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Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan

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Why2why · 26/10/2021 18:58

Interesting analysis but who could be paying for this concerted effort? It’s suggested that not only is it coordinated but the people doing it are paid to do so.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/bot-sentinel-meghan-markle-prince-harry-twitter

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BananaPB · 28/10/2021 16:56

People who wanted to see the CBouzy anti
Cambridge tweet

Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan
Roussette · 28/10/2021 16:57

I heard Meghan herself was behind a bit of doxxing

That was labelled as 'gossip has it..' up thread. It's just that. Gossip.

If you heard it personallly, you need to say where from

@Triffid1
Good post and yes I agree.

I just think there is more at play here that can't let them get friendly and yes, I blame the royal family machine for that.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/10/2021 17:01

@amusedtodeath1

So if you don't like MM, you're a troll, racist, hater?

Jesus Christ, I don't think she is being genuine. So sue me.

You can have whatever opinion on Meghan Sussex you like, but if you troll her on the internet then you are a troll.🤷‍♀️ And some of her trolls are racist.
Zuluqueen · 28/10/2021 17:04

@amusedtodeath1

Piers Morgan - most trolled person of 2021.
The very same Piers who has constantly bullied & attacked Meghan for years on Twitter on GMB . The same Piers who has without fail gone after mostly black /POC women suffering from mental health. Naomi Osaka, Simone Biles etc, what’s the pattern?. He is not a very nice person and the way he attacked these poor women was disgusting.
Triffid1 · 28/10/2021 17:08

@rubicscubicle

I get what you say *@Triffid1* and I blame the RF on this one.

I feel that the RF could have had a lot of PR photos of the two laughing if they wished. Somehow I get the feeling that they do not want this. In so much, that I suspect even their outings would have been coordinated so that such an opportunity would not take place. Even the made someone cry story, should have never even got out in the first place, other than the rf allowed the story to fester.

I have thought about this a LOT (I work in PR, albeit not this type). And I have come to the conclusion that 1. The RF's PR is actually very very bad and very very old fashioned. They have not adapted to the new world and cannot try new things. Also, 2. it is the one area that does make me wonder about a concerted campaign and/or very deep issues within the family/ the organization.

Because it would have been SOOOOO easy. A few joint engagements, sure. But really, more casually, they could have done any number of things such Kate being papped buying baby gifts for Archie, Meghan/Kate referencing each other in official speeches (in the way that William and Harry did, often, in the old days), a few social media posts, a joint statement.... so many things.

The lack has caused me to feel offended at a professional level! :) Because my clients might hate each other at times but still know how to sell the official message! So the combination of incompetence and genuine malice are hard to get my head around.

BananaPB · 28/10/2021 17:08

Search his name with scam and you'll see people complaining about his behaviour with regards to cryptocurrency scams well before Meghan.

He crowdfunded for his report from Sussex supporters.

rubicscubicle · 28/10/2021 17:08

@BananaPB has this individual tweeting a lot about the Cambridges or just that one tweet ?

He has been using that banana age thing on bigots, like he did with the person who was a homophobe.

I still don't see how that discredits Botsentinel , which actually shows twitter history from the bots. Nor do I see what BotSentinel has to do with the Cambridges, unless you are saying the bots are hired by the Cambridges, as he has never said that.

Zuluqueen · 28/10/2021 17:19

Bouzy was attacked and called a chimpanzee when he announced this report, his young daughter targeted and some even threatened his life. All this to me shows that those who were indulging in the Meghan hate will go after everyone and anyone who supports or says something positive about her. Why can’t they let her go, she is not the only slightly annoying celebrity out there atm. Those who hate Meghan will go after charities, children, schools etc etc just to prove that she is hated. I remember a school having to shut their Twitter & insta comments because of the abuse they got .Someone on here said Meghan & Harry are toxic and charities don’t want to work with them, that’s a lie. In America they have worked with various charities who actually were complementary, Harry was here a few months ago for his charity and the reception was very positive. The toxic stuff comes from the tabloids, some RR who court racist accounts on twitter( Angela Levin for example) and some on SM who really hate these two.

amusedtodeath1 · 28/10/2021 17:24

It would have been lovely to see the two women get along, but that only works if both women cooperate with the palace PR team.

Exactly BananaPB, this report didn't start out from a neutral stand point, didn't consider the other side of this "internet war".

There are numerous reports of people being abused on SM for doubting the pair.

Don't get me wrong I've seen some really awful stuff from both sides, but surely it's unfair to just look at one side of the equation.

Both sides are making shit up, exaggerating stuff and being crappy human beings IMO. The only thing I actually take seriously is what they write, say and do. Anything else is just rumour.

amusedtodeath1 · 28/10/2021 17:32

I don't condone name calling or personal attacks in anyway. I try very hard not to do those things.

I have no idea if the data collection for this report is valid, I don't care enough to do the research, but assuming it is, interpretation of the data is obviously subject to personal bias. Bouzy has bias towards M&H, it was funded by others who support them.

