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Harry's latest ventures

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Viviennemary · 15/05/2021 18:23

Now being reported in the Daily Express that Harry is working on a new tell all documtary about royal life. This is according to his biographer Angela Levin. And even more disclosures about the royal family are forthcoming. Is this going to go on for years. We shall have to wait and sed. I think its very very wrong of him.

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Gorgeouslilgirl · 20/05/2021 17:04

@LittleBearPad

AGAIN, @Cinclus you are confusing a private intimate ceremony with a LEGAL ceremony

Jerry Hall made the same mistake. Didn’t work out well for her. The legal one is far more important.

Gosh, what words of wisdom 😳 we would never have guessed the legal one is what holds in court
Blossomtoes · 20/05/2021 17:05

@Gorgeouslilgirl

And can the people moaning about the spectacle, don’t you usually argue that the RF is valuable and we should be grateful because of their tourism revenue?

Well, just be grateful to H&M too as their wedding presumably generated RF tourism revenue

I think you’ll find it was the bride moaning about the “spectacle” which she seemed very happy with on the day. I enjoyed the wedding personally.
Gorgeouslilgirl · 20/05/2021 17:07

Do you think M&H should have treated OW chat as a court of law and taken an oath on the bible?

I bet the people who think that are the ones who read the DF and think that stuff is gospel 🤣

Ocsetldil · 20/05/2021 17:08

And if the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge said the same, and that their wedding was a spectacle they didn’t want, we still be Hmm

William joked at the alter to Michael Middleton that they wanted a quiet wedding. I’m sure they did.

LittleBearPad · 20/05/2021 17:08

But there is no difference according to Coke. You can say you’ve got married regardless of whether it’s legal or not. It’s colonial prejudice to point out there’s a difference.

Roussette · 20/05/2021 17:08

When did they say it meant nothing to them? They didn't. They said it was a spectacle. Of course it was! If a royal wedding isn't a spectacle, I don't know what is!

I also do not understand why everyone is so hung up on this. I've had friends in the past have all sorts of ceremonies. I don't begrudge them having something private between them, followed by the spectacle of a royal wedding.

It's just yet another excuse to get all worked up about something. And it goes round and round in circles. We cover it, we talk about it, we argue about it. Then it goes quiet. Then it comes out yet again to talk about when there's really not anything more to say on it.

Same with most things about M&H. All the criticisms are on a permanent loop, to be aired and brought up again when there's nothing new to criticise in the news.

Gorgeouslilgirl · 20/05/2021 17:09

“ I think you’ll find it was the bride moaning about the “spectacle” which she seemed very happy with on the day. I enjoyed the wedding personally.”

Well, then just be grateful to her for providing you that pleasure.

LittleBearPad · 20/05/2021 17:10

@Gorgeouslilgirl

Do you think M&H should have treated OW chat as a court of law and taken an oath on the bible?

I bet the people who think that are the ones who read the DF and think that stuff is gospel 🤣

I think people should tell the truth.
FannyCann · 20/05/2021 17:10

In Australia, you need 2 witnesses to be legally married. Just like in the UK. And in America.

She meant they exchanged private vows 3 days before

Then wtf didn't she say we exchanged private vows? As Harry said "just the three of us" = no witnesses.

How dare you accuse those of us who take marriage and marriage vows seriously of racism and of being obsessive.

If someone is making a tv show that is being shown worldwide they should use the language they mean for avoidance of doubt.

And not only did she not call is a private vow ceremony but she implied the actual wedding was all an awful spectacle that was inflicted upon her. That UK taxpayers stumped up £30 million for. If she didn't want to be part of a spectacle why didn't she do what most divorcees do and have a private registry office ceremony and small church blessing (if The Church means anything to her) and a party?

She insulted The Church, The Archbishop of Canterbury, The Queen, everyone at the wedding and everyone who watched and celebrated at home and with street parties, the U.K. taxpayer even if they weren't minded to celebrate the wedding and the intelligence of all of us.

She also insulted her own wedding and formal sacred vows.

I recall discussing a difficult marital problem with a patient who had been married before and warning her that the issue was likely to be a marriage breaker. Without a moments hesitation she replied "well I've done it before, (divorce) I can do it again".

Time will tell how seriously Meghan takes her vows.

FromEden · 20/05/2021 17:16

"We called the Archbishop and we just said, look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world"

Calling the wedding a "thing" and for the world, not them, certainly implies it meant nothing to them. By all accounts, it what they demanded. Bit rude to get it all paid for and then turn around and say it was shit really isn't it?

Blossomtoes · 20/05/2021 17:19

@Gorgeouslilgirl

“ I think you’ll find it was the bride moaning about the “spectacle” which she seemed very happy with on the day. I enjoyed the wedding personally.”

Well, then just be grateful to her for providing you that pleasure.

I am. 😀
HeadNorth · 20/05/2021 17:20

she implied the actual wedding was all an awful spectacle that was inflicted upon her

'Implied' is carrying a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. MM did not call her wedding an 'awful spectacle that was inflicted on her' - those are your words, not hers.

I found the post about cultiral difference in the perception of pre marriage ceremonies interesting and informative. But then, I don't consider British traditions the gold standard and get in a lather when other nationalities behave differently in line with their own cultures. Vive la difference, I say - it makes for a more interesting and varied world.

