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The royal family

Meghan’s birthday video

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Greenlittle · 05/08/2021 14:31

I like the idea and I like the video. (Not that keen on the big desk) And I though MM looked...alive!

Not sure who the other woman was. But there was good chemistry.

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MissTrip82 · 06/08/2021 12:10

I like the idea. I think some of the people chosen probably aren’t great. I can’t imagine what Eugenie can offer in the way of career advice. I wonder if it would have been better to recruit 40 people in HR or at recruitment firms who could offer practical advice.

I really liked the smart works initiative. It’s a shame they left because some of their charity stuff seemed really fresh and relevant.

Maireas · 06/08/2021 12:12

Those two points above I absolutely concur with, @MissTrip82.
It's all such a pity.

Viviennemary · 06/08/2021 12:34

What's a pity. That they lef? I thought it was a good thing. But i didnt expect them to set up their own royal court in Montecito complete even with jester.

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Maireas · 06/08/2021 12:36

I think the whole thing is a pity, Viviennemary, that it all went so badly wrong.

OverByYer · 06/08/2021 12:37

@JaniieJones

'It is patronising to suggest that women need mentoring when actually they need financial support'

Yes. 'Mentorship' I mean wtf does that even mean. Women don't need virtual signalling head pats, they need financial support and job offers. So cut the 40 mins for 40 blah crap and actual offer something concrete.

Look at Stormzy for example. He hasn't just got his pals to 'mentor' people he is actually doing something. Financially supporting the education of students through uni, including accommodation. No cheesy gimmicky clips with loud Americans.

Agree and Stormzy is just doing the do, not making cheesy videos about himself
Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 12:37

HR is usually pointless with recruitment. They tend to process paperwork rather than actually make recruitment decisions. For example, HR would pass resumes to managers for review and sit in on interviews, but it is line managers who made hiring decisions.

I think people in senior positions can help others travel up the ladder and perhaps guide others on how to cross hurdles.
Whether you are an entrepreneur, artist, doctor or any other professional, networks within your industry are important. And sometimes we lose those networks when we are out of the market or move countries/cities. Hopefully this will help women recognise and continue to invest in these informal networks

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Rainy365 · 06/08/2021 12:38

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Rainy365

The Royal family are a complete entity and I really don't think William can divest himself of any decisions the Queen or the 'firm' makes because he wasn't the one to lobby parliament to exempt himself from the laws that apply to us.
And no, it wasn't one building. It's Scotland where the Queen is the largest landowner and it's secretly lobbying Scottish Ministers to be exempt on all her land from any green energy laws. She is the only person in the country not to be required to facilitate construction of pipelines to heat buildings using renewable energy.
So.. no.. not just one royal building. 91,000 acres of land in Scotland.

But William is writing a book or a preface of a book on climate change, renewable energy, and repairing the environment.
Ironic...

Thanks for the info. Intrigued though, have they given any justification as to why they think they should be exempt? I can’t think of a good reason. Assume they don’t want to spend the money if it has to come out of the income from the estate.

But on the face of it, of course I think it is wrong to exempt themselves from this if it applies to the rest of us. If it applies to all categories of land and buildings across Scotland it should apply to them too. I would think this even if they were not doing any environmental work. I can’t stand the rich and privileged being exempt from things the rest of us have to do. The pandemic has shown us more than ever how if you have money the rules don’t apply to you. Rich people buying their way into countries like Australia, when when their own citizens are banned from returning, is the easiest example I detest.

Still not convinced about William’s influence on it though and that he should take the flack for being a hypocrite in this particular case. He could wholeheartedly disagree with it behind the scenes for all we know, at the moment his opinions can be overridden. I’m sure you wouldn’t it feel it fair for Meghan to get flack over something that Harry has done she had no influence over.
But for arguments sake even if he was influential in it, then yes this is hypocritical of him and unacceptable.

I’ve digressed off topic as people keep bringing up others actions to somehow excuse Meghan’s. Or we are only allowed to criticise Meghan if we criticise the RF at the same time.

I still think it’s questionable/hypocritical of Meghan to tell others to do this 40 minute thing and not do it herself if she really believes in it. Not sure why the above topics are relevant to her own actions to be honest. I can disagree with Meghan’s actions and the royal family’s actions at the same time, funnily enough.

