BBC Martin Bashir - Diana shocked.

[justasking111]

The more that comes out about the panorama interview and the way things were invented/forged. Bank statements, telephone records, stories about the family to encourage Diana to talk to Bashir. I just cannot believe what is emerging from this, things that would have influenced me if I had been Diana and no-one verified it independently.

The BBC is it still government owned?

All this nonsense about the BBC ‘betraying the trust of the licence payers’.

Diana did the interview willingly. Brokered by her brother. She willingly made a show of herself by doing a revealing TV interview full of soundbites about her private life. As did Prince Charles. She deliberately wore an attention grabbing dress on the night he did his interview. She willingly collaborated on a ‘tell all’ book. She was not a naive young woman bamboozled by a wicked journalist.

Her brother is an awful attention seeker who can’t keep it in his pants. I don’t think that anybody covered themselves in glory. I think that the BBC could find better ways to fulfil its brief.

I’d like to know what real news this nonsense is distracting us from.

I'd be livid if I were Prince William too.

@LizzieSiddal

Horehound why don’t you go and read the report put out today? You’ll understand what’s actually going on then.

Oh because I'm knackered...

[quote Horehound]@PinkTonic she was on the car because she was out with her new lover though? I don't see that as being the fallout from the interview.
She had moved on with her life. :/[/quote]
The faked documents and the lies Bashir told her led her to lose all trust in those who were assigned to protect her. If she’d kept the proper protection she wouldn’t have been in a car with a drunk driver whoever she was dating. There is a very clear line between the interview and the final outcome.

Plus she had more than enough money to pay for her own security

Mohammed al Fayad certainly had the money.

So we're told. I doubt that's really the case though. She also wasn't a member of the RF anymore so not sure why she'd have been given royal protection.

It’s a well known fact that the royal family assumed she would have life long security in her divorce settlement. She told them she didn’t want it, we now know the reason for that rather strange decision.

I don't think it does tbh. People are still looking to blame for her death but the reality is she got into a car with a drunk driver that crashed. That is all.

So what do you think normally protects the royal family from being at the mercy of other peoples’ drunk chauffeurs and shoddy security arrangements?

@Zzelda

We're seeing industrial levels of hypocrisy in some of the newspaper reports on this. Special mention to the Mail.

I know what you mean but I feel that everybody who watched that ‘documentary’ is somehow complicit.

[quote Horehound]@RickiTarr thank you for explaining.
Jesus Christ that is beyond the pale. I hope he is sued.[/quote]
Yes, so do I. Or charged with fraud. Or both. Little weasel.

Can someone explain what this is all about?
What are the fake bank statements and how did they make Diana give the interview? Personally I’ve always felt Earl Spencer was pretty culpable does this this somehow vindicate him?

her driver would not be drunk and might have insisted she put her belt on, why should a compos mentis adult need someone else to tell/insist they wear a seat belt?

Silver if you read this thread you’ll find your answers.

The judge doing the review said that letter had no baring on anything, as when Diana wrote it she didn’t realise she had been lied to

I realise that, LIzzie, but the letter stated something didn't happen when it's now quite clear it did. More to the point it was very specific about what was being denied, almost as if someone was keen to get it on record and tucked away (as insurance?)

The contents could have been of no real benefit to herself, only to Bashir/the BBC, which is why I mentioned a "get out of jail free card" and wondered how she came to actually write it

He showed her fake bank statements that made it look as though her staff were accepting large payments from the media, (including her personal protection officer and her office staff). He showed her a faked receipt for an abortion that Tiggy LB allegedly had (she hadn’t). He told her a whole stream of lies about royals and senior staff members. He told her she was being bugged. He told her that the royal family were out to get her and her family. Such a long list of things.

That's appalling. And enough to make a person totally paranoid. I'm not a Diana groupie but good grief, he totally manipulated her. What a piece of work.

@PicsInRed

The timing is weird. Why now? 25 years on?

This feels like an extension of the ongoing attempts to rehabilitate Charles ahead of his accession.

Exactly what part of Diana's interview was false? It may have been embarrassing, and perhaps Martin Bashir manipulated his way to the interview, but what part of her account was false? No, the painful part was all the truths she told.

If William is so livid, perhaps it's time for him to speak out about the ongoing harassment of his sister in law and nephew - which eventually led to the suicidality of his sister in law and his brother choosing to emigrate with his family. William's "livid-ness" is a nonsense and something about all this is very contrived.

Go to bed!

The faked documents and the lies Bashir told her led her to lose all trust in those who were assigned to protect her. If she’d kept the proper protection she wouldn’t have been in a car with a drunk driver whoever she was dating. There is a very clear line between the interview and the final outcome.

And she'd have been cool to bring royal protection officers on her holiday with her new boyfriend? Doubt it. Look, sorry if her death isn't interesting enough but it's highly unlikely that there's a conspiracy theory behind it all or that a journalist is to blame. Her brother is a PITA and a huge publicity-seeker.

There's probably some more dirt on Andy that they're hoping will be covered up.

As for Harry being 'mentally fragile' wtf. He's a 36 year old multi-millionnaire living the life in California. He courts publicity on his own terms and the idea that we should pity him when he has had the world handed to him on a plate is laughable.

@Iamthewombat yes she did, because she believed what Bashir told her. She believed it because she was in a horribly bad place. Bashir likely recognised this vulnerability and went in for the kill. Wounded her up and wound her up will all the fake evidence until he got the reaction from her. She was an easy target. Her brother is equally vulnerable because they were both so naive,

In whose best interests was that interview??? We thought it was hers, because that's what she wanted. We know now that she was manipulated and tortured and confused. So so sad.

I feel so sorry for Tiggy Legge-Bourke and her family. This must be just awful for them.

@justasking111

The BBC is it still government owned?

No, it’s a bit more complicated than that. It’s the official national public service broadcaster and is given the proceeds of the tv licence but I think it’s more like a quango.

In whose best interests was that interview??? We thought it was hers, because that's what she wanted. We know now that she was manipulated and tortured and confused. So so sad.

I think the BBC gave the public what they were looking for.

Her brother is equally vulnerable because they were both so naive

I'm sorry, is this a joke?

Doesn’t anybody think that Harry’s anger and lashing out is partly due to this?

It’s utterly appalling

Those poor boys

That Bashir’s an awful bastard isn’t he

In whose best interests was that interview??? We thought it was hers, because that's what she wanted. We know now that she was manipulated and tortured and confused. So so sad.

William seemed to be saying that she wouldn’t have said those things if she hadn’t been wound up. He was basically saying he wanted the whole interview almost “stricken from the historical record”.