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Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan

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Why2why · 26/10/2021 18:58

Interesting analysis but who could be paying for this concerted effort? It’s suggested that not only is it coordinated but the people doing it are paid to do so.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/bot-sentinel-meghan-markle-prince-harry-twitter

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Roussette · 10/11/2021 08:29

Why what's Onus been doing Serenster? I was focussing on the OP and the analysis on social media about MM

Yes Prep it's all OK because it's Meghan Hmm

Serenster · 10/11/2021 09:05

Just a few things which spring to mind, Rousette (and I won’t post shots of some of the relevant tweets in question as they would rightfully cause my post to be deleted, but if curious you can google).

He hosted one of the key sussexsquad organisers on his podcast, and later thanked her, telling her she was perfect. The person tweets as “henryscousin” and had previously posted a series of vile personal insults against Kate, Beatrice, Eugenie, and British royals generally.

He blocks people who don’t like the Sussexes, and so his Twitter followers are largely Sussex fans. So when he critically retweeted a comment made by a British charity leader who disapproved of the Oprah interview he was in essence promoting a pile on of abuse to her, which duly happened.

He has personally posted tweets mocking the Cambridge’s children.

Amplifying hate definitely applies to him too.

Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan
Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan
rubicscubicle · 10/11/2021 09:34

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BringBackThinEyebrows · 10/11/2021 09:34

I found the latest report overwhelming too.

The biggest take away is that a 'Royal expert' called Angela Levin interacted with some accounts set up by people who hate Harry and Meghan. One example from the report is that she retweeted some false information along with the words, 'Can it really be true that Harry and Meghan...' then repeats the claim.

Another 'Royal expert' is made an example of for retweeting some photos of the Cambridge family and an article which states that Prince Harry's popularity had declined. The report is trying to imply that interaction (retweeting/replying) endorses the accounts whether it's a positive or negative interaction. Many Twitter users include something like 'retweeting does not mean agreement' in their bio to avoid allegations like this.

The report suggests that the hate accounts are 'single purpose'- spreading hate and misinformation about Harry and Meghan. But then the report shows that some of the accounts are generally positive about about William and Kate, which undermines this claim.

There is one 'Royal expert' account which had 0 interactions with the hate accounts but for some reason, was chosen to be included in the report. Maybe to bring the number of 'Royal experts' into the double figures in an attempt to make it look more meaty?

Interesting that Meghan superfan 'henryscousin' is mention in this thread. Their racist tweet including racial slurs is one of the worst things I've ever seen. They were written about in the press but had their identity protected.

There's absolutely no suggestion of a funded campaign though, is that from a different report, OP?

BringBackThinEyebrows · 10/11/2021 09:36

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rubicscubicle · 10/11/2021 09:38

@PreparationPreparationPrep

I think *@SteppinOutwithMyBaby* and other posters on these threads can never bring themselves to condemn the hatred directed at M&H and it really is a waste of time trying to show them even with facts, court cases and evidence. I thought it was because they had gone so far along one track that it was hard for them to back track to admit they might not be justified in their relentless criticism at any little things. But now from the responses to the report I believe they in the their heads actually believe it is acceptable for M to be treated like this regardless. So there is no convincing them otherwise.
This is so true.

Also they have been so desensitized to the idea that you can harm Meghan and do whatever you want, it's no big deal.

What a sad state.

These reporters get called on TV and other media to give a comment on Meghan and it's always negative.

SteppinOutwithMyBaby · 10/11/2021 09:50

@PreparationPreparationPrep
Please do not presume to tell me what I do or don't think about any specific topic. Also, it's about time you got a new shtick? The wink wink, nudge nudge behind the back comments about posters with whom you disagree are getting rather tedious.

I just love being spoken about in the third person. It's incredibly demeaning – was that what you were aiming for? It makes it seem like I don't actually exist as a person worthy of any consideration. Perhaps that's how you regard me or other people that don't tow your party line.

If you bothered to read my comment, you would've seen that it was about the quality of Christopher Bouzy's report. I found it to be poorly edited, poorly written, and full of claims that had no foundation. He can't even get the title of the report into a logical form.

He's been dropping cumbersome hints about how earth shattering this report was going to be – honestly, the whole thing is completely underwhelming. You are quite welcome to think it's the best thing to appear on the Internet for the last two decades. Equally, I'm entitled to think that it's to the standard that a 15-year-old would produce.

You are welcome to think he's a model of rectitude. However, to me, he comes across a self-serving, almost like a snake oil salesman and a legend in his own lunchtime. I can only take him as I find him when I read things he has written.

I'm prepared to accept your opinion as having value – I may not agree with it, but I'll accept it. I just find it sad that you are not prepared to do the same for me.

Roussette · 10/11/2021 09:56

Serenster NO ONE should be subjected to vile hate tweets. No one, especially a RR like Levin, should be retweeting, answering, adding to and agreeing with hate accounts set up to slur someone.