OverByYer · 06/08/2021 12:39

@Maireas

Smartworks is a great initiative that has helped a lot of women get back into the workplace!
Meghan didn’t set it up though . It’s been going for 13 years. She’s a patron. I agree it’s a worthwhile charity, though and she has given it great publicity
Maireas · 06/08/2021 12:41

I never said she set it up.
As you say, she was a patron and gave them publicity.

Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 12:42

I’m quite sure MN is doing her 40 minutes. And more than 40 minutes since she is organising this.

Many successful American women are big into mentorship as they recognise how powerful network of connections can be.

If William fundamentally believe in importance of environmentalism and disagrees with the RF position, he can leave the firm and advocate environmental policies outside it? Remain true to his principles and all that?

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Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 12:54

You mean string things along for potentially 20+ years more? That’s a lot of patience and very little action.
Or perhaps he can leave and make a big difference in these 20 years on the environment? (That is if he really is passionate about environmentalism)

Would you say that, for example, Snowden was “throwing his toys out if the pram” when he gave up job security and comfort for his principles?

Can I say I’m for women’s rights but stay on working with a company that abuses women on a regular basis. And in fact lobbies to continue doing so.. Because, you know, when I become ceo in 20 years I’ll change things. I really will. I promise.

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Rainy365 · 06/08/2021 13:03

It’s hilarious. I have agreed that the RF/William are hypocrites in the scenarios people have mentioned. And at the same time still believe Meghan is also a hypocrite with this asking others to mentor thing.

Yet posters defend Meghan’s hypocrisy whilst criticising the RF for theirs. Are you not able to see the hypocrisy in both at the same time?

It’s 40 minutes of her time, why hasn’t she pledged to do it? And no, all the organisation that’s gone in to it is not a good enough reason. She has specifically asked people to pledge 40 minutes of their time to help someone else, as she believes that is what is important at this time to help women, but she has not pledged to do the same. She could absolutely help someone in acting with the contacts she has. I find this really telling that she’s not pledged anything. She should have been the first one to pledge then asked her friends. That’s what she’s asking for of the movement. Yet she couldn’t even start it off with her own pledge, she just went straight to her friends.

There is absolutely no way that RF critics on this thread defending Meghan would agree that it’s ok for William to not litter pick for 40 minutes if he was asking everyone else to do it, because he passionately believes this is one step to building a better environment. But not passionate enough to contribute to the effort himself. And I would agree with you because it’s wrong.

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Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 13:08

pretending to be an environmentalist when working for a firm that actively and secretly lobbies against environmental policies is not really edifying.

Someone, somewhere is paying for the RF inefficient use of energy and others hogging our planet’s resources.

If W is such an environmentalist, why does he have three children for example? Why doesn’t he stay in a smaller energy efficient house? Give up on foreign holidays? These are things within his control. As is actually the company he works for. He can leave the RF firm if he disagrees with their policies. People leave their employers based on their principles, it is nothing new

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Greenlittle · 06/08/2021 13:09

Agree on mentoring regarding writing. Not Mm’s strong point 😂. C

alm down Rainy, I’m sure she is mentoring. Probably already does lots if it abs and will continue

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Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:13

But i didnt expect them to set up their own royal court in Montecito complete even with jester.

Dear oh dear Vivienne

That post says a lot about you Shock

Rainy
*Yet posters defend Meghan’s hypocrisy whilst criticising the RF for theirs. Are you not able to see the hypocrisy in both at the same time?
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Surely you must agree that lobbying parliament in secret to have laws changed to benefit yourself tax wise and enviromentally damaging wise... is a tad different to Meghan not* doing 40 minutes of mentoring?
*Unconfirmed by the way

Viviennemary · 06/08/2021 13:15

I thought we had agreed not to get personal. That didn't last long did it.

Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:15

There is absolutely no way that RF critics on this thread defending Meghan would agree that it’s ok for William to not litter pick for 40 minutes if he was asking everyone else to do it, because he passionately believes this is one step to building a better environment. But not passionate enough to contribute to the effort himself. And I would agree with you because it's wrong

And yes you agree. William is urging environmental changes whilst not practising it with hundreds of thousands of acres of land within his own family.
He surely is not passionate enough about this as he isn't urging the Queen to think again. It's happened. The RF are exempt from the laws applied to the public.

Roussette · 06/08/2021 13:17

I thought we had agreed not to get personal

I apologise Vivienne.

I do find your post very rude though. But an apology is an apology, I've had enough personal attacks and I shouldn't have said that.