Prince William

[adrianmolesmole]

can fuck right off. Why is it when overpopulation is talked about the implication is always that there's too many black or brown people? Not to mention the hypocrisy of him having 3 kids himself. It makes me sick.

www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/24/prince-william-remarks-on-africa-population-growth-spark-backlash

@ChurchofLatterDayPaints

PW is thick, blinkered, racist, ignorant, greedy and hypocritical, like his fans, his family and the people who give him airtime. Enough listening to these cretins.

He's nicer to listen to than you!

@Viviennemary

Its cheeky. Ok for him with tens of thousands of acres all over the country owned by his family. He is the wrong person to have made this kind of speech.

You're talking about it because he made the speech. If that publicises the plight of wild animals, I'm sure he's happy to take the criticism.

You don't think there's a single ridiculously wealthy family in africa sending their kids to foreign boarding schools, jetting round the world on business trips and holidays, living in giant houses, driving massive cars. That might be having more of an impact than PWs family?
Africa isn't full of poor people living in shacks and washing their clothes in a river you know...

The above comment is a distraction there are relatively few cases of these as we all know but this does not make the impact that PW is trying to highlight. Less then 1% of Africans in sub sahara live like this and while not everything is poor housing and inadequate healthcare a significant majority are living in sever poverty Globally The excess of everything imaginable is from the West. Africans have a good grasp on recycling their local products - what they are not able to recycle is waste that is dumped on their shores by other countries. Maybe PW could use his talking skills and profile to jump on the fair trade campaign and actively encourage fair payment to African farmers for goods they work hard to produce.

@Madisonbridges You're talking about it because he made the speech. If that publicises the plight of wild animals, I'm sure he's happy to take the criticism.

Unfortunately most of us are not talking about the need to look after the animals. We are talking about a pompous prince who is annoying! Which should prove the point.

Let him know will you?

He strikes me as a person looking for a campaign who has hitched his wagon to this one. "Cause Hot Topic 'n all......

If you have connections to any part of Africa then it’s an even stupider and more ignorant remark. As several people have pointed out

Says you, the armchair expert.

When I heard this, I took it differently. In many places in the world wildlife comes into conflict with human habitations - eg. in India people live in villages close to where tigers also live. In parts of Africa farmland is often encroached upon by elephants, or cattle are killed by lions. I imagine he was referring to how human population growth impacts wildlife because of pressure on land - more villages or more cattle grazing areas, for example.

Except of course he’s totally right. Africa’s exponential population growth is causing a major wildlife crises (and it was already pretty bad).

Prince William is right like it or not, if African people are having kids at way above replacement level it will cause problems for wildlife, resources and all kinds of things really.

It’s not “woke” to say it but some poorer countries/continents are having children at an average rate which was appropriate when child mortality was high, but modern medicine has caught up even in troubled countries and now child mortality is low it’s no longer a good idea for everyone to be having five or six kids. I’m not saying no one can but not everyone.

If it isn’t talked about and solved now then something drastic will happen later like what happened in China with the one child policy and horrible forced sterilisation.

At least Prince William actually thinks about these things and cares unlike our other simple Prince who is more interested in campaigning for sympathy behind his wife on Oprah.

All the people saying it’s “tone deaf” coming from Prince William need to get over themselves. You all might as well be royalty compared to a lot of people in Africa too and I’m sure most of you have a hell of a carbon footprint compared to them as well.

@HyacynthBucket

When I heard this, I took it differently. In many places in the world wildlife comes into conflict with human habitations - eg. in India people live in villages close to where tigers also live. In parts of Africa farmland is often encroached upon by elephants, or cattle are killed by lions. I imagine he was referring to how human population growth impacts wildlife because of pressure on land - more villages or more cattle grazing areas, for example.

agreed. William is talking in context of wildlife conservation in Africa and does say this is a challenge that is happening elsewhere in the world.

For all those posters frothing, do you really not care about the extinction of thousands of species caused by the rapid expansion of human activity and the destruction of the native habitat of those creature now living closer to human habitations?

David Attenborough says the same thing and no one bats an eyelid it's happening worldwide. I don't think anyone wants to hear Prince William lecturing about the environment when he drives gas guzzlers and uses private jets it's the same as Harry.

