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Meghan Markle ANL court appeal. Thread 2.

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catinboots123 · 13/11/2021 21:15

For those that are interested - I know I am.

Does anyone know when the appeal judgement will be made.

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rubicscubicle · 14/11/2021 19:29

@Gwrach

For the general lay person who isn't hell bent on doing mental gymnastics to defend some narcissistic woman the statement

"We had no involvement with the book" means just that.

No, NADA, ziltch.

Not a email thread and then needing to apologise to a court of law for "misleading them"

The woman told a fib, she's a big fibber in a giant red froc. Just live with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

According to your reasoning :

The queen is a big fibber for saying she has two birthdays when there is technically no such thing as being born twice. Also she is a fibber for suddenly 'remembering' regarding Paul B.

As you put it :

The woman told a fib, she's a big fibber in a cane and crown. Just live with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

StormzyinaTCup · 14/11/2021 19:36

The queen is a big fibber for saying she has two birthdays when there is technically no such thing as being born twice. Also she is a fibber for suddenly 'remembering' regarding Paul B.

Well as far as I'm aware (you can obviously correct me if I'm wrong) theQueen has not gone before court and signed a statement that says she has been born twice. On the Paul Burrell case I'm not really up on that but again I don't think she was stood in court at the time (PB was).

smilesy · 14/11/2021 19:37

The queen is a big fibber for saying she has two birthdays when there is technically no such thing as being born twice. Also she is a fibber for suddenly 'remembering' regarding Paul B.

Your first point there is just silly. There is a historical and well documented reason for the two birthdays, which was nothing to do with the current monarch. As to the second point, it was explained on the previous thread as to why the Queen’s new evidence came to light in the Burrell case. So no comparison at all.

myrtleWilson · 14/11/2021 19:41

rubics you do yourself such a disservice with posts like "the queen is a big fibber because she has two birthdays" Honestly - ridiculous hyperbole runs the risk of undermining any sensible points you may make.

PurpleOkapi · 14/11/2021 19:45

I'm still trying to figure out why Meghan would have purposely not told Knauf about her trip to Toronto before leaving because she was afraid Knauf would tell the media, then tell Knauf about it while she was still in Toronto (when Knauf leaking it to the media would still have defeated the purpose of not telling him), then tell Scobie about it a few days after returning. So much for keeping it out of the media.

rubicscubicle · 14/11/2021 19:47

The queen makes the whole country celebrate her birthday twice. It does not matter if it's historical, history gets corrected, that is why we no longer have slavery.

And you fully understand my point, even if you will act obtuse.

If you are going to be understanding and lenient about other people and see the context, you should do the same with MM. You cannot fling names at her that you would not dream of flinging at others. She is not some kind of sub human.

smilesy · 14/11/2021 19:48

@PurpleOkapi he was I Tonga at the time she was in Toronto I believe, so if he was away anyway he wouldn’t have needed to know she was not there either iyswim. Not sure I’ve explained that very well 🤔🤣

Gwrach · 14/11/2021 19:48

The queen has never said to multiple platforms, "I was born twice"

She has her birth day (actual day of birth)

And then there's the Official Monarchs Birthday. Historically always held in accordance with the trooping of the colour in the summer, and has been so since 1748.

It's not something old maj invented for a second party.

Mind you my brother has more birthdays than the queen. He's a Christmas day baby. So he has his family birthday celebration on Christmas Eve to seperate the gift giving from Christmas day, then it's his actual birthday on Christmas day, and now his mates take him out on boxing Day to celebrate his birthday also 😂 he's never said he's Jesus or been born thrice.

smilesy · 14/11/2021 19:51

And you fully understand my point, even if you will act obtuse.

No. There is no comparison between “having two birthdays “ and lying to a court of law.

Thesummeriwas16 · 14/11/2021 19:52

@rubicscubicle

The queen makes the whole country celebrate her birthday twice. It does not matter if it's historical, history gets corrected, that is why we no longer have slavery.

And you fully understand my point, even if you will act obtuse.

If you are going to be understanding and lenient about other people and see the context, you should do the same with MM. You cannot fling names at her that you would not dream of flinging at others. She is not some kind of sub human.

How ridiculous!
rubicscubicle · 14/11/2021 19:52

@PurpleOkapi

I'm still trying to figure out why Meghan would have purposely not told Knauf about her trip to Toronto before leaving because she was afraid Knauf would tell the media, then tell Knauf about it while she was still in Toronto (when Knauf leaking it to the media would still have defeated the purpose of not telling him), then tell Scobie about it a few days after returning. So much for keeping it out of the media.
By this time, she probably knew that the US had already published her whereabouts.

Maybe the question is why is the palace telling Rebecca English to inform us that MM is not in Canada, when no one knew or even wondered or cared for that matter. Instead it's just creating a confusion as to what ABC is saying. Maybe that was the point. To create chaos.

smilesy · 14/11/2021 19:55

Maybe the question is why is the palace telling Rebecca English to inform us that MM is not in Canada

As discussed previously, reporters had got wind of a rumour that Meghan was going to Canada so the Palace put it about that she wasn’t to keep the tabloids away from her trip to Toronto. So they were protecting her.

rubicscubicle · 14/11/2021 19:55

@Gwrach

The queen has never said to multiple platforms, "I was born twice"

She has her birth day (actual day of birth)

And then there's the Official Monarchs Birthday. Historically always held in accordance with the trooping of the colour in the summer, and has been so since 1748.

It's not something old maj invented for a second party.