In short this report has zero credibility.

rubicscubicle · 28/10/2021 17:36

I think looking at the other side of has already been done by Buzzfeed when they realised that the papers cover the Sussexes on a different light.

I noticed of late that the rf has been co-ordinating for K& W to do a lot of work with C&C. Yes old fashioned. I guess it was the whole point to try and push for the heirs forward, but I still see no reason to force negativity about H&M.

Labloverrr · 28/10/2021 17:37

@amusedtodeath1

Unfortunately you’ll be deemed a stupid vitriolic racist hater.

rubicscubicle · 28/10/2021 17:38

The report has credibility, because he shows it as it is. Has shown proof, this is not another dodgy gov.com poll. He posted screenshots and sent out the data itself. If anyone wanted to prove the opposite, they could do the same programme.

What he was saying was not new, but just proof of what everyone else has been saying all along.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/10/2021 17:45

I have no idea if the data collection for this report is valid, I don't care enough to do the research...

But you have decided that the report has zero credibility anyway?Halloween Confused

rubicscubicle · 28/10/2021 17:46

@Zuluqueen

Bouzy was attacked and called a chimpanzee when he announced this report, his young daughter targeted and some even threatened his life. All this to me shows that those who were indulging in the Meghan hate will go after everyone and anyone who supports or says something positive about her. Why can’t they let her go, she is not the only slightly annoying celebrity out there atm. Those who hate Meghan will go after charities, children, schools etc etc just to prove that she is hated. I remember a school having to shut their Twitter & insta comments because of the abuse they got .Someone on here said Meghan & Harry are toxic and charities don’t want to work with them, that’s a lie. In America they have worked with various charities who actually were complementary, Harry was here a few months ago for his charity and the reception was very positive. The toxic stuff comes from the tabloids, some RR who court racist accounts on twitter( Angela Levin for example) and some on SM who really hate these two.
Correct, they have been working with various charities.

In the last few weeks, the British media failed to report on any positives that H&M have been doing - after all they did make a big issue on what they view to be 'public interest' negative news. From what I have seen Harry and Leo Dicaprio campaign against drilling in the Okavango river should have been big news, but nothing was covered about it. Just negative title tattle that benefits no one but tabloids.

Which brings me to the point that @Triffid1 was trying to make. It is one thing to promote and do PR for yourself, but it's rather irksome and unprofessional to down right lie and push such hateful agendas about someone especially on a big scale like this.

amusedtodeath1 · 28/10/2021 17:48

He owns Bot Sentinal, he has a pro M&H, anti C&W agenda.

Doesn't seem like a credible source to me tbh, but each to their own I suppose.

@Labloverrr, of course I will because I don't conform to the opinion that M&H can do no wrong, on the other hand rabid anti H&M also think I'm stupid because I can't see she is the root of all evil. Grin

amusedtodeath1 · 28/10/2021 17:51

@TooBigForMyBoots

I have no idea if the data collection for this report is valid, I don't care enough to do the research...

But you have decided that the report has zero credibility anyway?Halloween Confused

Yes, because if you read my whole post, I point out that Bouzys involvement means it's interpretation is bias.

Please don't quote me out of context. Thank youFlowers

rubicscubicle · 28/10/2021 17:54

No one has disproved his programme.

rubicscubicle · 28/10/2021 17:55

Once again, what does K&W have anything to do with these bots?

amusedtodeath1 · 28/10/2021 18:01

Because, disappointingly parties on both sides of this debacle have decided that one way to "argue their point" is by pitting the two couples against each other.

Take the pro M&H here for instance, they are always critical of K&W, and never critical of H&M. The opposite it true for those who dislike them, they always support K&W.

Ergo, criticism of K&W has now become a form of supporting H&M and vice versa.

I didn't make it that way, I don't agree with it but I can't deny what I see with my own eyes.

rubicscubicle · 28/10/2021 18:04

The report itself has nothing to do with K&W though. It's about a number of bots trolling H&M and reaching millions of users.

amusedtodeath1 · 28/10/2021 18:06

You are right of course, my point was that Bouzy being critical of W&C is an indication of bias towards H&M and even if the data is correct, his interpretation of it is possibly biased and therefore not credible to me.

amusedtodeath1 · 28/10/2021 18:11

He owns the company (a company who are paid to gather and analyse data), it's paid for by a group of known H&M supporters and he is bias towards H&M.

It's so far from neutral it's a joke tbh, now I think about it.

Grin
rubicscubicle · 28/10/2021 18:12

He has views and analysis on the report. But its pure data and he has publicised it. It's raw data, and so far no one was able to dispute it.

It has nothing to do with K&W, RF, or even the BM for that matter. Just pure stats and data as they stand.

BananaPB · 28/10/2021 18:13

He says that the attack is coordinated which is surely the headline here. People (including I) assumed that haters were random people.

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