Mydogmylife · 20/05/2021 17:21

@LittleBearPad

It’s not a cultural misunderstanding. It’s bollocks
This
derxa · 20/05/2021 17:22

That is an example of racism. Is it?

Binglebong · 20/05/2021 17:25

You periodically get threads on here where someone has a legal ceremony at the registry office and then a big"wedding". And everytime that I've seen the verdict is that it's hurtful and that guests feel lied to. Many people go to see the legal bit because they feel, as I do, that that's the important part. But the thing that really annoys people is they feel the bride and groom are being dishonest to them and it stings.

FannyCann · 20/05/2021 17:28

MM did not call her wedding an 'awful spectacle that was inflicted on her'

We called the Archbishop and we just said, look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world"

OK. She called it a thing. A spectacle for the world. Not what they wanted so they just had to call the Archbishop of Canterbury to come running at a moment's notice and give them the private ceremony they wanted. That presumably they hadn't thought of doing for several months earlier when wedding plans were drawn up.

Itreallyistimetochangethings · 20/05/2021 17:38

@Ocsetldil

I think if Chelsey Davie or Cressida Bonas were now DoS and had said the same, we’d still be raising our eyebrows.
I very much doubt this - what a joke!
CuriousaboutSamphire · 20/05/2021 17:42

@Paquerette

YANBU. How on earth can Harry not see that all of his nastiness towards his family really doesn't put him in a good light? More of Harry's compassion in action?
His life has obviously been quite different to the one we think we saw!

Someone, somewhen has ovelrlooked him, his feelings, his needs. Probably when he was quite small. Possibly not a very big oversight but enough to plant the seed of discontent.

Now he is free of the restrictions of The Firm he is revelling in it, being free, being an individual. He has found a life partner with similar issues and supportive ways of dealing with it all.

He may regret it, he may never ever see that his decisions only make it more likely that family members will have to keep him at arms length - just like we all do in our 'normal' families.

He seems to be quite like BIL - emotionally immature and suddenly, completely in charge of his own life for the first time.

BIL is a chronic alcoholic whose log term sife left him a couple of years agoo. He is now living his best life... permanently pissed and posting memes about having people in his life he needs to cut out because they are not agreeing with him!

Same behaviour, different stimulus... and press worthiness Smile

HeadNorth · 20/05/2021 17:50

So having thoroughly and distastfully speculated on Harry's mental health we have moved onto his wife leaving him and him becoming a chronic alcoholic. I guess since H& M have in no way behaved badly enough to justify the obsessive criticism it eventually becomes necessary for posters to make up stories about them to criticise.

Itreallyistimetochangethings · 20/05/2021 17:51

@CokeDrinker - I understand where you are coming from and I suspect many antis do but they will never admit it. In lots of African cultures there are two ceremonies. The traditional and the western with the priest/ vicar. The traditional is with family and the elders officiate the ceremony. ManyAfrican parents would not consider their children married if they had not had the traditional ceremony. The church / registry event can be as grande as anything - if the traditional has not taken place the marriage is not recognised by the family. So yes there are other ways and views of understanding what a marriage ceremony is to different people and cultures. Many of The younger generation with western influence now see the traditional as the engagement but the elders/ parents do not accept this for them it is the marriage.
Justin Welby only came out to clarify because of the fuss being made. Most people with common sense knew what she meant by the word spectacle - it was a show for the world to see which is true whether you like it or not.

And whoever said Charles had a registry office wedding - his first marriage was a huge spectacle - rightly so they both probably wanted a low key affair for their 2nd marriage

SunbathingDragon · 20/05/2021 17:54

And whoever said Charles had a registry office wedding - his first marriage was a huge spectacle - rightly so they both probably wanted a low key affair for their 2nd marriage

Do second marriages automatically mean low key then? Just so I can let Meghan know, since it was her second marriage...

Blossomtoes · 20/05/2021 17:57

@SunbathingDragon

And whoever said Charles had a registry office wedding - his first marriage was a huge spectacle - rightly so they both probably wanted a low key affair for their 2nd marriage

Do second marriages automatically mean low key then? Just so I can let Meghan know, since it was her second marriage...

Exactly that. The irony that the heir to the throne couldn’t have a church wedding because his bride was divorced but the third in line could.
Itreallyistimetochangethings · 20/05/2021 17:58

@SunbathingDragon

And whoever said Charles had a registry office wedding - his first marriage was a huge spectacle - rightly so they both probably wanted a low key affair for their 2nd marriage

Do second marriages automatically mean low key then? Just so I can let Meghan know, since it was her second marriage...

🙄 🙄 - is that the best you can do- the affair and humiliation they caused to their families is what I'm talking about. But maybe you wouldn't see that.
Roussette · 20/05/2021 17:58

Yes agree with this. We went to a Nigerian close family wedding, a huge part of it was the engagement and saying of vows and other things on one day, and the next day was more traditional wedding ceremony. I have no idea which was the more legal or binding ceremony, all I know is we loved very minute.

I don't think a big wedding would have gone down too well for Charles, given who Camilla was and her part in his previous marriage.

HeadNorth · 20/05/2021 17:58

I think if is is the second marriage with your affair partner it is probably tasteful to keep it on the down low.

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