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow

Embarrassing. Like his father, he seems to think that being born royal has genetically made him an expert on everything. It's like Dave in the pub pontificating about climate change because he's just watched 5 Tiktoks about it, except that Dave - thankfully - isn't given an international platform and fawning media coverage.

If Princess Anne wants to give a speech about riding or being an Olympian: she can crack on - she'd actually know what she's talking about. The rest of them should stick to cutting ribbons.

Couldn't have said it better myself

There's an anti William campaign running at the moment but this comment isn't wrong or unpleasant in fact it's an opinion held by many. 10/10 for spite 0/10 for integrity OP try again.

Stepping back here, what do posters think about all the charitable foundations set up by the likes of Bill and Melinda Gates, Jeff Bezos, the Obamas etc. Should the world refuse their contributions to worthy causes because they use private jets and live in huge mansions.

The Gates foundation pledged 1.5billion dollars to climate initiatives this year and gave 250m dollars to Covid initiatives last year. Bill Gates owns four private jets. Should those contributions to the well-being of millions be dismissed because he own four private jets?

@Whingasaurus

There's an anti William campaign running at the moment but this comment isn't wrong or unpleasant in fact it's an opinion held by many. 10/10 for spite 0/10 for integrity OP try again.

Clearly. In the press comments have been made by omid Scobie who we know has a great association with true, honesty and clarity……

@Whingasaurus

There's an anti William campaign running at the moment but this comment isn't wrong or unpleasant in fact it's an opinion held by many. 10/10 for spite 0/10 for integrity OP try again.

Spot on.

The royal family have huge estates that could be returned to natural habitat but are kept bald so they can use them for shooting and hunting. Maybe he should look in his own back yard first.

@EnidFrighten

The royal family have huge estates that could be returned to natural habitat but are kept bald so they can use them for shooting and hunting. Maybe he should look in his own back yard first.

Balmoral is 50000 acres and is a managed estate and a productive farm for forestry and farmland including deer. Highland cattle and ponies. It is not 50000 acres of grouse shooting land.

The sandringham estate is 21000 acres and Charles since taking it over in 2017 is converting it to a fully organic system.

@EnidFrighten

The royal family have huge estates that could be returned to natural habitat but are kept bald so they can use them for shooting and hunting. Maybe he should look in his own back yard first.

Totally agree.

David Attenborough said this years ago

I'm assuming he is an ignorant knobber too

@LuluBlakey1

What he said is absolutely true. He was speaking at Tusk- an organisation about conservation in Africa- he spoke about it being a whole world issue and focussed on the situation in the country where the organisation is trying to conserve habitats and species. Can't see the problem.

This. I can't get worked up about it really.

He has been a patron of this charity since 2005.

I am not a fan of the royal family in any shape or form but I cant view him making a speach at a charity award ceremony for conservation in africa (presumablyhhe was invvited to do so and the charity has previously gained out of his patronage,) in the same way as him deciding to moralise and lecture out of nowhere.

Prince William is not right , Africans have been living alongside wildlife for a very long time. It’s amazing how these wildlife conservationists were the same ones trophy hunting in the colonial era. Most Africans are giving him a good dragging on twitter for this and rightly so.

@HyacynthBucket

When I heard this, I took it differently. In many places in the world wildlife comes into conflict with human habitations - eg. in India people live in villages close to where tigers also live. In parts of Africa farmland is often encroached upon by elephants, or cattle are killed by lions. I imagine he was referring to how human population growth impacts wildlife because of pressure on land - more villages or more cattle grazing areas, for example.

So much this… you put my thoughts so much clearer than I could.

It made me think on a smaller scale about how U.K. urbanisation (particularly new build houses with small, sanitised gardens and high brick walls) makes it harder for British hedgehog populations. Affordable housing in the U.K. is also a problem. Would someone like Chris packham be a hypocrite if he pointed this out while living in a larger, rural property?

I think its a real shame. It just shows how having the wrong person give out awards can ruin something. I presume tusk will look for a new patron now. As i say, i totally get the reaction around colonialism but I feel quite sorry for the winners that the focus has been on this rather than their achievements, which sound really good.

Zulu. So what are most Africans doing about the issue? Or don’t they care about the survival of wildlife?