To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

[fiheka]

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

it annoys me when I think of a father not doing anything about other family members literally turning their back on him

OK. Carry on losing sleep over what happened to total strangers, then.

@YanTanTethera123 We clearly disagree. My Dp said if he died before me he did not want his brother to attend. I told him I was not prepared to stop any member of his family attending as I think it is wrong to do that

My family are highly unlikely to go against my wishes because we’re all in full agreement on this. The family member’s behaviour has got very long term repercussions.

Grow up, dear! All families have black sheep, and boy, Harry is some black sheep.

[quote fiheka]@PegPeople No one is saying Kate and William turned their back on Harry at the funeral. Although Kate especially was rude at the CC.[/quote]
No she wasn't rude she just didn't act fake like H&M.

W&K were supposed to be seated when H&M came in. This was altered as H&M are a pair of whiney babies who don't like the fact that they have a different position to W&K.

Millionaire slags his family off to literally the whole world - including saying "daddy financially cut me off" as he sits in his LA mansion in an Armani suit, complaining the British taxpayer won't fund his security at the other side of the world - while his terminally ill grandfather sees out his last days with his loved one.

I'd probably turn my back on him too TBH. Appalling behaviour.

@fiheka - it annoys me when I think of a father not doing anything about other family members literally turning their back on him.

Are you bugging Prince Charles's phone? How do you know what he said about any alleged snubs? How do you know he didn't take someone to one side behind closed doors? How do you know he didn't rip someone to shreds or gently have a word or stand there cheering? You have no idea because IF anything was done it wasn't done in the full glare of TV cameras - not everyone thinks the RF should act like they're in a soap opera and wash every dirty piece of linen in public (some could learn from that)...

How fluid are her values?

Having a DH who dressed in a Nazi uniform and used racist name calling (all done for the 'lols') and a best friend who was sacked last year for racist bullying is apparently forgivable. A racist comment made (and relayed second hand) by an unnamed member of your DHs family is not forgiveable and rather than being dealt with in private deserves to be called out on a global TV chat show.

I'd say her values are pretty fluid.

@Toilenstripes

Well someone in the family questioned the colour of the skin of their future children. And we know that Princess Michael wore a Blackmoor broach the first time she met Duchess Meghan.

My exH is Israeli. We had many conversations with many people in my pregnancies about "I wonder what colour your children would be". I'm level headed enough to realise this ain't "expressing concern" but simply making conversation out of sheer curiosity. I would bet money on this being a similar conversation, like it is with many mixed race families

And given how NCUH private conversation get leaked to US press I would be making a concerted effort to avoid chats lest Jay Leno tells the world what I said

*much not NUCH 🤦🏼‍♀️

@denverRegina

If this shocks you then don't read any history.

Henry chopped his wife's bloody head off!

This made me lol....

No one really knows donthey certainly jot the Birmingham Mail.. not known for huge scoops.

@fiheka

Okay I think some of you are nastier than me. I would say hello, minimal stuff, then talk to someone else. I am not expecting them to be the best of friends. But physically turning your back and ignoring a family member is very harsh.

It isn't nastiness it's self preservation, if there are no words exchanged they cannot be filed away for future manipulation. Personally I think he was very lucky to have been invited in the circumstances.

It’s been reported Kate kneed him in the balls.

By me, just now, I made it up
“It’s been reported” doesn’t mean it actually happened you know.

@LoveSleeping

Erm hang on 'it has been reported' - where? Is there actually any proof that this happened? Or is it just the usual Daily Mail etc shit- stirring fake news?

Even if it did happen, plenty of people fall out with family members- it's no big deal!

Has it been reported by that ghastly Campbell woman who seems to have set herself up as the fount of all knowledge? If she told me the time I'd be checking my phone.

You weren't there.

Well we can agree on one thing OP, I do not share your notions of ‘polite’ behaviour.