Mind you my brother has more birthdays than the queen. He's a Christmas day baby. So he has his family birthday celebration on Christmas Eve to seperate the gift giving from Christmas day, then it's his actual birthday on Christmas day, and now his mates take him out on boxing Day to celebrate his birthday also 😂 he's never said he's Jesus or been born thrice.

The two birthdays, come from the continuation of this thread where people still call her a liar for two weddings.
rubicscubicle · 14/11/2021 19:57

@smilesy

Maybe the question is why is the palace telling Rebecca English to inform us that MM is not in Canada

As discussed previously, reporters had got wind of a rumour that Meghan was going to Canada so the Palace put it about that she wasn’t to keep the tabloids away from her trip to Toronto. So they were protecting her.

How on earth is it protecting her, when the US is confirming she is in Canada.

As I said, no one asked. Just leave it.

smilesy · 14/11/2021 19:59

The two birthdays, come from the continuation of this thread where people still call her a liar for two weddings.

Are you serious? 😂😂

rubicscubicle · 14/11/2021 19:59

[quote smilesy]@PurpleOkapi he was I Tonga at the time she was in Toronto I believe, so if he was away anyway he wouldn’t have needed to know she was not there either iyswim. Not sure I’ve explained that very well 🤔🤣[/quote]
Could her telling him be just to work out the time differences?

Gwrach · 14/11/2021 20:00

Oh behave, she fibbed about not having anything to do with the book, she was previously very adamant to various "sources" that her and Harry and "no involvement whatsoever"

Just accept it. 😂

She may have misunderstood the wedding thing. But she fibbed to a court of law, and has now had to give a toe curling apology for her fibbing.

Everyone knew they had fed the authors information, it's just like many lies it was always going to come out in the wash, and it did.

Tiaras, weddings, people crying at fittings, whatever shit happens, but lying to a court of law, that's a whole new level of telling untruths.

Aspiringmatriarch · 14/11/2021 20:01

I don't think it's a simple lie. They stated they did not collaborate on the book and were not interviewed. As far as we know, the latter is true. The first part is a matter of interpretation. If Jason Knauf had regular meetings with members of the press giving similar background on family/timelines etc then the email Meghan sent was in no way exceptional. Granted the tiara story was repeated as Meghan told it but is this what you would generally understand as collaborating on a book?

When this was discussed some time ago on here, many posters essentially thought Scobie was acting as Meghan's mouthpiece and the implication was that they were involved from start to finish. The email actually proves otherwise and shows that they didn't instigate the writing of the book, were pretty lukewarm about Scobie, and simply gave a basic background as they will have done for other media outlets etc. It comes across as if they were concerned the book might actually be hostile, and they were advised not to ask their friends not to speak to the authors in part to avoid that. At no point have they tried to suppress any evidence.

Quote from this article below: www.thelist.com/658178/did-meghan-and-harry-really-do-this-with-the-authors-of-finding-freedom/?utm_campaign=clip

However, the duchess also clarified that most of the information had been requested by her former press secretary as far back as 2016, "when he had asked me for a timeline relating to my family to enable him to engage with the media on enquiries." She added, "It is also a far cry from the very detailed personal information that the Defendant alleges that I wanted or permitted to put into the public domain."

In any case she has apologised and stated that she had no wish to mislead the court. Given that the email exchange doesn't (IMO) contain enough information or 'exclusives' to constitute breaching her own privacy and certainly makes no reference to the letter, it's of limited relevance to the court case as far as I can see. So there would be no real motivation to lie about it in the first place.

rubicscubicle · 14/11/2021 20:01

@smilesy

The two birthdays, come from the continuation of this thread where people still call her a liar for two weddings.

Are you serious? 😂😂

Don't act up, you were just here on this thread1 of this. I am quite sure you saw several posters going on about her questionable character 'as she has lied before'. Who do you think you are fooling?
Serenster · 14/11/2021 20:01

Maybe the question is why is the palace telling Rebecca English to inform us that MM is not in Canada, when no one knew or even wondered or cared for that matter. Instead it's just creating a confusion as to what ABC is saying. Maybe that was the point. To create chaos.

No, that point is easily answered. Someone had apparently seen her on an Air Canada flight and it was picked up by a gossip blogger. Speculation ensued. Journalists will have been contacting Kensington Palace and asking them: “Is the Duchess in Canada?”. The Palace responds “No, she’s not in Canada, or LA either, and no plans to be there in the near future”. The journalists pass that onto their readers (e.g. Rebecca English’s tweet.

That much is covered in what I posted on the first page of this thread. As ro why KP said no she’s not in Canada, the most likely reason for that is because Meghan asked them to, because her trip was private (and she has a right to a private life).

As to how Omid later came to tweet about her trip, well, once news of the trip remained secret information, it became a commodity, and could then be given to a journalist as an exclusive for whatever reason suited Meghan. We saw this play out in the texts between Meghan and Jason Knauf - she said that if she was happy with the proposal for his book, she would invite him along to an engagement she had planned.

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Tillsforthrills · 14/11/2021 20:07

@smilesy

I also asked that question further upthread, but that part wasn’t answered…

smilesy · 14/11/2021 20:07

@rubicscubicle I meant are you serious in comparing Meghan saying she was married 3 days before the wedding and the Queen having two birthdays.

rubicscubicle · 14/11/2021 20:08

Genuinely believe Meghan could find a cure cancer and people would make massive leaps to criticise her behaviour 😂 it's hysterical.

Tillsforthrills · 14/11/2021 20:10

@rubicscubicle

Meghan can openly lie and mislead in a court case and certain people defend it, hilarious.

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