Why is Andrew allegedly the Queen's "favourite son"?

[Stiffcondomhat]

I have read this a few times over the years and yesterday mentioned in most media outlets.
The Queen seems like a sensible sort with good judgement, and he has this reputation as a sleazy lazy twonk.
Of course I know from mn about the golden child syndrome who is actually pretty useless, but surely the Queen is above such things?
If anyone has any ideas on this I'd love to know because I'm stumped! (I'm also procrastinating because I'm on a deadline)

@IcedPurple

This is 'Porchie' when he was about the same age as Andrew is now.

I don't really see a resemblance. Porchie was less jowly for one thing.

He reminds me of Michael Angelis in that pic!

Of course he doesn’t have a different father, what a terrible thing to speculate on. 😱

@upinaballoon

When Harry was small I thought he might have been the child of JH but as his face has grown older I look at the set of his eyes and eyebrows and bridge of nose and then at the same parts of the faces of George VI and the Queen and PC and I definitely think Harry is theirs.

I think Harry is the absolute spit of DofE, particularly around the eyes.

Neither Charles nor Edward are manly men or boys, which both the Queen and Phillip seem to prefer. Andrew is a manly type of man. He enjoyed the services and actively fought in service. Enjoyed traditional boys sports.

@Ricksteinsfishwife

Of course he doesn’t have a different father, what a terrible thing to speculate on. 😱

It is very insulting to the women isn't it (Queen & Diana) to think that not only did they have an affair but also a child which they have passed off as their husband's!

@starlight13

I think it's because 'porchy' is his father and not the DOEdinburgh. There is a large age gap between Anne and Andrew when DOE was having all of his flings/affairs. She quickly had Edward after to try and blend Andrew in but look at Charles, Anne and Edward and then look at Andrew. He is not the DOE son.

what complete nonsense.

You really believe that?

You only have to know a tiny bit about the Queen to know that Philip was the only man for her.

And as Philip used to say, when could he have had time for an affair? He had PP with him all the time.

Maybe take up writing fantasy novels @starlight13. it's your genre.

@diddl I am not arguing that Lord Porchester is Andrew's father.
But you are also assuming that if he was, the Queen would have lied to Phillip.
It is equally plausible that Phillip knew. Not everyone has the same kind of marriage.

I thought that Andrew was her favourite because he was the result of her reunion with Philip after he had been having a love affair elsewhere for quite some time. So Andrew symbolises the durability of their marriage, that Philip came back to her. I don’t believe there was anyone else for her, it just wouldn’t be acceptable.

@Anotherhill

How old are you OP? Because when I was much younger Andrew was the good looking helicopter pilot fought for his country and seemed less stuffy and more fun than Charles. Obviously never met any of them but that was my teenage impression in the early 80s.

My mum always wanted me to marry Prince Andrew!

[quote AllThePogs]@diddl I am not arguing that Lord Porchester is Andrew's father.
But you are also assuming that if he was, the Queen would have lied to Phillip.
It is equally plausible that Phillip knew. Not everyone has the same kind of marriage.[/quote]
Philip was a very macho type who was famously butt hurt over the fact that 'I'm the only man in the country whose children won't bear his name'. Hence the invention of the Mountbatten-Windsor surname.

He would very much have minded if the boy who for many years was only one helicopter crash away from the throne might not be his. Sure, he could put it about, but his wife? No way! And other than vague 'rumours', and more recent innuendo from 'The Crown', what evidence is there really that the queen stepped out with 'Porchie'?

"Andrew is the second son, fated never to be king, bound to slide down the order of succession, sure to be resentful of his older brother and of the restrictions a royal lives with.
The Queen may have tried to make it up to him by assuring him he was special to her in spite of the fact that he came second to Charles"

You could be talking about Harry, Diana and William here.
The only difference is, for all his misjudged tell all books etc, at least Harry is forging his own way in life.

Why didn't my ** work?

@Stiffcondomhat

Oh goodness I'd forgotten about the fake sheik biz. I clearly need to brush up on my Royals.

That was a very long time ago, since then they have hardly put a foot wrong. Are we not allowed a mistake? Apparently it was planned that he would become the Duke of Edinburgh after the D of E's death but Charles is blocking it. After the departures of Harry and Andrew I was wondering if Edward and Sophie's children will be called upon to take a bigger royal role than originally planned. Only time will tell.

