To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

[fiheka]

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

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@fiheka

Most men who are sex offenders are never prosecuted.

Yes thats true but your still not allowed to say that they are a sex offender the law is on their side not yours however abhorrent it may be you just cannot call them that even if your the victim

To go back to the OP - IF members of the RF turned their backs on Harry (and as I didn't see it, I don't know if it's true) then it would be along the lines of reward good behaviour and ignore bad. You can't expect to attack your family in public and be warmly welcomed by everyone. My totally unsubstantiated view would be that they're all too polite to have behaved like that and would, at the very least, discussed the weather with him.

@fiheka

The Queen is head of state. William will be one day. If you think Charles did not push his controversial views then I suspect you are young. The newspapers used to be full of his latest speech.

That's true - and he was slated for it. As was Edward for leaving the Marines and going to work for Andrew Lloyd Webber.

So the men do get the flack, but it tends not to be as personal as it is towards the women. Maybe?

At a distance, we seem able to look at the overall picture, which I am sure is what will happen with M & H in time.

But the truth is some of them do involve themselves in controversial views such as Charles with architecture, organic farming and homoeopathy.

The truth is none of those things are political.

@ChiefInspectorParker

I did see a photo which looked like Tim Laurence turning his back towards Harry in St George’s Chapel.

Sir Tim walked behind Harry in the funeral procession, with Lord Snowdon behind William. As we know, Peter Phillips walked between W & H.

As the procession walked up the steps, Peter was parallel with W, and H should have been behind Peter & parallel with Snowdon, with Sir Tim bringing up the rear (as the group was an odd number).

But actually, Harry ended up directly behind William. Snowdon had to move across and slot in behind Peter Phillips.

Sir Tim, at the rear, would have seen this happen. Perhaps he wasn’t very impressed.

I thought there had been reports - or at least some mumsnetters claimed - Princess Anne was the one, who made the skin colour comment. Perhaps TL was smarting from that. None of us know the context of the conversation but P Anne does not strike me as racist.

@fiheka

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him. I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral. It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan. It is just so rude and awful.

Did you watch the funeral? I didn't see one single person turn his back to him

[quote fiheka]Three royals are alleged to have turned their back on Harry.

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/prince-harrys-frosty-reception-duke-20519009[/quote]
So you believe an article that uses the word alleged but prints nothing to back it up. Articles with no proof are generally lies. Curious why you would believe something without seeing proof

ChiefInspectorParker - yes I noticed Harry re-arrange himself at the funeral as about to ascend steps into the chapel, insisting on ignoring the published order of ceremony and putting himself directly behind William.

Luckily Snowdon and Tim had better manners and good grace to recognise Harry's silly behaviour and didn't react, but re-arranged themselves before going up the steps to prevent a Carry-on style farce; it was a close thing though - everything else and everyone else worked like military clockwork, except Harry. Perhaps he felt it was a little victory when all it does is confirm his behaviour will never change.

I noticed same petulant Harry behaviour at Commonwealth Ceremony when he virtually pushed chairs to be sure he was behind William as they stood up to leave and make sure he was in front of Edward.

No-one has publicly made a deal about Harry re-arranging himself during a funeral procession, what with previously having been in the military - he still can't follow orders.

I can imagine Tim and the wider family were extremely unimpressed with that lack of respect, again and during a funeral. What Harry wants, Harry gets.

It will be interesting to see if Harry makes an appearance on 1st July for the unveiling of the statue. It might be postponed.

[quote fiheka]@PegPeople No one is saying Kate and William turned their back on Harry at the funeral. Although Kate especially was rude at the CC.[/quote]
Kate has every reason to be pissed with Megan after the crap Megan spouted. Megans own staff said it was kate that was made to cry, and not Kate made Megan cry as Megan claimed in her Oprah interview. If Megan is such a nice person why have her staff made claims of bullying.

As for not inviting someone to a funeral. MY cousin stole money from my grandmother by taking out cards in her name the day after she died, he was told to stay away from the funeral and no one has spoken to him since. She died 17 years ago. There's no way I'd make small talk to scum like him just because the occasion is a funeral

@Viviennemary

It will be interesting to see if Harry makes an appearance on 1st July for the unveiling of the statue. It might be postponed.

