Harry in the UK

[Mummy194]

Well Harry is looking quite good. Suntanned and healthy. The glow of new parent perhaps. Just seen his video on Diana awards and he looked so happy when visiting Wellchild too.

I'm sure his charities were happy to keep in touch with him.

www.wellchild.org.uk/2021/06/30/remarkable-young-people-and-professionals-from-across-the-uk-receive-national-wellchild-award-from-the-duke-of-sussex/

www.instagram.com/dianaaward/

@CallmeHendricks

I hope they don't return for the Jubilee. It doesn't seem to me that they rate the constitution of the Royal Family very highly, so why would they want to honour it, other than to get their faces shown? Their appearance here would make the whole thing about them, when the spotlight should remain firmly on the Queen. To be honest, I'm sick of hearing about the pair of them and would like them to stay away, living their best life and let the Royal Family regroup and attempt to repair some of the damage that's been caused.

agree.

Maybe they were busy. Who knows? But the absolute indecent haste with which he left didn’t really leave any opportunity to see anyone. If they came over for another event in September as per the rumours, would they see the family them or just zap in for the event and then leave again. If they did, what would be the point? I can imagine that if they didn’t bring the children with them they would be saying that they need to get back. But then why come in the first place? The only reason can be to keep themselves in the public eye as members of the RF, imo.

Spotify want more for their £18 million than the 35 minutes of content they've received so far When was it ? back in December ? That’s one expensive podcast.

It does seem a shit to have produced one single podcast. Lots of celebrities are churning them out on a weekly basis for a lot less money.

yes to this: *The only reason can be to keep themselves in the public eye as members of the RF, imo..

The thing is who are their target audience ? And what content do they want to create ?
Saying we want to share stories that inspire, is very vague , inspire what exactly? And who?

at the moment their popularity stem from two things , Meghan being Bi racial and married to the British RF, and Harry being Royal. Take away the royal connection and you have nothing to talk about .

I think they are pushing doors to see what suits them, trying to find their niche. If it hadn't been for the pandemic they may have found it by now and they are not alone in that. They can take their time looking around because they are well off but everybody needs something to do that they enjoy and is rewarding in other ways. Meghan may be itching to go back to acting, who knows? I wouldn't blame her, I'm sure she misses it, but her circumstances have changed.

Of course Harry had to go back home quickly, he has a wife and two little children, one only about a month old. If he'd stayed a fortnight he would have been criticised for that. The days of the aristocracy leaving their children for months at a time is over.

I wish them success and happiness.

Maggiesfarm

“Of course Harry had to go back home quickly, he has a wife and two little children, one only about a month old. If he'd stayed a fortnight he would have been criticised for that. The days of the aristocracy leaving their children for months at a time is over.”

Nobody is suggesting he stayed a fortnight or longer , just another couple of days to try to re-establish a relationship with his closest relatives . Yes , he has young children however I doubt M was on her own and I would like to think she would be keen for him to sort things out over here.
I too wish them happiness but seriously doubt H is.

You take away the RF connection and you are left with two people who have worked with charities for years, the UN, the forces and several causes.

They can go to the Jubilee to support H's grandmother. They may disagree with how the firm works in some things, but I'm sure they are happy with others like charity work and you cannot take away HMQ's role for years, so yes, they may be supportive of and celebrate her anniversary.

@Nanasueathome

There’s a thread running about Archewell Archewell: compassion in action Very interesting

I think you mean a witch hunt rather than a thread. lol

An airtight anti-litigation t&c that can be found anywhere where the individuals are high profile and may be targets of all sorts of people who would love to sue them or get them at any moment. If anything were to happen like a lawsuit, everyone would say they were silly not to have this in place.

It’s not the anti litigation in itself that seems problematic, though. It’s the handing over of all rights to your own story.

Isn't that normal? I thought it was with anything like this. Don't we do this on here? Hence the likes of Express/DFail trawling here for stories that they end up printing.

