To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

[fiheka]

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

@BalloonSlayer

But two people change position diagonally. It looks planned to me.

They were meant to rearrange themselves but not the way Harry caused.

That move from Prince Harry is quite significant in that world of ceremonial precision. How odd.
H&M did worse at last Commonwealth ceremony, when leaving they pushed through the chairs to be in front of Sophie and Edward. they were like primary school children.

@bluebell34567

they seem to be friendly with some RF members like Princess Eugenie (hence allowing her to live at Frogmore in their absense.) isnt there anywhere else to live in Queen's lots of places? why Frogmore Cottage?

I wouldn't be surprised if there's some tax type benefit in not leaving the property empty

@bluebell34567 can you explain in layman's terms what the commonwealth ceremony thing was about - I've seen a few people saying there were snubs etc but did they sit in the wrong place?

Charles certainly did attend the christening. The Queen rarely attends christenings beyond those of her grandchildren and an occasional great grandchild- depending when and where they are christened. She did not attend Prince Louis's or Lena Phillips' or the daughters of Peter Philips.

Harry did not attend Princess Charlotte's christening.

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop they didnt sit in the wrong place but when leaving they didnt do it orderly. they went through chairs instead of following Sophie and Edward and landed in front of them just after K&M.

I wonder if @fiheka is in the US- some of the things I have read on Twitter from people in the US- apparently Harry is the only member of the royal family to have served in the military.....

@SheldonesqueTheBstard

lauren

Tcheuchters dinnae put up wi petulance or pish. And hell mend ye if you affront your family or make a show of yourself.

There would be more quivery than petted lippies if they were up here.

Probably

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop, the problem started on the way in. The order of services stated that the Cambridges would walk in with the Queen, whereas the Sussexes should have already been seated inside. For whatever reason, the Cambridges ended up not walking in with HM but were instead seated already with the Sussexes as she arrived. The accepted version of events (which has never been disputed officially) is that the Sussexes were unhappy that they didn’t get to walk in ( because they had stepped down as senior Royals) and to keep the peace, W&K agreed to be seated. The at the end, as pp said, there was an unseemly scramble through the chairs to get out ahead of Edward and Sophie.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/03/09/prince-harry-meghan-will-not-commonwealth-day-procession-queen/

attached is an article from before the 2020 Commonwealth Ceremony and reports that H&M will sit due to no longer working royals etc etc and that the order of service will show this etc .

Then several days before the service, after the Order of service has been published showing William walking in with the Queen - it's all over the press (countless articles to search) saying that William will no longer walk. Harry wasn't happy about not walking, as was apparent by his behaviour pushing through chairs to be sure he was ahead of Edward and then slows down once behind William in his "rightful" place etc ie. senior to Edward in terms of line of succession, however as now a non-working royal won't be walking in any such ceremonies again.

Same shenanigans happen at the bottom of steps to ascend into chapel at funeral - he's told where to stand - it isn't behind William, he's no longer a working royal etc but he insists on being seen to be behind William (photos etc) so he still looks as if he's still got a role within RF.

If can't open link first bit says:
"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex will not be part of the Queen's procession through Westminster Abbey at the start of the Commonwealth Service this year as they make their final official appearance as senior members of the Royal Family.

Prince Harry and Meghan are joining the Queen, the Prince of Wales, the Duchess of Cornwall and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge as they carry out their last public royal duty before walking away from the monarchy.

But unlike last year, the Sussexes and the Cambridges will be conducted to their seats rather than waiting for the Queen's arrival and walking through the church with the monarch as they did last year.

The move marks the dawn of the Sussexes' new lives after they said in January that they intended to "step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family".

It will also mean the family are spared scrutiny over their interactions as Prince Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, Harry and Meghan meet for the first time in public since the latter declared they were leaving to pursue "financial independence" after persistent rumours that all is not well behind the scenes."

BTW the photos in the article are from the 2019 CC as this was obviously an article talking about the coming up 2020 CC - last event before Harry was gone (Archie had been in Canada since November, H&M had returned for a few final events or photo ops as they see them _

@Andylion
I watched the coverage from the link you posted.
The procession was in 2s and 3s; then at the bottom of the steps for the minute silence, the 4 children stood together in line at the bottom of the steps (obviously socially distanced of course), and then the 3 grandsons.
It had already been announced they would form in 2s to go into the Chapel. However, in the plan it had indicated that Harry would be diagonally behind PW. Instead he crossed over to be behind PW. It looked at bit odd, because although he was still side by side with Lord Linley (not sure of his correct title but Princess Margarets son), they actually crossed over each other. If this had been done more naturally, they would have just come together side by side as they were, with Harry behind Peter Philips, and Linley behind Prince William.
So, I am not sure whther there is any precedence, over who is on the right and who is on the left, or whether the plan I had seen in the paper was incorrect, and they had specifically been given these places.
I can only assume that precedence is given to the person on the right.

www.westminster-abbey.org/media/13230/commonwealth-service-2020.pdf

see attached published Order of Service etc when to stand, hymns etc and Queen's procession order which which is after the national anthem (numbered as page 10, but actually page 12 to scroll to as such). So Harry was getting to shake hands on the way in etc but then due to go to his seat, as it was William also did same and went to his seat - then the procession with Queen and all the Westminster Abbey clergy, choir etc all pass through to their places.

@pinkmagnolias

It was quite obviously a rehearsal

Rehearsals are done in the church where the wedding will take place. People practice where to stand, when to walk etc. They don't take place in other locations!!!

The run through of vows can happen anywhere.

The run through of vows can happen anywhere

They happen in rehearsals. Stop trying to make them sound silly for calling a rehearsal a wedding. They obviously exchanged personal/intimate vows.

@pinkmagnolias

The run through of vows can happen anywhere

They happen in rehearsals. Stop trying to make them sound silly for calling a rehearsal a wedding. They obviously exchanged personal/intimate vows.

I don’t need to try, she was talking bollocks. The only thing that sounds silly is attempting to defend or justify her lies.

Whatever it was, they did not “get married” 3 days before their wedding. And it was sneery of them to suggest that the big wedding was somehow unimportant.

what is particularly sneery is the "nobody knows that", as if they've duped people.

Seriously people, they left. It’s very easy to ignore them. Concentrate on following people you like. It would make you all much happier.

I wish it was easy to ignore them. They are popping up the whole time , spouting on about things they know nothing about as if they are special prophets. It is really irritating.

I can only assume that precedence is given to the person on the right.

I think that's right, the 'senior' person was on the right hand side, so Charles is senior to Anne, William is senior to Peter etc. And Harry seems to have been very keen to get behind William.

If all else on their money-making plans fails, they would probably have an excellent career in panto.