Whatever happens, I hope the focus is on where it should be: the unveiling of Diana’s statue and not on Harry.

Harry and Meghan were booed on their last public appearance for the Royal Family and if Harry/both of them attend this year, the Palace could have a headache ensuring that doesn’t happen again and preventing sulky facial expressions dominating the media when the event is supposed to be about Diana.

Although, since I’m not a Diana fan, I’d be quite happy to see the whole event scrapped anyway.

When were H and M booed? I don’t remember that.
@Marmaladeagain I didn’t notice what happened in the funeral procession but H and M’s behaviour in pushing through their chairs at the Commonwealth service was comical. At that occasion, I did think Kate and Sophie let the side down as they were represented the Queen and shouldn’t have shown personal feelings. However, I do understand how they felt.

@fiheka

No I do not know for sure. But there have been so many reports of it with no attempt from the palace to squash it, that I believe it. And we know Harry and Meghan have been snubbed at the CC.

I am looking forward to the next Crown when the public are reminded just how badly the RF treated Diana.

What reports, you have linked a birmingham local paper, I haven't seen these reports anywhere other than the one paper you linked, which, didn't included proof

@Lauren15

When were H and M booed? I don’t remember that. *@Marmaladeagain* I didn’t notice what happened in the funeral procession but H and M’s behaviour in pushing through their chairs at the Commonwealth service was comical. At that occasion, I did think Kate and Sophie let the side down as they were represented the Queen and shouldn’t have shown personal feelings. However, I do understand how they felt.

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-booed-17873434.amp

[quote fiheka]@SaturdayRocks it annoys me when I think of a father not doing anything about other family members literally turning their back on him.

@YanTanTethera123 We clearly disagree. My Dp said if he died before me he did not want his brother to attend. I told him I was not prepared to stop any member of his family attending as I think it is wrong to do that.[/quote]
But it's not wrong to go against your husband's wishes

Oh, the illustrious Birmingham Mail again which reports that one onlooker briefly booed.

Yes they did receive a "boooo" as they went in, it wasn't reported in UK much at all or even at all, but on Australian news and you can hear it yourself if you're inclined to look for the video. Not a crowd booing, but very loud and long boo - I think it's extremely likely they would be booed on returning or met with deathly silence.

Meghan saying her wedding was a spectacle for the hoi polloi and they were already married (sniggering up their sleeve) - I think some of those flag wavers might like to take the opportunity to respond to them with some pantomime booing - we have a history of the pantomime after all.

www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-will-attend-one-of-their-final-events-as-senior-royals-on-friday/news-story/1e5bef9d2b413f88cedb3200696af004

have to play the video - I did notice it at the time on our news, but it wasn't repeated with the boooooooing. It was a long boo you see, not a short boo.

@Blossomtoes

Oh, the illustrious Birmingham Mail again which reports that one onlooker briefly booed.

I googled it and it was the first of many to come up. You can listen to it yourself on YouTube as well. Would you prefer the report from a different media outlet as there are plenty more to chose from?

Trying to deflect from the fact I’m right that Harry was booed by belittling the origin of the evidence I linked doesn’t do you any favours.

@Blossomtoes

Oh, the illustrious Birmingham Mail again which reports that one onlooker briefly booed.

To be fair it’s the Birmingham Mail that got the OP so angsty in the first place. It’s doing well on the H&M clicks - maybe that’s why there are so many stories about them.

There is a royal reporter (I forget his name) doing the rounds insisting all these things are happening. There isn’t a shred of evidence of anything other than that this guy is trying to increase his profile with unverified accounts of things going on.

I do agree there are weird family dynamics at play, and the likelihood is that the history of family members going against the establishment is affecting how both sides are behaving now. There will undoubtedly be a rift which splits along the lines of what is expected in family duty and whether an individual’s needs should be met. But, it is impossible to know who is taking sides with whom and what is being said behind closed doors. I expect, as is the case in all rifts, nobody is blameless. It’s easy to say as a father Charles should be doing this or that, but he is also heir to the throne and has a responsibility to the Crown. I don’t envy anyone trying to balance that.

Who you decide is the cause of it and who is the poor victim is likely based purely on which couple you like more.