Harry in the UK

[Mummy194]

Well Harry is looking quite good. Suntanned and healthy. The glow of new parent perhaps. Just seen his video on Diana awards and he looked so happy when visiting Wellchild too.

I'm sure his charities were happy to keep in touch with him.

www.wellchild.org.uk/2021/06/30/remarkable-young-people-and-professionals-from-across-the-uk-receive-national-wellchild-award-from-the-duke-of-sussex/

www.instagram.com/dianaaward/

Sadly, that report sounds very possible and a reflection of the level of trust between all parties concerned.

@Viviennemary

I'd be amazed if William was ever on friendly terms again after what they've done. His reign will probably have enough problems without the threat of those two in the background stirring up trouble.

Yes, he'll tolerate him on occasions when H appears for the global attention but their relationship is over unless H apologises and I can't see that happening, he seems to actually believe his pity party narrative. Maybe he will reflect and apologise once his 'use by' date is up in the US and he flounders when no-one really wants to hear how everyone was mean to him anymore.

I'd be amazed if Harry's ever willing to be friendly towards William after the BRF bullied and racially abused his wife to the point of suicide, were racist about his unborn child, and leaked/sold stories to the tabloids as part of a vicious smear campaign against him and his wife, including repeating Harry and Meghan's private conversations on a regular basis for three years.

@ohforarainyday

I'd be amazed if Harry's ever willing to be friendly towards William after the BRF bullied and racially abused his wife to the point of suicide, were racist about his unborn child, and leaked/sold stories to the tabloids as part of a vicious smear campaign against him and his wife, including repeating Harry and Meghan's private conversations on a regular basis for three years.

Ah, speculations stated as facts again!

Who is it that has the investigation for bullying ongoing about them at the moment? I seem to have forgotten.

Why is RF not having a public investigation into the racism claims? What are they afraid of?

And what were the outcome of the bullying claims? Quite interesting that despite stated atrocious behaviours by Charles and Andrew, only the mixed race woman is investigated for allegedly bullying.

Stinks of racism in and of itself

ohforarainyday

I'd be amazed if Harry's ever willing to be friendly towards William

I can see this mattering on a personal, family level and it's always sad when families fall out.

On a non-personal, world stage setting, it doesn't matter how Harry feels about William.
Unless there's a huge upheaval (and there may be), William will be king of the UK and and an important historical figure in his own right with everything that comes with that, financially and socially.

Harry won't and may find it more difficult to forge his own way if he's kept on the outskirts of the royal family.

Allegedly @ohforarainyday allegedly and if you don't believe gossip and unsubstantiated claims about the Sussexes you shouldn't believe unsubstantiated allegations about the Cambridges.

'And what were the outcome of the bullying claims? '

I think these things take time to collate all the evidence etc

Bullying claims are investigated all the time in the public sector. As our claims of discrimination including on the grounds of race and mental health.

Why doesn’t the RF let public bodies investigate all the claims? There are entirely competent bodies already in place, funded by taxpayers for precisely this purpose.

Instead we have a muddled process with Chinese whispers and unnamed sources to sway public opinion. Wonderful that our top institution is governed in such a ramshackle way

And while they are investigating bullying claims, I hope they look at the behaviour of Charles and Andrew as well.

And with regard to racism, they examine whether RF has discriminated against minorities in their hiring. Along with the racism allegations made recently.

You know, shine a proper light and investigate thoroughly

'And what were the outcome of the bullying claims?

You know when I referred to them as an 'ongoing' investigation? It's ongoing

So why refer to an “ongoing” investigation (where exactly is it at?), except to somehow cast aspersions on MM?

And what exactly had you forgotten?!

Some people seem to revel in double speak and slimy innuendoes. 🤔

Why doesn’t the RF let public bodies investigate all the claims? There are entirely competent bodies already in place, funded by taxpayers for precisely this purpose

Instead we have a muddled process with Chinese whispers and unnamed sources to sway public opinion. Wonderful that our top institution is governed in such a ramshackle way

^ This.

The ongoing bullying claim has been put off till next year hasn't it? It was due to come out in the Sovereign Grant report (published a few weeks ago), now it's going to be next year's Report which is June 2022. Must be bad! (not). It will just die a death, especially as the instigator of it all is leaving (Jason Knauf)

No, the claim has not been put off. The enquiry is ongoing. It is being conducted by an external body and it was always said it would take as long as required. Perhaps there is more to investigate than initially thought?

