Harry and Meghan statement on Afghanistan

[Mummyoflittledragon]

“The world is exceptionally fragile right now.
As we all feel the many layers of pain due to the situation in Afghanistan, we are left speechless.
As we all watch the growing humanitarian disaster in Haiti, snd the threat of it worsening after last weekend’s earthquake, we are left heartbroken.
And as we all witness the continuing global health crisis, exacerbated by the new variants and constant misinformation, we are left scared.
When any person or community suffers, a piece of each of us does so with them, whether we realise it or not. And though we are not meant to live in a state of suffering, we are as a people, being conditioned to accept it. It’s easy to find ourselves feeling powerless, but we can put our values into action - together.
To start, we encourage you to join us in supporting a number of organisations doing critical work. We also urge those in positions of global influence to rapidly advance the humanitarian dialogues that are expected to take place this fall at multilateral gatherings such as the U.N. General Assembly and the Leader’s Summit.
As an international community, it is the decisions we make now - to alleviate suffering among those we know and those we may never meet - that will prove our humanity.”

• THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUFFOLK

H&M are being criticised for making this about them and for not calling out Biden, notably the FLOTUS is report as being a personal friend of H.

What do mumsnetters think?

You guys do know that there are a whole bunch of threads about Andrew, right?

Mummyoflittledragon, Charlie Watts has died. He had an interesting life, more so than Meghan and Harry so far, so think about the Stones for a while; far more healthy:

@Plumtree391

Mummyoflittledragon, Charlie Watts has died. He had an interesting life, more so than Meghan and Harry so far, so think about the Stones for a while; far more healthy:

Patronising, much?

Well if Mumsnet was all about supporting mums, why has it for forums for "The Royal Family"? Surely that for us to gossip?

@callmeadoctor

Well if Mumsnet was all about supporting mums, why has it for forums for "The Royal Family"? Surely that for us to gossip?

YAY I love the gossip on Mumsnet I remember there was a chat once about whether you had met a celeb and were they nice, then it carried on to a HUGE conversation about nice and horrible celebs. Thats gossip isn't it? Surely Mumsnet thrives on gossip

@callmeadoctor

Oh can somebody start a chat on that? I'd love to talk about rude/nice celeb encounters!

I remember that thread! James Martin came off particularly badly

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken yeah he looks like the type.

Nicest one I met was Peter Crouch. Genuinely lovely person!

Nastiest one was Rochelle Humes, rude and snobby.

They said "we are left speechless " and then proceed to give a speech. Just more hypocrisy from them as per usual.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

I remember that thread! James Martin came off particularly badly

😍😮 Well that's just burst my little celeb bubble!!

@StarryStarrySocks

🙄 Why do they feel the need to make a statement in this? Do they realise that saying nothing is an option?

It would have been weird if they hadn’t, given Harry served in Afghanistan. All my military friends are upset although notsuprised sadly. Its brought up grief of the people they lost out there, as well as watching the suffering taking place now.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

I remember that thread! James Martin came off particularly badly

Really? That’s disappointing. He seems lovely.

I think mums find support in having a good gossip, so there is no reason why Mumsnet should not be a home to gossip (as long as it’s within guidelines) as well as support and friendship. I am amused that some feel they need to be the thought police to the extent that they want to dictate musical taste 🤣.

@Topofthepopicles, as has been said already on this thread, Harry did make a statement through Invictus that was perfectly appropriate for the situation in Afghanistan. It is the subsequent one that came via Archewell that posters are finding a bit “off”.

@Gilmorehill @StormzyinaTCup

I know! Me too! That’s why I remember it.

Thank you @Why2why. These two do indeed hit a raw nerve. They have their health, each other, their children, immense privilege, are in the spotlight (which Meghan definitely wants) and parents, who both love them and want to support them even if they often haven’t got the support right. What I mean by this is that very few parents actually want to actively cause their children harm. Rather that unfortunately often parents and families often get things wrong and I understand H&M both been deeply hurt by past events.

I understand their privilege doesn’t necessarily bring happiness. However, I don’t understand why they are squandering this immense privilege by continuing to talk about the RF. It is excusable in children or young adults. But not by late 30s / early 40s. Even taking TM out of the equation, who really needs to shut up as well, they are not only hurting his family but also damaging themselves, their little family.

Every time they release statements or give interviews, they commit acts of self sabotage. Perhaps one day they will see it and a lot of people on these threads feel for Harry even though they’re also upset with him.

I said earlier, the relationship with his family is salvageable but they don’t seem to want to do so. H&M are never going to get what they’re looking for. Now at a cross roads, they really do need to stop to prevent causing more pain to the RF and themselves. The Queen is reported to be looking at taking legal action, I presume about Harry’s book. This is a good thing if ultimately it can calm the waters. There are many things, which should be left unsaid.

You had a lot to say about my saying they pick fights. Perhaps picking at a scab would be a better analogy. It seems to me just when things are beginning to settle, something else is said. It seems to me they are a long way off from finding peace with their lives and the therapists (presuming a green light was given) have been extremely irresponsible to allow them to talk as they have. It it incredibly unproductive for eventual healing.

Mummyoflittledragon - sending best wishes to you on your previous post and I'm sorry you're dealing with those issues

Regarding "why" - I believe some people suffer from a condition known as "last word itis".

Sufferers just have to have the last word and their version of events out in the world. Sadly, I think it's terminal - all friends are lost as it progresses (known as "shedding") people just will not see the world from the sufferers' point of view.

Marmalade
Thank you. Wasn’t trying to make the thread about me or anything. . I suppose we all see other people’s actions through our own lens.

I agree about lastworditis. Momentarily seeming cathartic but never enough. You do have it so right there. 🤷‍♀️

And Cilla Black always came across badly

It wasn't meant that way, Overbyyer but if that is how you saw it, fair enough.

I know when I have become particularly invested in something, a cause or whatever, to the point where it is seldom off my mind, it helps if I can divert my attention to something else for a while. We have to take care of our mental health.

Just seen some more in the epilogue for Finding Freedom. Apparently, H hound that he had “an extra layer of pressure” at his grandfather’s funeral because of having to be alongside the family he hasn’t seen in a year 🙄

Sorry what does that even mean? Couldn’t the same be said in reverse? Didn’t it occur to either Harry or Scobie that actually his family members felt an extra layer of pressure because they had to be alongside someone, who had spoken so harshly of them on the most popular talk show on the planet? And does Omid Scobie ever engage his brain before writing such drivel?

I do wonder if M stirs the pot to keep creating trouble between H and his family because she does not want anything to do with them. I don't believe she wants to ever set foot in Britain again and needs to keep H angry to achieve that. Of course I may be quite wrong.

If it’s true that Scobie has not had any input from HaM towards this epilogue, there is going to be some serious litigation coming his way as the content seems to be quite inflammatory, and definitely seems to be openly critical of the Queen 😱

@SwimmingUnderwater

I do wonder if M stirs the pot to keep creating trouble between H and his family because she does not want anything to do with them. I don't believe she wants to ever set foot in Britain again and needs to keep H angry to achieve that. Of course I may be quite wrong.

I can think of relationships like that. I find this seemingly endless picking of the scab thing baffling but I’ve never understood people who let things fester for years. My family are like that. They hold on to grievances for years. My dm died without having spoken to either her sister or brother for nearly 20 years. It’s not a way to live a happy life.

I can’t see things ever being right with H and his family now. He’s made his bed. At the moment it might seem like he’s free of the shackles and living a glorious new life. However all his eggs are in one basket, and his family have shaped his whole life and who he is fundamentally.