Harry to sue BBC

[Viviennemary]

I just read Harry is going to sue the BBC for announcing the Queen wasn't consulted over the name Lilibet. They said she was told of their plans . Maybe told isnt quite the same as consulted. When is this all going to end. Seems to be getting worse instead of improving.

This was deliberate on their part.

Yes they are deliberately rebutting the Sussex version of the story. So either it's not true, or the Queen did give permission and then asked her staff to lie about it. Or I suppose the BBC reporter could have made it up.

And theyre the ones who made accusations of racism towards a royal family member. Not just an accusation to a faceless source. I think the Palace is absolutely right to speak out against inaccuracies. Harry should have realised how totally inappropriate it was to use the name in view of the branding they've already set up. They couldn't wait. I bet Prince Louis name isn't branded. If anyone should brand the name Lilibet its the Queen herself. It's her name.

[quote Mummy194]@Zzelda

If the BBC phoned the palace a simple the Queen is happy with the birth of the baby. If BBC pushes on the question of did they get permission - don't know why they would actually, then a it was personal talks between HMQ and Harry not really to do with the firm, along those lines would have sufficed. No one was caught of guard, the palace PR knows the score. This was deliberate on their part.[/quote]
But, again, why don't you want the palace to answer that question if it was put to them? As indicated above, it was Harry who introduced the implication/assertion that they had permission, it was perfectly legitimate for the BBC to seek to clear that up because, obviously, if he had permission that would have disposed of the issue once and for all.

The article is still on the BBC website.

They're clearly confident in their source and are standing by it.

Seems prince petulant's bullying tactics have failed. Is he going to take the national broadcaster to court? Good luck with that one.

Well.... MM managed to take the ghastly DM to court. And won.

Everyone was convinced she wouldn't.

[quote Mummy194]@Zzelda

If the BBC phoned the palace a simple the Queen is happy with the birth of the baby. If BBC pushes on the question of did they get permission - don't know why they would actually, then a it was personal talks between HMQ and Harry not really to do with the firm, along those lines would have sufficed. No one was caught of guard, the palace PR knows the score. This was deliberate on their part.[/quote]
But why do you think the palace should show greater discretion than H&M? Why are they to collude with the H&M PR machine? If asked did HM agree to it and she didn’t, why should they obfuscate the truth?

@Roussette

Well.... MM managed to take the ghastly DM to court. And won.

Everyone was convinced she wouldn't.

Most legal experts I read were fairly confident she would win.

And a libel case is very different from a copyright case.

As I say , the BBC seem very confident in their story. Dimwit has put himself into a very awkward position now. I thought they moved to California to 'find freedom' from the 'toxic' British press but seems they are still utterly obsessed with it, even with a new baby at home. I guess you can't escape your inner turmoil just by moving across th world.

On here it was a done deal she wouldn't win. Iced

Why do you have to call Harry derogatory names???

It's just pathetic. Cant you make your point without doing that?

@Roussette

On here it was a done deal she wouldn't win. Iced

Why do you have to call Harry derogatory names???

It's just pathetic. Cant you make your point without doing that?

Who cares about what random MNers think about a legal case? As I say, the legal experts I read all said she had a very good chance of winning.

And I call people by the names I feel they deserve. Harry is dim. Always has been, but we're seeing his dimness play out in spectacular fashion now. These latest legal shenaigans are proof of that. If you think I am in breach of MN guidelines by all means report. Although why some people are so very protective of this pair is quite beyond me.

I just find name calling like this juvenile and unpleasant. Have an opinion on him by all means but referring to him as 'Dimwit' is a bit much. I'm just not a name caller, so it grates with me, but up to you... others will make their own minds up won't they?

IcedPurple
Cynically I think they've probably realised that without the connection to the British royal family, they're just a wealthy man, who used to be in the forces, and a former actress. They don't have any relevant professional experience in the mental health field and without the royal patron side of things, they need their endless victim story to help their brand.

I had a huge amount of time for Harry's work with forces charities and a lot of respect for it. It seems a shame that he's spending more time on public pity parties and drama to further move into the mental health area, than on something he was probably very good at and had credibility in.

I dont get why they didn't stay in the RF. They could have spent a lot of time abroad on charitable type projects and even lived abroad for a while. But now they are on a chat show merrygoround trying to make money. Can't see how that can be much fun after a while. As it is there is going to be a Prince and Princess brought up in America with little knowledge of royal tradition or their royal relatives. I cant see how that will work out for anybody least of all the children themselves.

@LolaSmiles

IcedPurple Cynically I think they've probably realised that without the connection to the British royal family, they're just a wealthy man, who used to be in the forces, and a former actress. They don't have any relevant professional experience in the mental health field and without the royal patron side of things, they need their endless victim story to help their brand.

