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Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020

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SnottyLottie · 24/06/2021 07:47

news.sky.com/story/duke-and-charles-paid-substantial-sum-to-harry-and-meghan-after-megxit-but-couple-paid-back-rent-for-frogmore-cottage-12340192

Prince Harry revealed in his Oprah interview that the Sussexes stopped receiving money from the royal family in the first quarter of 2020. However, newly published accounts reveal that Prince Charles continued to financially support the Sussexes until summer 2020.

I wonder if this is going to be a case of their truth or incorrect wording on Harry’s behalf. Interesting!

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ACPC · 30/06/2021 18:01

I think he's told meghan a lot of rubbish or not corrected her assumptions about being in the RF. Why would they knowingly get things so wrong in public? The titles, security, money etc its all been really odd.

Angrycat2768 · 30/06/2021 18:24

@ACPC

I think he's told meghan a lot of rubbish or not corrected her assumptions about being in the RF. Why would they knowingly get things so wrong in public? The titles, security, money etc its all been really odd.
I agree. I think he was so desperate for the relationship to work that he glossed over all the stuff that made his other girlfriends run for the hills. Even I knew that Charles wanted to trim down the Royals when he was King. Harry must have known, yet suddenly Meghan thinks it's just because it's her? He knew exactly what his family was and he knew exactly what his role in the set up was, as it's been the same for hundreds of years!
BirdsandBeesmakinghay · 30/06/2021 18:27

@smilesy

I saw an opinion piece somewhere the other day (sorry to be vague) that suggested that H is saying one thing when he is in contact with his family and the going back to Meghan and saying something else. This suggests to me something that I have suspected all along, namely, that he is easily led and eager to please the person he is with at the time. I don’t know if this is true, of course, but not would certainly explain some of his more contradictory behaviour 🤔🤷‍♀️
He definitely think he tells her what she wants to hear all the time. Right from the start. I think he’s denying his heritage and his family to fit in with what she wants. He’s twisting himself into all sorts of shapes to please her and losing himself in the process. One day it will all catch up with him. I literally think he just nods along all the time .
DeRigueurMortis · 30/06/2021 18:58

@ACPC

I think he's told meghan a lot of rubbish or not corrected her assumptions about being in the RF. Why would they knowingly get things so wrong in public? The titles, security, money etc its all been really odd.

I've no idea but the other narrative is he simply didn't know a lot of this.

He's been a Prince from birth. Always had security and money from Charles.

Perhaps he assumed these were "for keeps" and that his children would be surly entitled in turn.

That narrative is a better fit with their exit manifesto.

Neither of them considered that their actions were unprecedented (the abdication was very different circumstances of a much more senior royal - "the royal").

Personally I'm more inclined to believe they were both very naive in their expectations of what could and should have been given to them when they wanted this half in/half out, half assed arrangement.

Of course Harry should have known or at least discussed potential outcomes but I don't get the impression that he's a look first, jump after sort of person.

After all he's never had to be. The protection of being royal has always given him a soft landing irrespective of his (sometimes dubious) behaviour.

CauliflowerCheese30 · 30/06/2021 19:07

They should have done their homework, they didn't get the half in half out they wanted, so they should have looked into what would happen, just assuming they would get security if they left was wrong on their part. I mean, I work 2 jobs, 7 days a week during term time, I want to give up my weekend job, but I've worked out that I can't afford to, because I'm an adult and looked into it.

smilesy · 30/06/2021 19:21

I think they bought into the idea that they brought “star quality” to the RF and so assumed that they would be able to dictate the terms of their exit. They had a rude awakening when they found out this was not so.

Marmaladeagain · 30/06/2021 21:12

Chiefinspector - they are such perfect characters. Derek - it's the cucumber that I think of and the scanner noise.

Must admit I have an on-going mental association with H&M and Spinal Tap - at the time of the Oprah interview I posted it reminded me of the garden scene in Spinal tap discussing the exploding drummers.

Everything H&M say about their perceived bad treatment is like a new script for Spinal Tap that needs making.

BirdsandBeesmakinghay · 30/06/2021 23:20

@smilesy

I think they bought into the idea that they brought “star quality” to the RF and so assumed that they would be able to dictate the terms of their exit. They had a rude awakening when they found out this was not so.
Spot on
bluebell34567 · 01/07/2021 01:26

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bluebell34567 · 01/07/2021 01:32

@Roussette

Umm... the RF do live in bubbles. Not sure how you can say otherwise CrazyCats The RR make it up as they go along, so I take little notice of what they say. If a RR like Robert Lacey says something, I just take it with a pinch of salt. The likes of Ingrid Seward, Nicholas Witchell, Penny Junor... their job is to make something out of nothing because they do not have particular access to the Royals so they flower it up, or down, and talk like they are best buddies with the Royals when they're not!