But then again, I would never defame anyone as you do: “William still has no concept of racism” based on rumour and without a shred of proof. Vile, and definitely not polite.

I was victimised by a narcissistic covert bully at work. She was clever and popular and was regarded by many as something akin to a saint.

I had no idea to handle the situation, never having come across anything like it before. Sometimes I behaved angrily and unfriendly in front of others. This just played into her hands.

Sometimes, what the casual observer sees, is not the truth.

And who leaked this ‘news’? Obviously Meghan and Harry, and following their interview on OW, where many of their comments have been proven to be lies, it’s doubtful it’s true. They just like to put these little snippets out there to keep themselves relevant. I was hoping that once they left the UK, that they would just get on with their lives independent of the RF - after all, they said they crave privacy. But clearly they crave drama not privacy. What a horrible pair they are.

[quote fiheka]Three royals are alleged to have turned their back on Harry.

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/prince-harrys-frosty-reception-duke-20519009[/quote]
The most read on that site are

1. Prince Charles snubbing Meghan in Archie's birthday message.
2. Prince William cannot tolerate Meghan.
3. Kate and William go to twitter after Charles snubs Meghan.
4. Meghan and Harry issue a request to every fan over Archie's birthday present.

They might have a bit of an agenda on that site.

Oh ffs. He is married to a woman, who described herself as having lost her father and lied repeatedly on the biggest chat show on the planet about her in laws. How disrespectful both to her father and to everyone else on the planet, who have actually lost a parent. And PH didn’t stop her.

Their behaviour is beyond contempt.

What the members of the RF did or did not do and what Kate did that day by blanking them pails into insignificance compared to the way Meghan treated her father and the way H&M treated the RF.

I like Harry, but he doesn't strike me as someone who really thinks things through before acting.
For a family with the resources to pay for the best PR services in the world, their interactions with the press have been shocking. The basic rule should be 'never explain, never complain'! Someone ought to have made it very clear to both H & M (and other members of the RF who have done questionable interviews) that their power was in saying nothing - sometimes power is best wielded by not wielding it. Once you start suing newspapers and spilling your guts to Oprah you weaken your own position . She's given H &M enough rope to let them hang themselves. Instead of looking like they made a reasonable choice to withdraw and maintain dignity, they have enabled the world to pick holes in every word they say and there was plenty said that was not factually correct, which makes everything else questionable.
I can't entirely fathom MM - i don't believe that any woman wouldn't research what she was getting into. But being from another country maybe she didn't fully 'get' the level of commitment or obligation. She does seem to want all the privilege with none of the drawbacks - does she really think that Oprah's friendship isn't linked to her now being a member of the RF?
I could well believe that the palace machine didn't protect her as well as they could wrt the press though, especially if it suited them to have attention focussed there than elsewhere.

All that said, if anyone should be shunned it's Prince Andrew - he's the one who has brought real shame on the RF with his dodgy friendships etc.

[quote fiheka]@Theunamedcat Meghan is glamorous. She is very beautiful and stylish.[/quote]
And Harry and Meghan will continue to be a more glamorous RF in America.

But... I thought they didn't want to be part of the RF?

@Sallyandsam

Well we can agree on one thing OP, I do not share your notions of ‘polite’ behaviour.

But then again, I would never defame anyone as you do: “William still has no concept of racism” based on rumour and without a shred of proof. Vile, and definitely not polite.

My proof is that William said we are not a racist family. That is not true. Princess Michael is racist. If William does not realise that then yes he does not understand racism.

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously I'm of the firm opinion that, as an intelligent woman, she did get briefed fully re protocol and did the whole 'princess training' thing and understood it perfectly well. But yes because non-Brits don't really "get it" when it comes to the RF hierarchy, protocol and principles (let's face it many British people don't either, it is all a bit weird) I think she thought she'd go in and shake things up a little. And so genuinely believes that being told "no no, we don't want you to give anyone your opinion, you thank the plebs and kiss the babies then you move on" was her being 'silenced'.