Prince Charles environmentalist flew to Scotland

[RoyalFamilyFan]

Camilla and Charles flew by private jet to Scotland for New Year. This was a private trip. Why couldn't they get the train?
So much for him supposedly being an environmentalist.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-charles-camilla-spotted-driving-25818819

No I'm saying they were working on the lines, don't think even a royal train can run on lines that are getting work done. No trains on Sundays for weeks either not just New Year's Day. I wasn't having a go at you in the slightest I'm commenting in general on how scotland seems to be perceived on a lot of threads.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@thehillswerebright I know Scotland, please don't patronise me as being an idiot who doesn't know what they are talking about. Sunday was New Years Day, of course there weren't commercial trains running.
You do know the Royal Family don't necessarily travel on commercial trains? You do know there is a British Royal Train that doesn't run to a timetable? Because the way you are talking it sounds as if you think I am saying they should hop on the 11.18am from Kings Cross and hope to find a free seat and that the train isn't delayed so they can make their change.
They would go up on the Royal Train. A private luxury train that would run at a time to suit them. Timetables are totally irrelevant.[/quote]
So an entire train and a network of rails, crossings and stations all organised to to the need to love of a couple people?

That would be a bigger undertaking than you seem to think.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@derxa so how did Catherine and William manage a train journey to Scotland during a lockdown if covid and security are an issue? Or were they reckless to do this journey during a covid lockdown?[/quote]
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nicola-sturgeon-tried-block-kate-23129603
They certainly annoyed Oor Nikla and anything that annoys Nikla is fine by me. The police are raiding pubs and arresting people for dancing. No wonder Prince Charles is keeping away from public transport in Scotland

@thehillswerebright

No I'm saying they were working on the lines, don't think even a royal train can run on lines that are getting work done. No trains on Sundays for weeks either not just New Year's Day. I wasn't having a go at you in the slightest I'm commenting in general on how scotland seems to be perceived on a lot of threads.

Okay sorry, I misunderstood you. I know people who travelled by train to Scotland for New Year. They didn't come back on New Years Day. But a combination of train and chauffeur driven car would have worked.

@MaryAndHerNet and yet it was managed for William and Catherine during an actual lockdown and with the Scottish Minister against their visit. Obviously not as difficult as you think.

And the Queen used to regularly travel by Royal Train to Scotland.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@MaryAndHerNet and yet it was managed for William and Catherine during an actual lockdown and with the Scottish Minister against their visit. Obviously not as difficult as you think.

And the Queen used to regularly travel by Royal Train to Scotland.[/quote]
She's called the First Minister of Scotland not the 'Scottish Minister'.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@MaryAndHerNet and yet it was managed for William and Catherine during an actual lockdown and with the Scottish Minister against their visit. Obviously not as difficult as you think.

And the Queen used to regularly travel by Royal Train to Scotland.[/quote]
You don't quite get it do you?
I CBA to explain it to you in very simple terms.

I will say this.
Trains don't just use a driver peddling the train. The rail network isn't autonomous.

I hope that gives.you enough of a clue to work it out.

@MaryAndHerNet And I thought the national rail network was just like Thomas the Tank Engine. Thank you for explaining that the drivers don't pedal the train.

Who can talk about climate change please?

He does use the train sometimes because I was delayed recently on a (very expensive) train journey while we waited for the bloody royal train to pass. Don’t mind us your highness. Several hundreds of people who have paid hard earned money for their trip will wait around missing god knows what connections and appointments while you swan on through.

Can you tell I was cross?

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@MaryAndHerNet And I thought the national rail network was just like Thomas the Tank Engine. Thank you for explaining that the drivers don't pedal the train.[/quote]
You're welcome.

Drivers, engineers, multiple station masters, multiple signal workers, multiple rail inspectors, multiple rail workers, safety marshals, rail police, electrical supply engineers so on and so on.
Lots and lots of people needed to move just a single train.
Not to mention the maintenance crew checking the train before departure, the people working on board to serve and handle luggage.
Not to menton the electrical workers at the plant that supplies the network its energy and adapts the consumption to the irregular need for an unscheduled train.

All those people..
all those commutes..

all those uniforms to wash..

What rubs people up the wrong way with this is they influence and advocate for all these changes, and who pays for it? We do. The people who don't have s much money as they do. Look at all the green taxes we're paying. It's all well and good sayin we need to be all electric cars but not everyone can afford it. Are they going to give them away for free to help people? No of course not, it either means people's choice of travel is reduced, made harder, more expensive and puts pressure and strain on finances.

They don't have these worries.

That’s a different conversation though Spectre, although if you want to abolish the royal family I’ll be right behind you.

We need as many people as possible speaking up about climate change. And we need to get rid of this stupid idea that it’s all or nothing - you have to live a 100% ethically perfect life or you’re a hypocrite. We need everyone doing their big, everyone making small changes, and more people in the public eye talking about it.

@BitOutOfPractice more likely to be the Queen. She seems to have always used the Royal Train to travel. She has only used helicopters in the last year. She may not be physically able to get on the train anym ore without a wheelchair?

@MaryAndHerNet they must not like Charles and Camilla then if they wont work to enable the Royal Train to travel to Scotland to carry them,. but will work to enable the Royal Train to take the Queen, William and Catherine to Scotland. Strange that.

The Royal family are possibly the most hypocritical group of people when it comes to the environment

@anniegun

The Royal family are possibly the most hypocritical group of people when it comes to the environment

Who isn’t though?

@Pumperthepumper almost anyone I can think of.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@Pumperthepumper almost anyone I can think of.[/quote]
Let’s hear them then. Who can talk about climate change?

@Pumperthepumper anyone can talk to their friends and family about climate change. If you want to be lauded in the press as an environmentalist and speak at Cop 26, then I expect far more.

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@Pumperthepumper anyone can talk to their friends and family about climate change. If you want to be lauded in the press as an environmentalist and speak at Cop 26, then I expect far more.[/quote]
So who spoke at COP26 who lives an ethically perfect life? You’re strangely reluctant to give these names over. Who can we hold up as ethically perfect?

@Pumperthepumper what is Charles actually doing? What are his claims to be an environmentalist founded on apart from some gardening?
He and William use climate change to boost their own status. That is all it is about.

I'm more concerned that he is responsible for vast tracts of land, and manages a lot of them for shooting rather than biodiversity. The Royal Family are uniquely placed to combat climate change by rewilding some of the enormous amounts of land they own, and although the Crown Estates recently agreed to meet with rewilding campaigners, the Duchy of Cornwall notably did not

[quote RoyalFamilyFan]@Pumperthepumper what is Charles actually doing? What are his claims to be an environmentalist founded on apart from some gardening?
He and William use climate change to boost their own status. That is all it is about.[/quote]
Ñames of anyone else? Come on now, you must be able to back up your argument - who isn’t a hypocrite?

@crackofdoom

I'm more concerned that he is responsible for vast tracts of land, and manages a lot of them for shooting rather than biodiversity. The Royal Family are uniquely placed to combat climate change by rewilding some of the enormous amounts of land they own, and although the Crown Estates recently agreed to meet with rewilding campaigners, the Duchy of Cornwall notably did not

What is rewilding? Explain it to me.