However this is whataboutism at it's best and you know it.
Scobie is not in this report. He might ignite a touchpaper but given your two mild screenshots, he is not on a par with this.

(Please don't feel the need to go and hunt out the worst you can find on Scobie's twitter account because this thread is really not about him.)
I'm just surprised you don't condemn this by Levin et al, given what you obviously feel about Scobie.
Instead you bring him up.

SteppinOutwithMyBaby · 10/11/2021 09:57

@rubicscubicle I'm sorry, but you set too high a moral standard for we mere mortals. It's sad, but we can only strive to improve. However you have set such a high standard, we can probably never achieve it.

Roussette · 10/11/2021 10:00

I just love being spoken about in the third person. It's incredibly demeaning – was that what you were aiming for? It makes it seem like I don't actually exist as a person worthy of any consideration

People do that with me all the time. I've been quoted in posts as 'she' many a time, without even my name in the post. And far far worse, which I won't bore you with. M&H are a divisive subject.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 10/11/2021 12:39

@SteppinOutwithMyBaby

@PreparationPreparationPrep
Please do not presume to tell me what I do or don't think about any specific topic. Also, it's about time you got a new shtick? The wink wink, nudge nudge behind the back comments about posters with whom you disagree are getting rather tedious.

"I just love being spoken about in the third person. It's incredibly demeaning – was that what you were aiming for? It makes it seem like I don't actually exist as a person worthy of any consideration. Perhaps that's how you regard me or other people that don't tow your party line."
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Not sure I understand the nudge nudge wink wink but continue as you please. There are many
Posters who come
With the same complaints about M&H - hence the same response!*

Viviennemary · 10/11/2021 12:43

They do themselves no favours. I would say the same even if I was a fan.

PickupaPenguin8 · 10/11/2021 17:43

The fans are never prepared to admit that though.

BringBackThinEyebrows · 10/11/2021 18:03

Just realised my typo, I meant to say the latest report is UNDERwhelming!! It is absolutely not overwhelming 🤣

I was led to believe there would be evidence of a funded hate campaign against Meghan Markle but this has clearly proven to be false.

Anyone know why someone with zero interactions with hate accounts was even included in the report?

SteppinOutwithMyBaby · 10/11/2021 18:20

@Roussette So you are saying that because it happens to you, I have to accept it. Don't see the logic there.

Roussette · 10/11/2021 18:26

Did I say that, Steppin?
Nope.
Just saying - from the other side - it has happened to me continually.

SteppinOutwithMyBaby · 10/11/2021 18:37

You implied it. Otherwise why write it?

SteppinOutwithMyBaby · 10/11/2021 18:42

@PreparationPreparationPrep
@PreparationPreparationPrep
wink wink nudge nudge You mean you've never heard of the very old Monty Python sketch? It's excellent. Oh, sorry, I should've mentioned that to you I think it's excellent. You on the other hand are welcome to think otherwise.

As always, context is everything.

There are many
Posters who come
With the same complaints about M&H - hence the same response!
So, you are saying that that is your automatic response to anybody who doesn't agree with you. You attack?

I actually wrote nothing about Meghan and Harry in the post to which you responded, so to criticise me for saying something about Meghan and Harry, is just a bit curious. If you had bothered to read my post – which I'm beginning to doubt – it was about the credibility of Bouzy and his extraordinarily underwhelming report.

Roussette · 10/11/2021 18:49

Why write it?

I was illustrating that M&H are very divisive and those with a different opinion get this too.

You take what you want from it, I can't be bothered to explain more.

rubicscubicle · 10/11/2021 19:02

Wow, Harry was not holding back at the RE WiRED meeting.

“They successfully turned fact-based news into opinion-based gossip with devastating consequences,”

"Perhaps the most disturbing part of this was the number of British journalists who were interacting with them and amplifying the lies. But they regurgitate these lies as truth"

“The term "megx*t" is a misogynistic term, It was created by a troll, and was amplified by royal correspondents"

www.wired.com/story/rewired-2021-prince-harry-renee-diresta-rashad-robinson/

SteppinOutwithMyBaby · 10/11/2021 19:26

@Roussetten I can't be bothered that's good because your explanation is as clear as mud, and to be honest I've lost interest in it.

Roussette · 10/11/2021 19:30

Ditto, yours too. At least we're agreed on that.

SteppinOutwithMyBaby · 10/11/2021 20:00

Why must we agree on anything? There's nothing wrong with having differing opinions. Don't they add spice to any discussion? Surely homogeneity can only ultimately lead to incredible boredom. Although some would say that that is the way that society is heading.

Roussette · 10/11/2021 20:03

You said 'Ive lost interest in it' (our particular difference of opinion on this thread)
I agreed with you.
I've lost interest in it also

Am I allowed to agree on that?. Can't you/me leave it now?
It's boring for everyone on this thread.