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Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020

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SnottyLottie · 24/06/2021 07:47

news.sky.com/story/duke-and-charles-paid-substantial-sum-to-harry-and-meghan-after-megxit-but-couple-paid-back-rent-for-frogmore-cottage-12340192

Prince Harry revealed in his Oprah interview that the Sussexes stopped receiving money from the royal family in the first quarter of 2020. However, newly published accounts reveal that Prince Charles continued to financially support the Sussexes until summer 2020.

I wonder if this is going to be a case of their truth or incorrect wording on Harry’s behalf. Interesting!

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Roussette · 29/06/2021 08:02

Would you think there is anything she could do that is good, proficient, clever, talented?

Personally, I always look for the good in people. Not the bad.

Mummy194 · 29/06/2021 08:19

I'm quite sure that it was reported MM gave courses in calligraphy and bookbinding.

She did this for weddings, including for Robin Thicke and Dolce and Gabanna.

She probably knows more about it than you.

Cacacoisfarraige · 29/06/2021 08:23

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Allington · 29/06/2021 08:56

@Roussette

Would you think there is anything she could do that is good, proficient, clever, talented?

Personally, I always look for the good in people. Not the bad.

What a shame Harry doesn't take that approach with his family...
ChiefInspectorParker · 29/06/2021 08:59

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Roussette · 29/06/2021 09:21

Allington, I was talking about Meghan

Roussette · 29/06/2021 09:23

Good to see Chief inspector! Smile

Am on phone so can't highlight properly sorry

Serenster · 29/06/2021 09:24

Calligraphy I actually do know quite a bit about! My mother studied it for years as a hobby while while I was growing up. There is a difference between “formal” calligraphy and Meghan’s handwriting, but to a layperson those are nitpicking differences. Bottom line, she has nice handwriting, and yes, I can see why she was able to sell her services to hand write invitations etc.

If you are interested, formal calligraphy involves choosing the font you want to use, in which every letter is formed the same way, and then carefully planning out the spacing of each letter before forming them. You can then add decorative elements to the finished text if you like. It’s generally time consuming and normally you need special pen nibs for it (they are wide, like a highlighter tip). You can see the all-important spacing on this example picture. Very good calligraphers can freehand it, but you need to be pretty skilled to do so.

Meghan, by contrast, writes in nice copperplate handwriting (which used to be how all school children were taught to write 100 years ago, but not so much now) and then adds flourishes to individual letters. You can see it’s not consistent in this example - it’s on a couple of “h”s and “d”s in this extract, but not all. Still looks nice, though. To an expert, it’s not calligraphy, but then that’s not exactly a legally defined term, so meh.

Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020
Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020
Roussette · 29/06/2021 09:25

I just find criticising her calligraphy a bit petty.
We're not all perfect at what we do with hobbies etc

Mummy194 · 29/06/2021 09:34

Did someone actually just do a whole long convoluted post on how bad MM's calligraphy is?

@ChiefInspectorParker. Had to lol at your erm list. Thanks for the laugh.

@Cacacoisfarraige
I think it helps to change the setting on your google search from hiding any good news about MM, then you wouldn't have to come on here and ask people to link articles that are freely available even a 9yr old can find.

www.you.co.uk/meghan-markle-fashion-pack-putting-calligraphy-back-loop/

www.calligraphybyct.com/blog/2018/4/3/meghan-markles-background-as-a-calligrapher

What a funny thread. 😂😂

Serenster · 29/06/2021 09:46

Well, if you’re referring to me Mummy, no I didn’t, since I was actually complimentary about it., Good to know you don’t bother reading posts, though.

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Serenster · 29/06/2021 09:56

Also, @Mummy194 if you look at the pictures of Robyn Thicke’s wedding invitations on your second link, you can see the difference between that (which is proper calligraphy) and Meghan’s handwriting as shown in, for example, the letter to her father. Obviously, she can do the calligraphy, but does not write in that style day-to-day (which makes perfect sense as it’s very time consuming). She has obviously adapted a personal style of handwriting based on the calligraphy she has learned. For the avoidance of doubt, that’s not a criticism! Grin .

