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The royal family

Meghan’s birthday video

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Greenlittle · 05/08/2021 14:31

I like the idea and I like the video. (Not that keen on the big desk) And I though MM looked...alive!

Not sure who the other woman was. But there was good chemistry.

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Cacacoisfarraige · 06/08/2021 13:18

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Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:21

Running pipes for miles to run to a castle in the middle of no-where, digging up ancient palaces at enormous expense.

As I understand it... it's not forcing the castles and palaces to have renewable energy. It is allowing renewable energy pipelines to run on any of the 91,000 acres owned by the Queen in Scotland, to other homes and businesses.

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Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:23

Cacacois I know nothing about infrastructure like this so I don't know about costs, or savings, but it is law that the public have to adhere to. But not the Queen in Scotland.

Janiie
Who does it remind you of? You've said this a number of times and I genuinely don't know.
By the way, I've apologised to Vivienne as you will see above

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Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 13:28

I’m assuming it is a public debate that applies to everyone? Not secret lobbing by powerful state officials to exempt themselves from public laws?

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Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 13:30

www.google.com/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/queen-lobbied-scottish-government-land-exemption-climate-law-1125202/amp

Lawyers for the Queen secretly lobbied Scottish ministers to change a draft law so that her private land would not be bound by a green energy rule aimed at cutting carbon emissions, it’s been revealed.

Using a unique exemption, the monarch, who is one of the largest landowners in Scotland, is the only person not required to use renewable energy to heat her buildings.

In documents seen by The Guardian, the use of a parliamentary mechanism known as Queen’s consent gives the monarch advanced notice of upcoming legislation so she can make changes without the public knowing.

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Cacacoisfarraige · 06/08/2021 13:32

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CauliflowerCheese30 · 06/08/2021 13:38

I assume that anyone who wants to be mentored will go through their website, and once they have handed over their story, then they have to sign the terms and conditions, which then they have no control over. My opinion of course.

Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 13:41

And why should her land not be subject to CPO, if everyone else and their land is subject to the green legislation?

In fact as the top state official, she should be setting an example and all that. Not using her position for secret lobbying to circumvent environmental laws

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Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:42

As she owns 91,000 acres in Scotland, I would've thought that a few acres to lay a pipeline to facilitate thousands of houses would not go amiss.
The only person in the country to be exempt and you either support green energy or you don't.
Wouldn't it send a better message not to have the laws of the land amended for the Queen? The heat networks bill cuts emissions, creates green jobs etc. To me, it doesn't look good.

Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:43

I assume that anyone who wants to be mentored will go through their website, and once they have handed over their story, then they have to sign the terms and conditions, which then they have no control over. My opinion of course

No, I've done lots of links and copy and pastes upthreads showing offering of mentoring direct and the website doesn't have that facility, from what I've read, so no.

Rainy365 · 06/08/2021 13:44

Surely you must agree that lobbying parliament in secret to have laws changed to benefit yourself tax wise and enviromentally damaging wise... is a tad different to Meghan not doing 40 minutes of mentoring?
Unconfirmed by the way

Of course it’s different. From the info I have I disagree with the exemption, I’ve said that already.
But what relevance does it have to Meghan’s actions? I’m not sure what you want me to say. I don’t change my opinion on someone’s actions based on the unrelated actions of someone else. I have a separate opinion on both because they are unrelated to each other. And in these two cases I think both parties are showing hypocrisy and that they think what they expect of others doesn’t also apply to them. I will continue to think that until someone can give me a valid reason to suggest otherwise. Why is that hard to understand?

As far as I’m concerned, given there is nothing on archewell and nobody has shown me otherwise, Meghan not making a pledge like she expects others to is fact. What would be the point in her doing a secret pledge behind the scenes with nobody knowing, given how much publicity she wants for this cause.

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Paquerette · 06/08/2021 13:47

@Roussette

There is absolutely no way that RF critics on this thread defending Meghan would agree that it’s ok for William to not litter pick for 40 minutes if he was asking everyone else to do it, because he passionately believes this is one step to building a better environment. But not passionate enough to contribute to the effort himself. And I would agree with you because it's wrong

And yes you agree. William is urging environmental changes whilst not practising it with hundreds of thousands of acres of land within his own family.
He surely is not passionate enough about this as he isn't urging the Queen to think again. It's happened. The RF are exempt from the laws applied to the public.

You said 91,000 acres earlier, now it’s hundreds of thousands of acres?

As a PP said, it’s probably due to possible damage to ancient buildings or maybe even a security issue? As you seem to know so much about it, what were the reasons given?

Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:48

I honestly cannot talk about this anymore Rainy. As I said way back upthread, let's agree to disagree on this because I don't see anything wrong with it. You do. That's fine. We have different opinions.

And as I said before, if that's all that's wrong with this... it's no big deal (my opinion)

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Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:50

*You said 91,000 acres earlier, now it’s hundreds of thousands of acres?
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I'm sorry, got my figures muddled up. It is 91,000 acres. Well done for spotting that.

What do you mean 'as you know so much about it?'

I don't. I just read a lot.

Reasons aren't provided.

Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:50

When the Queen stops pipes being built on her land - then it’s a story

She's stopped it in advance surely?

The exemption has taken effect so it won't happen.

Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 13:51

It is secret lobbying. If there was a publicly acceptable reason it should be up for public scrutiny and debate, no?

If the Queen can retain her land, why can’t others? Loads of old castles/buildings and acres of land owned by individuals are subject to these laws to protect our environment. Except the Royal Family.

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Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:52

she’s just retaining ownership of her land

Yes. She's the only person in the country with that facility

Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 13:56

From the article

Former Scottish Liberal Democrats leader Willie Rennie, expressed his concerns over the documents and the “secret doors” made available to the monarch to change laws.

He said: “Others who lobby for changes have to declare it. That should be true for everyone.”

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