To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

[fiheka]

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

They exchanged their own vows to each other in the garden three days before the legal wedding. Perhaps they did consider that the real wedding?

Perhaps there was a credible security threat.

Yes you can easily imagine this: "OMG there's a credible security threat, William and Kate must be safely seated inside. No, not you, Your Majesty, you can walk in as normal." 😂

Desperate.

Well no - some are entitled to shape the royal family within protocols. Head of state and heirs would have input. Everyone else does as they're told (army style) see Anne etc, not kicking up a fuss.

The problem is someone that isn't entitled to shape the RF, trying to shape the RF (Harry).

When Harry goes, nothing at all changes. Everything carries on without him. Not a ripple, constitutionally.

If the Queen or Charles or William asked to do what Harry wants, it wouldn't happen either, but there would be constitutional issues discussed (about who replaces the heir that's gone a bit George III on us) political input, etc. Harry goes, nothing happens just loads of internet chat about what an entitled twonk he is.

security threat - did you see the ceremony? if you're so keen to defend Harry why don't you watch it, real time - everyone's faces tell the story, except one person with a bizarre Joker style grin...

@fiheka. Yes. They may well have done. The problem is that Meghan said “ we got married 3 days before” which to a reasonable person would imply a legal ceremony. People must have taken it as such when she first said it as it took a while for it to be realised that it could not be true.

Unlikely that H&M would listen to advice or requests from the RF. I think the "we may have been wrong" is damage limitation from their PR side to gauge reaction, not going well I'd wager

You could be right - especially about the failure to listen - but if the palace pressurised them to retract the "racism" suggestion over Archie's title, a lot could have depended on what was backing it

So far they've kept their much-touted titles and I'd be very surprised if there's no RF money going their way at all ... no doubt both useful bargaining points if the palace wished to use them

@fiheka

They exchanged their own vows to each other in the garden three days before the legal wedding. Perhaps they did consider that the real wedding?

In that case she could have said’ H and I exchanged vows in the garden, and though it wasn’t legal, we considered ourselves married from that point.’ Ok, no need for the lavish wedding paid for out of the public purse for a lot of random celebrities. Job done. No legal marriage. At least it would have been honest and saved a fortune. If they wanted the legalities they could have gone to a registry office. Instead they made a mockery of the real marriage and the British public. Why did she need to tell the world about it? Simple. To sneer.

I did watch a bit of the interview. I did believe it. Especially when she said not many people knew that. And was pretty shocked.It didn't enter my head somebody would tell such a lie. What would be the point. I still don't know.

Talking about royal money, I wonder if Prince Philip has left money to his grandchildren
I know he left his carriage and ponies to Lady Louise so just wondered if the others will also receive an inheritance from him

@MintyMabel

I found it highly amusing that she apparently thought the wedding rehearsal was the real ceremony. I’d have rolled my eyes at anyone who came out with that kind of nonsense.

But you understood she was talking about the rehearsal. You didn’t for one minute think she was saying there was an earlier wedding.

I did think she was saying there was an earlier wedding, in fact she said exactly that. I thought she was a tit because it was obvious to me that it was the pre ceremony run through of the vows that a lot of us had.

Why didn’t H interject and out her right as well? He knew perfectly well it wasn’t a legal marriage.

It did not sound like a wedding rehearsal, but a private ceremony.

No-one has publicly made a deal about Harry re-arranging himself during a funeral procession

I confess I have time on my hands. I just watched that part of the funeral, (I assume people mean when they entered the chapel). I cannot see that H did anything wrong, It looked to me as though those on foot made several, choreographed (or arranged) crossovers to realign themselves into pairs.

@fiheka

It did not sound like a wedding rehearsal, but a private ceremony.

It was quite obviously a rehearsal. We ran through our vows with the minister a few days before our wedding, it wasn’t a private ceremony.

But a wedding rehearsal is not just running through the vows. It is where different people stand and sit and involves more than the couple.

It’s all just semantics conveniently used as another stick to beat them with

It might have been had they paid for the entire circus themselves and had they not gone on to snigger up their sleeves to a global audience at the gawping peasants who did pay.

@CathyorClaire

It’s all just semantics conveniently used as another stick to beat them with

It might have been had they paid for the entire circus themselves and had they not gone on to snigger up their sleeves to a global audience at the gawping peasants who did pay.

Exactly

Why divulge their special personal viw sharing? That makes no sense to me.

Vow

@fiheka

It did not sound like a wedding rehearsal, but a private ceremony.

Why do you so want to believe absolutely everything Meghan says? What inspires your complete devotion? She's a flawed human being just like every one of us.

@Blossomtoes

I found it highly amusing that she apparently thought the wedding rehearsal was the real ceremony. I’d have rolled my eyes at anyone who came out with that kind of nonsense.

She knew damn well what a rehearsal involved. They're quite common in the US and she'd been married before.

@derxa I am not devoted to Meghan, I am not even that keen on her. But being balanced when people talk about Meghan often means pointing out the lies people tell themselves.

Meghan said they wrote their own private vows and said them in the garden. That is not a dress rehearsal.
There will have been a dress rehearsal of who sits where, who walks where etc before the wedding. I have been to dress rehearsal of a wedding in a cathedral. I wasn't even getting married but was there to be directed where I stood and then sat as a bridesmaid. The actual vow bit was - now you say your vows.

andy - Harry have a look at the attached - it was all over the UK press several days before the funeral, released letting Press know how procession would happen and that H& W were not going to be stood near one another, at William's request.

On the day you can see Harry moves from the far left and into the place that Snowdon was walking into meaning that him and Tim Laurence have a conversation about who should move where. It was to military precision, Harry chose to ignore where he was told to stand
The reason it's isn't a total mess is because others around him behave with extremely good grace.

diazhub.com/australia/who-will-walk-where-in-prince-philips-funeral-procession/

@fiheka

But a wedding rehearsal is not just running through the vows. It is where different people stand and sit and involves more than the couple.

It can be anything you want it to be. My truth is that running through my vows was a rehearsal - that’s how this works, isn’t it?