I never put anything on here that I wouldn't want lifted and put in the likes of the DM!

And all the handwringing on Archewell and its productions.

Some of Netflix highest deals are not that productive either. But they are used to this, and its more a marathon rather than a sprint. Their biggest deal was with Ryan Murphy who has made some rather underwhelming 6 productions for 300M. Rhonda Grimes at 150M has so far done brilliantly with Bridgerton. But she did sign in 2017. The creators of GoT, signed 200M in 2019 and we are yet to see a show from them. Several others like Kenya Barris and others also had just 1 or 2 shows that have not been that popular. Netflix has reportedly found shows from newcomers and unknown actors and people in them as well as reality is bringing them lots of viewership and they are investing heavily on that .

For Spotify, their most popular show The Josh Rogan show pulls in around 190M downloads per episode. Reportedly, he made around 250M in just ads in one year. Some of his more controversial shows have been pulled. Now, obviously H&M will not be doing this kind of show, but I think they will probably be put in the high rate ad revenue stream by Spotify. A bit like when Michelle Obama podcast only has very few shows.

For the first time in a long time I respected Harry (on the 2/7)
He brought his woes down on himself I know but he still had to face William's coldness and he did it just the right amount of warmth. He looked like it was a nightmare for him but he tried to be himself. William looked like a block of ice. I get that William is annoyed and betrayed but for that reason I think it was a tougher gig for Harry.

We all wish them happiness, but I wish they’d stop with whining and complaining and just move on.

@Mummy194

You take away the RF connection and you are left with two people who have worked with charities for years, the UN, the forces and several causes.

To be perfectly honest though Mummy194, there are loads and loads of people who have worked in the military, for the third sector and for big NGOs, at senior levels, for their whole careers. I know several myself. That doesn’t make them able to command multi-million dollar creative deals, in the real world. The USP for the Sussexes is their royal connection.

H is born into the RF, and that is that really, nothing anyone can do about that.
But that on it's own does not guarantee that you will make hundreds of millions though. Look at Prince and Princess Michael, they are not making that much, neither are their son, Zara, Peter and other cousins. Not from lack of trying judging by their deals. So I would say, H&M also add their own popularity in the mix.

@smilesy

It’s not the anti litigation in itself that seems problematic, though. It’s the handing over of all rights to your own story.

If you want to hold on to something, you do not give it away. That is what donating is. If you want to hold on to it and subsequent profits, you are better off selling your product and donating what you want, or if you want your product to be promoted by the charity, then you specify a certain percentage to go to charity and you keep the profits.

You can either be a donor or an investor.

If you make an piece of artwork, and you donate it to charity, they can do what they want. They can make postcards, placemats etc. whatever they want and it will stay with them. That is a donation.

If you give your church 1K donation and they say they are investing the collected money in renting out a property (say for the upkeep of their soup kitchen), you cannot keep coming back demanding a share of that profit, as you were a donor. If you wanted that share, then you should have gone the investor route.

Well yes if it is donating ongoing profits or benefit to charities. What is not clear on the Archewell website is what would be used for those purposes and what will be used for Netflix and Spotify content.

Oops posted too soon. And as others have said elsewhere, those terms would probably not be enforceable as a contract as only one of the sides entering into the contract would be gaining anything. For a contract to be valid, there has to be give and take in both sides. Anyway, this is derailing this thread as it is being discussed elsewhere 😀

@BadgerB

Catherine is a working member of the RF; Meghan (1) has resigned from that, and (2) she's just had a baby. Oh! and (3) why does she get a say?

Harry gets a say as it's his mother?

Obviously, I don't know the whys and wherefores about who was to be in attendance, on the day, but am guessing they decided to keep it fairly low-key, in the circumstances

Private Eye's item in the new issue on the Diana statue and unveiling arrangements. I feel a bit sorry for Ian Rank-Broadley now.

I'd be amazed if William was ever on friendly terms again after what they've done. His reign will probably have enough problems without the threat of those two in the background stirring up trouble.