@IcedPurple I am not arguing that Porchester is Andrews father.
To be honest I don't care. I think it is a private family matter.
But I simply don't believe those who say there is no physical resemblance. There quite clearly is. But as I have also said, a physical resemblance itself proves nothing.

@Justkeeppedaling

*"Andrew is the second son, fated never to be king, bound to slide down the order of succession, sure to be resentful of his older brother and of the restrictions a royal lives with. The Queen may have tried to make it up to him by assuring him he was special to her in spite of the fact that he came second to Charles"*

You could be talking about Harry, Diana and William here.
The only difference is, for all his misjudged tell all books etc, at least Harry is forging his own way in life.

If any of her children should be resentful it's Anne, she was pushed down the batting order simply because she is female yet she continues to support HM without complaint. Many years ago I think I heard an interview when she was asked about this and her response was along the lines of Why get bothered by things you can't change? Very sensible woman.

@JudgeJ It was planned? By who?
It is quite clear that Edward and Sophie are lobbying for them and their children to play a far bigger role in the Royal family.

Personally, I don't care. But I do hope they are unsuccessful in lobbying for Louise to play a bigger role. I think with her eye squint she will face a hard time in the public eye and she is too young to face that kind of vile criticism.

@JudgeJ And Anne is hard working taking many of the unglamorous engagements. She isn't at the Centre Court tennis matches or the Golf Club dinners.

When Charles & Anne were babies/toddlers, the Queen (then Princess Elizabeth) and Prince Philip lived in Malta where Philip was stationed for his naval career.
The children remained in England, cared for by staff.

So Andrew would have been the first of her children the Queen had any regular interaction with when they were small, which could account for him being her favourite, if indeed he is.

@RestingStitchFace

The Harry/Hewitt thing is just ridiculous at this point. It's been proven that Hewitt only met Diana after Harry's birth and the timeline of Diana's pregnancy etc strongly suggests Harry was conceived when Diana and Charles were on a royal tour in Australia so we're not even on the same continent as Hewitt! Harry's hair etc comes from the Spencer side. Strong resemblance between Harry and one of Diana's sisters, Lady Sarah.

There are a couple of photos in circulation of Philip as a young sailor with a beard and one of Harry at a similar age with a beard, I could hardly decide which was which.www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/news/a41157/prince-philip-and-prince-harry-similarities/

Before he turned into a middled aged pompous bore I think he was quite a nice person. Princess Diana is quoted as saying "Andy is the best of the bunch".

When Charles returned from that school he hated in Australia , the Queen was at Victoria Station to greet. She shook his hand as if he was some foreign dignitary. Perhaps it's true that she was more relaxed by the time Andrew was born and actually enjoyed mothering him He must have sailed?

[quote AllThePogs]@JudgeJ It was planned? By who?
It is quite clear that Edward and Sophie are lobbying for them and their children to play a far bigger role in the Royal family.

Personally, I don't care. But I do hope they are unsuccessful in lobbying for Louise to play a bigger role. I think with her eye squint she will face a hard time in the public eye and she is too young to face that kind of vile criticism.[/quote]
What a vile thing to say, do you think people with squints should be hidden away. Maybe she could demonstrate to people that you shouldn't judge on something like having a squint.

I am two years younger than Prince Andrew and in the 1970s and early 1980s, especially after the Falklands conflict, I would have married him if asked. A much more manly bloke than his brothers and so good-looking. I suspect the Queen saw the same things in her son that she loved in Prince Philip. Later events and allegations don't wipe away that golden effect.

You only have to know a tiny bit about the Queen to know that Philip was the only man for her. Exactly. I was on another thread which claimed that The Queen was groomed by Prince Philip. The nonsense on here is unbelievable.
I feel sorry for Harry and all this speculation about his parentage. How nasty. I'm sure he had to endure horrible jokes at school about it

News rags hypothetical telepathy of knowing what the queen felt.
You can love dc differently (because of the dc personality or the stage of marriage & life when you had them & structure of family at that time or disability or need) but that does not mean you love one more than the other.
For some parents there is the golden child syndrome, I agree, & some dc as they grow & develop into adulthood remain emotionally close while others become entwined with life & others can amuse & socialize with their parents easier
But you cannot see into her head