Harry for wanting to pay for his own security, yet happy to have Andrew's paid for. Not by him. Baffled I tell you!

I've specifically said that I want to see Andrew in court, and that he should have all public funded resources stopped.

This thread isn't about him.