@Skiptheheartsandflowers

I don't much read private eye, but I thought it was some kind of tongue in cheek blind gossip sort.

And is that an actual article, or letter from the readers. Because the person seem to have shoehorned MM into the mix of a project that started before her marriage. Also, the BM were going on about how it's H&W project and would throw KM in the mix - even though she never met Diana herself.

Well.... let's see what comes out in June 2022. Personally I think nothing.

[quote Mummy194]@Skiptheheartsandflowers

I don't much read private eye, but I thought it was some kind of tongue in cheek blind gossip sort.

And is that an actual article, or letter from the readers. Because the person seem to have shoehorned MM into the mix of a project that started before her marriage. Also, the BM were going on about how it's H&W project and would throw KM in the mix - even though she never met Diana herself.[/quote]
'Some sort of blind gossip' I really would recommend everyone reads Private Eye. They do proper journalism. The page with the statue item on - not the readers' letters page, lol - also has stories on Deloitte's shoddy treatment of its staff, likewise the Home Office, George Osborne's highly suspect recruitment to chair the British Museum, and Barclays' crap virtue signalling over Pride month while still having a massive gender pay gap. They ran stories for years on the sub postmaster scandal where many were convicted of and jailed for fraud when the real problem was the computer system - well ahead on that. Their sources are very good. It's genuinely interesting and is as likely to mock any member of the RF as it is the Sussexes. I think the shoehorning in of M is described by Private Eye, not their idea or their error.

It's definitely the palace. To be fair, all roads lead to William and Kensington Palace.

twitter.com/yuckteeth/status/1411806476474142723

Around 2.18 on this youtube video

Apparently Piers Morgan also received thank you messages from members of the RF.

Yes, rather convenient that Jason K will be well away by the time the bullying allegations are solved. In the meantime, MM's reputation can just stew in suspicions and allegations.

@JaniieJones

Allegedly *@ohforarainyday* allegedly and if you don't believe gossip and unsubstantiated claims about the Sussexes you shouldn't believe unsubstantiated allegations about the Cambridges.

Don't know how this applies, considering that the British media go out of their way to make W&K look good and H&M bad.

@Mummy194

Yes, rather convenient that Jason K will be well away by the time the bullying allegations are solved. In the meantime, MM's reputation can just stew in suspicions and allegations.

Bit like the racist allegations? I mean honestly. They are the actual epitome of hypocrisy. Don't like unfair scrutiny? Well let's just chuck some at the rf instead .

I really can't listen to that Dan Wootton bloke, he is nauseating. For the purposes of research and knowing what I'm talking about (unusual I know lol) I watched a couple of his stints on tortuous GBNews which was enough to put me off for good. ..

What on earth are you on about Janiie?!

They are financially independent, so not sure where the Queen comes into it... except Harry is her grandson. And Always Will Be!

(Let's not talk about taking titles away whilst others keep theirs...)

I wouldn't expect the outcome of the bullying investigation to be made public, at least not officially. At most, it will find that there was misconduct by a principal who effectively resigned several years (by that point) previously. Or maybe it will find that there was no real misconduct, just interpersonal issues between low-ranking staff and that same principal who resigned several years previously. Or maybe it will find that there was misconduct by low-ranking staff, many of whom no longer work there and the rest of whom are too low-ranking for their misconduct to be newsworthy. That's not to say it won't be leaked, but it's not the sort of thing that warrants a press release.

8Some sort of blind gossip' grin I really would recommend everyone reads Private Eye. They do proper journalism. The page with the statue item on - not the readers' letters page, lol - also has stories on Deloitte's shoddy treatment of its staff, likewise the Home Office, George Osborne's highly suspect recruitment to chair the British Museum, and Barclays' crap virtue signalling over Pride month while still having a massive gender pay gap. They ran stories for years on the sub postmaster scandal where many were convicted of and jailed for fraud when the real problem was the computer system - well ahead on that. Their sources are very good. It's genuinely interesting and is as likely to mock any member of the RF as it is the Sussexes. I think the shoehorning in of M is described by Private Eye, not their idea or their error.*
Precisely. Private Eye have had pieces mocking the Royal Family for decades. This is not one of them though. This is journalistic article.