Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan

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Interesting analysis but who could be paying for this concerted effort? It’s suggested that not only is it coordinated but the people doing it are paid to do so.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/bot-sentinel-meghan-markle-prince-harry-twitter

does anyone know how much Kate's dress that she wore to the bond thing was?

why is he now Haz?

'why is he now Haz?'

Why not. It isn't an insult you know, it's his name. Or would you prefer Prince Henry The Duke Of Sussex?

since when has he been called Haz? I thought he was known as Harry.

@JaniieJones

'why is he now Haz?'

Why not. It isn't an insult you know, it's his name. Or would you prefer Prince Henry The Duke Of Sussex?

I think @JaniieJones may have watched the James Corden programme where Meghan called Harry "Haz" during a phone call .

It's reportedly around 5K.

Its cheaper than her outfit to Piper's wedding at around 14K or her visit to Paris Chanel dress of 10K. Both of which are not particularly memorable events. She has several outfits for in this price range.

And yes, she does wear gear worth thousands a piece to see poverty stricken people too, not a word of 'criticism'.

Yes, I remember the phone call from MM. When James said Haz to him, Harry said "yes, but your'e not my wife".

So I believe it's meant to be goady when criticising him.

Nope

Gosh.

This footage puts it very succintly. I can't believe anyone thinks there was no racism towards her whatsoever. It's like living in a parallel universe.

twitter.com/DBrown99944/status/1454258263114100737

You say Janiie he says this because it's convenient and because he didn't get his way. Why, then, did he call out the press way way before they even thought of leaving?

Janie it's only you that talks of a 'flounce'. Many many people feel very different to you. Their position became untenable and they left. Well done them.
Personally I think they shouldn't have done the OW interview because it just adds fuel to the fire as far as criticism from detractors. But they had something to say and they wanted to say it.

Haz is to demean him. As is Megz. Or MeAgain which was used on many threads on here.

As for Sarah Vine, bless your little cotton socks if you think she does not know how to cherry pic her words to influence and drip feed subtle little words

Bless your little cotton socks rubicscubicle if you didn’t know that it is the newspaper subeditors who write the headlines, not the journalists. Sarah Vine will have submitted her 1000 or so word piece, and then had no involvement whatsoever in it being chosen as a front page headline, or indeed what that headline was. So no, I don’t think it that likely that she used those words in her article in anything other than their perfectly non-controversial sense.

@rubicscubicle

Yes, I remember the phone call from MM. When James said Haz to him, Harry said "yes, but your'e not my wife".

So I believe it's meant to be goady when criticising him.

Yes I agree it was meant to be goady - I'm just surprised that someone who doesn't like them would take their time watch it.

You like to make things up just to argue don't you @Serenster.

You know very well that SV is higher up in the DM to make her own headlines. Also she is not a journalist, she is a reporter, who gives journalism a bad name at that.

You clearly have no idea how this works then.

I used to work in media, so have quite a good idea. Do you?

@rubicscubicle

Yes, I remember the phone call from MM. When James said Haz to him, Harry said "yes, but your'e not my wife".

So I believe it's meant to be goady when criticising him.

thanks. was starting to think I had missed something lol

One of my close friends used to be a subeditor for a national daily newspaper. She and the team of subeditors were the ones entirely responsible for ensuring that the output of the writers was grammatically correct, in line with the publication’s house style and tone, had been run past the legal team and signed off if relevant, and they then had sole charge of writing the headlines and standalone text.

They are the ones with the specialist knowledge of the newspaper’s “voice” for headlines, know what will work online versus in print and know what wording will drive online search engine indexing. The people who write the content wouldn’t have a clue about that.

One of the reasons she eventually left her job was she grew tired of having journalists and commentators - yes, even the really senior ones - having a go at her because they didn’t like the headline she’d written for their piece. Or because she’d edited it in ways they didn’t like.

So yes.

And I can tell you I worked in your friend's job myself in the past.

For the less experienced reporters we helped with the headlines, but SV is way more senior than that, hence one of the justifications of paying her more is that she knows the 'voice' of the paper, and especially in her case she knows that voice very well and plays to it. Infact she is one of the best in the DM voice field.

Well, for the record, the Mail has denied that Sarah Vine wrote the headline - see here:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9365463/U-S-Vogues-racism-smear-niggling-doubts-toxic-prejudice.html

“[Mr Bowles of US Vogue] seems to be suggesting that the editor who chose to use the term (it did not feature in the article) did so because he or she wanted to draw malign attention to Ms Markle’s ethnicity (which was also not mentioned in the article)”.

“[Vogue’s website manager] Ms Nnadi’s letter (falsely) accused Ms Vine of writing the headline in question”

It also points out that the term has been used literally thousands of times in press by the Times, Guardian and Mail and even by US Vogue itself - somewhat undermining their complaint.

What nonsense re the word niggling. I suspected as much. Apparently it comes from an old Norse word meaning stingy.

Is niggling a bad word?
Don't people have niggling doubts

No Samcro, it’s not a bad word, and yes they do.

If you do a search on for example Mumsnet/Twitter/newspaper text services etc you will find thousands and thousands of instances of it being used it to describe doubts/worries/pains/thoughts etc.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10157641/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-pledge-Net-zero-2030.html

archewell.com/news/reaching-net-zero/

Self-awareness has never been their strong point, but this takes it to a new level. Anyone who owns a 16-bathroom home on 7+ acres in sunny SoCal can be at net zero in the time it takes them to install a bunch of solar panels on their own enormous roof and yard. Anyone who could pay $15 million for that property can easily afford all those solar panels. The only way "net zero" is enough is if everyone else also gets to "net zero." I don't think it's occurred to them that most people don't own estates big enough for them to just put up some solar panels and continue life as normal.

The other royals who live in palaces can speak on climate change but these two can’t? . Also this thread is about exactly this type of selective outrage like this which then leads to abuse.Why not get triggered about all of them not just HaM. Jesus

What is it with some British press & some people on here always mentioning these two’s house & bathrooms anyway?. Harry livid in mansions and palaces before he met Meghan and nobody was ever triggered by it , but enter Meghan it’s a problem that his wife & children live in a big house like all other Royals & celebrities. Meghan is allowed to live in a mansion too you know!.

Mean Harry grew up and Ives in palaces just like the rest of them before he married a biracial woman. Do all the royal residences have solar panels as well?

Charles and William will ond day be Head of State of this country. That's the difference. Dont think H& M realise the difference either by the looks of it. Charles and William are representing Queen and country.

@Samcro

Is niggling a bad word? Don't people have niggling doubts

@ Samcro, I’m the one who brought up the word niggling into the discussion. At the time when it was used a lot black & POC picked up on it, and it bothered them in the context that it was used. I have already being asked if I’m really British so Im not bothered anymore to explain why the reception to that headline was different for mainly Black people & media, blogs plus social media commentary at the time.