SallyLockheart · 29/06/2021 10:10

[quote Cacacoisfarraige]@Mummy194

Welll as no-one else can find the evidence that William dressed up in blackface that you have stated ‘is all over the internet’ my google settings are clearly different to yours

What’s your setting - fantasy with a hint of libel ?

As a result I can’t take anything you say seriously without proof.[/quote]
Grin Grin Grin

ChiefInspectorParker · 29/06/2021 10:59

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Mummy194 · 29/06/2021 11:01

Sorry @Serenster, your complement must have got lost somewhere between " There is a difference between “formal” calligraphy and Meghan’s handwriting", something something, and "Meghan, by contrast,............" (some long explanation here again), "To an expert, it’s not calligraphy..............." (another long explanation).

I think a simple she has nice calligraphy would have done.

Mummy194 · 29/06/2021 11:04

Kind of reminds me of a poster - on here I think. They said they are objective, and in exactly the same post called H&M money grabbers and all the usual. They did not end there though, because they went on to post a hundred more disparaging posts afterwards.

Mummy194 · 29/06/2021 11:05

Yours @Cacacoisfarraige is 'fantasy with massive dose of amnesia'

SueSaid · 29/06/2021 11:11

'You can see it’s not consistent in this example - it’s on a couple of “h”s and “d”s in this extract, but not all. Still looks nice, though. To an expert, it’s not calligraphy, but then that’s not exactly a legally defined term, so meh.'

Yes you're right, she has nice handwriting. A bit ott with the flourishes but each to their own! Better than my illegible scrawl.

ajandjjmum · 29/06/2021 11:13

@Roussette

ajjajjmum I think you misunderstood my comment when I said they can't win and I've said this for years. I'm referring to me and threads on here right from before they were married, it was in response to a comment about charity donations. I did not refer to their time in the RF. As I say, they can't win, they've had criticism on here for years.

Now her calligraphy isn't calligraphy, just poncey handwriting with swirly bits lololol.
Funny how she had lessons in calligraphy and worked as a freelance calligrapher but lets not let facts get in the way of having a dig at her 🤣

I take your point, and although I am not a fan of M & H, know there has been masses of unreasonable criticism (such as the calligraphy) amongst that which (imo) is deserved.

But even when you are saying 'they've had criticism on here for years' - they haven't been together for 'years' as I think of it. That was what I meant, even if I wasn't clear how I expressed it!

The first thread I found on here about Meghan was November 2017 - that's less than four years ago.

Cacacoisfarraige · 29/06/2021 11:16

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Roussette · 29/06/2021 11:20

But four years is 'years' surely? I don't understand why my comment can be picked up on, when I meant nothing odd.

I think her handwriting is lovely, whether it's calligraphy or not. My dear old Mum had beautiful handwriting, I put my awful scrawl down to having learnt shorthand, it all went downhill after that Grin

SallyLockheart · 29/06/2021 11:21

[quote Cacacoisfarraige]@Mummy194

So I’ve amnesia because I can’t find your fantasy posts about PW and his ‘blackface party’ ?[/quote]
and likewise, I have asked you to clarify your assertions regarding significant donations made personally by harry and meghan - not the non-personal ones you reference in that screen shot - and you have yet to provide proof.
Not that you have to provide proof - after all this is a chat site - but if you want to make credible assertions, you need to back them up.
As in the William and blackface "story"

SallyLockheart · 29/06/2021 11:26

@Roussette

But four years is 'years' surely? I don't understand why my comment can be picked up on, when I meant nothing odd.

I think her handwriting is lovely, whether it's calligraphy or not. My dear old Mum had beautiful handwriting, I put my awful scrawl down to having learnt shorthand, it all went downhill after that Grin

its not really four years, though, is it. married in may 2018, archie was born in May 2019 so there was quite rightly reduced royal activities before then, and then they had a break in Canada in November 2019 and announced their departure in January 2020, effective March 2020.

so their time in the RF has been really very very short.