On the engagement interview, the die might not have been cast for you CHiefInspector but it was for a lot of people. There were a heck of a lot of negative threads on here at the time, horrible thread titles, nasty posts about her, it was endless.

about the engagement interview;

i tried to see her as an American there but when she was confirming whatever H said with 'well said' etc. i felt thats strange, you are not his mother, he is an adult, he shouldnt need your confirming like that.

bluebell34567 · 01/07/2021 01:36

@SallyLockheart

Roussette, you missed the bit where Chief said

(I will say that lately, most of the vitriol seems to flow the other way, from MM defenders towards other posters.)

and I would agree with Chief on that. Not disputing prior year threads, btw, just the current situation

agree.
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Allington · 01/07/2021 10:08

@smilesy

I think they bought into the idea that they brought “star quality” to the RF and so assumed that they would be able to dictate the terms of their exit. They had a rude awakening when they found out this was not so.
I think you've hit the nail on the head.
SueSaid · 01/07/2021 11:40

@smilesy

I think they bought into the idea that they brought “star quality” to the RF and so assumed that they would be able to dictate the terms of their exit. They had a rude awakening when they found out this was not so.
Yes, absolutely sums it up. Disgruntled and resentful they then refused to go quietly..
Roussette · 01/07/2021 12:26

Well.... Harry looks pretty happy to me in the recent footage. Not the slightest bit 'disgruntled' or 'resentful'.
He's thriving.

SallyLockheart · 01/07/2021 12:28

I actually think Harry & Meghan did have star quality but overplayed their hand and didn't seem to or want to realise that making millions from commercialising the RF wasn't allowed.

Maggiesfarm · 01/07/2021 12:33

@SallyLockheart

I actually think Harry & Meghan did have star quality but overplayed their hand and didn't seem to or want to realise that making millions from commercialising the RF wasn't allowed.
I agree about the star quality and thought it was awful that they felt they should leave the UK permanently.

They are still feeling their way in the USA, there has been lockdown and they've had another baby. They're bound to make mistakes but it will work out eventually.

What I would like (not that they'd take any notice of me), is for them to be here for long periods with their children.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 01/07/2021 13:19

What I would like (not that they'd take any notice of me), is for them to be here for long periods with their children

That ought to be perfectly doable in the next few years, before either child begins formal education. They could come over and do a long summer break in the UK, catch the best available weather and spend time with the Queen at Balmoral. Lots of privacy there too. If Meghan is less keen on country pursuits, as was said of Diana, then she could spend some of that time catching up with her London friends while Harry takes the kids and hangs out with his side of the family.

SueSaid · 01/07/2021 13:53

@SallyLockheart

I actually think Harry & Meghan did have star quality but overplayed their hand and didn't seem to or want to realise that making millions from commercialising the RF wasn't allowed.
Yes it's a shame but as long as they've now realised they can't do as they please rf wise then maybe they'll just continue to thrive in LA.

I just hope we don't hear snippets from cbs about what was said to whom. Just have some class and dignity and keep it all private from now on.

Mummy194 · 01/07/2021 14:40

I just hope we don't hear snippets from cbs about what was said to whom. Just have some class and dignity and keep it all private from now on.

Maybe William can stop briefing Royal Nikkah about the calls in the first place, then Harry will not be asked for his comment on the subject matter.

SallyLockheart · 01/07/2021 14:42

They weren't driven out of the UK - their desire to earn shedloads of money drove them out of the UK, rather than stay and be stars in the RF in the UK. Yes, they were always going to be second to William and Kate - that the monarchy for you - but there seemed to be plenty of scope and plenty of areas they could have shone in and done things their (RF) way.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 01/07/2021 14:55

@Mummy194

I just hope we don't hear snippets from cbs about what was said to whom. Just have some class and dignity and keep it all private from now on.

Maybe William can stop briefing Royal Nikkah about the calls in the first place, then Harry will not be asked for his comment on the subject matter.

Thought you said the other day Mummy that negative posts about William or Kate got immediately zapped? Let's see, shall we?

Also, where's your evidence of William briefing journalists? Gayle King was the person who had said that conversations hadn't been 'productive' at one point, which makes it seem pretty certain that briefing came from the Sussexes. So we know they leak details of their conversations with William. Please post your source of it happening the other way around!

Oldbutstillgotit · 01/07/2021 14:56

Mummy194

“Maybe William can stop briefing Royal Nikkah about the calls in the first place, then Harry will not be asked for his comment on the subject matter.”

Examples ? Proof ?

ajandjjmum · 01/07/2021 14:56

They had a great opportunity with the Commonwealth, which I would have thought would have suited them perfectly. Travelling, being greeted as 'stars' and being involved in different cultures whilst able to advance their particular charity agenda. I think HM really got that one right, but sadly it wasn't to be.

Oldbutstillgotit · 01/07/2021 14:57

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