I had a huge amount of time for Harry's work with forces charities and a lot of respect for it. It seems a shame that he's spending more time on public pity parties and drama to further move into the mental health area, than on something he was probably very good at and had credibility in.

I would have agreed with you on the last bit 2 years ago, but now I think more and more that the 'old Harry' was a PR creation and of course he had a whole team of expert staff doing most of the real work for him.

What we're seeing now is the real Harry, and it ain't pretty.

@Viviennemary

I dont get why they didn't stay in the RF. They could have spent a lot of time abroad on charitable type projects and even lived abroad for a while. But now they are on a chat show merrygoround trying to make money. Can't see how that can be much fun after a while. As it is there is going to be a Prince and Princess brought up in America with little knowledge of royal tradition or their royal relatives. I cant see how that will work out for anybody least of all the children themselves.

It is just going to emphasise what an artificial construct “Prince” or “Princess” is, I think, (assuming M&H accept Prince and Princess titles for the children when the time comes).

It’s a nonsense, medieval idea that some people inherit special titles & deference, wherever it is used. The silliness of it just becomes starker once you remove the castles, footmen and ceremonial folderol. California and royalty is the daftest possible combination.

Meghan did claim that titles don’t matter to her, and the US supposedly doesn’t recognise royal titles so maybe at some point, they’ll all just become the Mountbatten-Windsors?

Sadly for all I think the family have been both disguising and enabling for many years . It’s so hard you give in thinking it will make things better but in fact you have just enabling them and making it worse. You protect them from the consequences of their actions because you love them but then because they never face the consequences things never change and also they never feel heard because you are constantly covering for them. It’s a very sad situation .

@Viviennemary

I dont get why they didn't stay in the RF. They could have spent a lot of time abroad on charitable type projects and even lived abroad for a while. But now they are on a chat show merrygoround trying to make money. Can't see how that can be much fun after a while. As it is there is going to be a Prince and Princess brought up in America with little knowledge of royal tradition or their royal relatives. I cant see how that will work out for anybody least of all the children themselves.

Bear in mind that they never actually wanted to 'leave' the royal family. They wanted a 'half in half out' deal that meant they wouldn't have to open youth centres in Doncaster and could basically set up their own 'royal court' in California. When they got told this wasn't an option, they had little choice - having been silly enough to go public with that ridiculous 'manifesto' - but to fully 'leave'.

And I have my doubts that their children will ever be prince or princess. According to George V's decree, they should be, but this can change with letters patent from King Charles lll. It seems a bit ridiculous for two children who will grow up in California, with parents on the 'outs' with the royal family, to be Prince and Princess of the United Kingdom. Especially as Charles is known to be planning to 'slim down' the royal family.

I don’t think Charles can do that - it will be perceived as a racist move.

Dimwit has put himself into a very awkward position now.

I see only one person objected to this name calling. If people are going to refer to H like this, is it ok for everyone to then refer to other royals with derogatory names?

I do not report posts like this, so that MN can be exposed for the kind of platform they host.

No I really don't care that someone called Harry a dimwit. Quite frankly, right now, he is acting like one. In fact, I think it's remarkably restrained given that he's basically attacking a recently widowed 95 year old woman. Which is disgusting in any circumstances.

Added to which he's started and continues to stir the shit knowing his wife is heavily pregnant and that they had to escape the media for her mental health.

Way To go Harry, what a horrible mess you have created. How many people who's situations you have made a whole lot worse.

I feel quite sorry for MM right now,but the RF are not causing this, her husband is.

Iced Purple, as most people take offence these days at something, I am wondering if I should take offence on behalf of all the youth centres in Sunny Donny but I've decided not to, luv.
I have always wondered whether H and M asked for the half in - half out option in innocent naivety, or whether they were cute enough to see that it was really a no-goer, so they would look good, asking for it, and the Queen or her advisors would look like the grumpies for saying, "No."

After the oprah interview maybe HandM have no credibility left, how did this non story even get into the papers. It feels that they just love to cause controversy for the sake of it, maybe the UK press and media should just stop reporting anything about them, what's the point if all they so is threaten to sue everyone.

@HeadNorth

I am annoyed a publically funded organisation is wasting my money on such a non-newsworthy story. This is basically silly tittle-tattle about a family squabble - fine for the red top rags and people who choose to wallow in that garbage, not a news worth event for the BBC to report on.

The fact that the BBC are reporting it makes me wonder if there’s more to it that they can’t report (yet), TBH. On its own, it’s not really a BBC story, is it?