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BBC Martin Bashir - Diana shocked.

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justasking111 · 20/05/2021 19:50

The more that comes out about the panorama interview and the way things were invented/forged. Bank statements, telephone records, stories about the family to encourage Diana to talk to Bashir. I just cannot believe what is emerging from this, things that would have influenced me if I had been Diana and no-one verified it independently.

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PresentingPercy · 23/05/2021 15:42

It’s normal to leave remarks about a dead person to the funeral. Otherwise where does it end? Frankly picking over everything is tiresome and pointless.

upinaballoon · 23/05/2021 16:35

@Ocsetldil

It’s worth remembering that HMTQ sent the two boys off to church in the public glare the morning of Diana’s death announcement whilst she herself did not go to church in the Sunday when The Queen Mother died. Apparently the boys were confused and asked if their mother really had died as there were no prayers for Diana that Sunday and they were then kept in their Balmoral rooms out of the way, with no one referring to Diana at all.

www.rd.com/article/princess-diana-name-banned-church/ This is from the Readers Digest which I would not call bottom feeding press.

William now says that that particular church service gave him comfort but the photos of them in the car looking completely stunned were awful. I’ve always asked why HM did that.

I thought TQ and DoE went to church that morning and the boys went with them. It was the normal routine, certainly for the queen and the duke. I don't think the boys were sent, or made to anything. Of course they would look stunned but it is possible to be in that first stunned blast of bereavement and find comfort from a service. It has been usual for a long time for the names of those who have recently died to be spoken out loud during the intercession prayers, every Sunday, but mostly relations aren't there to hear because few people go to church. I can understand if the Queen asked for Diana's actual name not to be said. I wasn't there. Perhaps they prayed for "the souls of those who have died and for all who mourn". How long were the boys kept in their rooms? Did they have to have their meals in their rooms and not eat with anyone else?
I agree with AnnunciataZ and Iamthewombat that it was a very strange week. Perhaps the Queen looks back on it and thinks she would do a bit differently now, but I think she took an awful lot of undeserved flak that week. Have any of you had a bereavement at an early age and looked back many years later and thought that certain actions would have been better if done differently, but you can see that the adults who loved you at the time did what they saw as best in those circumstances?
ShamedBySiri · 23/05/2021 17:00

Have any of you had a bereavement at an early age and looked back many years later and thought that certain actions would have been better if done differently, but you can see that the adults who loved you at the time did what they saw as best in those circumstances?

My mother handled the death of my father in an extraordinary way. I remember the day she told us he had died and some of the subsequent events very clearly. I was 8 and as they had been divorced since I was a baby had had the least contact with him. My eldest sister was 15 and he had delivered her to a German family for an exchange trip, before returning home and committing suicide. We were all told he had died of a heart attack and it was only as an adult that I thought mid 30's was rather young for that and sent off for his death certificate and discovered the truth. None of us were allowed to attend his funeral. Worst of all was my poor sister. Mum didn't want to spoil her trip so she wasn't told until she returned home.

My sister has expressed some outrage once or twice but mostly one just accepts what has happened and gets on with it.

My mother has a pathological inability to discuss death. My father's death was just the worst manifestation of it. Any family pet or much loved animal that was at the end of days would be quietly disposed of whilst we were at school. One would come home from boarding school and look for the dog or pony and they would be gone....

Not sure she had our best interests at heart. ConfusedHmm

Sylvan92 · 23/05/2021 21:18

@ShamedBySiri that’s awful. I think we are pretty poor as a society about talking about bereavement. I work in a school and unfortunately have had a few dcs in the last year lose parents and family members. I’ve tried so hard to let them know they can talk anytime while respecting the fact that they may just want to be ‘normal’ and not mollycoddled.

smilesy · 28/05/2021 21:18

The Telegraph has printed an article that says that The Crown will be covering Bashir’s “grooming” of Diana and asks if the recent inquiry is as a result of Netflix enquiries into the Panorama interview.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/05/28/crown-will-feature-episodes-martin-bashirs-grooming-princess/

milveycrohn · 29/05/2021 21:44

When someone dies suddenly, especially if young, then there is often shock associated with the death, and I have examples in my own family, when this has not always been handled well.
The Queen appears to have a deep faith, which I dont think is just for show. She may well have thought the service and a normal routine, the best thing. The RF definitely wanted to keep the boys safe at Balmoral, instead of parading them back in London.
The sad thing is, I understood Charles and Diana were getting along much better at the time of her death.

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