To be shocked at some RF members turning their back?

[fiheka]

It has been reported that some Royal Family members literally turned their back on Prince Harry at Prince Philip's funeral and refused to even acknowledge him.
I have had extended family members behave badly and are in no hurry to be friendly. But I think this is appalling behaviour. I would never do that and especially not at a funeral.
It reminds me of that video being shared where William and Kate totally snub and ignore Harry and Meghan.
It is just so rude and awful.

@Twinkie01 I agree with you about Diana - she's martyrised now she's dead (harsh but true) so people forget just how difficult she also was and how she used to court the press

You've completely missed the point there fiheka.

If Meghan has the right to refuse to speak or have anything to do with her sister and father because they betrayed her by bad mouthing her publicly, then the RF also have the right to refuse to have anything to do with H&M because they have betrayed them by bad mouthing them publicly.

[quote fiheka]@dancealittleclosertome As I understand it Meghan hardly knew Samantha. Very different to how you treat a close family member at a funeral.[/quote]
You understand incorrectly, but then you know that, your agenda is obvious.

I am not against family members refusing to talk to each other. But physically turning your back on a close family member at a funeral and pretending they do not even exist is an aggressive act.

But this simply didn't happen. Your only 'evidence' is a few 'news' stories which no one at the Palace has commented on. When the reality is clearly very different in the actual footage of the funeral. You're getting all worked up about something that never happened.

Nowhere in any of this has any member of the RF bad mouthed anyone publicly btw.

God who can blame her for turning Samantha Markle away! You don't just turn up uninvited to the Buckingham Palace! Fucking hell this is MN where 99% of posters don't even answer their own doors and go NC with their MIL because she called round unannounced, but people expect MM to welcome her shit stirring racist sister she barely knows into her new family

BTW I'm pretty sure letting in a random long lost family member into a royal household was the story that the movie The Favourite was inspired by - and look how that turned out for Queen Anne!

I have no doubt some of the extended family did that. They are not known for their emotional intelligence as a family are they?

@amusedtodeath1

You've completely missed the point there fiheka.

If Meghan has the right to refuse to speak or have anything to do with her sister and father because they betrayed her by bad mouthing her publicly, then the RF also have the right to refuse to have anything to do with H&M because they have betrayed them by bad mouthing them publicly.

This.

I support MM's right to cast out her batshit gob shite gossip selling family members.

I also support the RF's right to cast out the batshit gobshite gossip selling H&M

I wouldn’t have spoken to him if it were my family. You don’t get to choose which parts of bring a family you like and which you don’t, then publicly bad mouth what you dislike (see Oprah) whilst petulantly demanding what you do (see titles, money, security).

Why should that sort of behaviour be overlooked in anyone? It doesn’t matter who they are, they trashed his family and are now seeing the consequences.

Exactly!

If Meghan has the right to refuse to speak or have anything to do with her sister and father because they betrayed her by bad mouthing her publicly, then the RF also have the right to refuse to have anything to do with H&M because they have betrayed them by bad mouthing them publicly

Yes. This.

[quote fiheka]@Heyha Imagine someone posting on here that they had been accused of being racist by another family member and were so outraged that they wanted to cut that person out of the family?
People would be asking whether the OP was racist.

Also as I understand it very few members of the family visited Philip before he died. His children and wife. Plenty of other grandchildren did not visit him.

And the RF frankly are not like us. The Queen did not go to Archies christening or two of Williams children's christenings either. I can not imagine that happening in my family either.[/quote]
Heard of COVID restrictions have you?

You clearly don’t have a problem with Harry and Meghan’s appalling, unchallenged interview so you carry on. Frankly I think he’s lucky William didn’t punch him

@amusedtodeath1 then you are naive. Various members of the RF use their friendly journalists to get their point of view into the press.
That became totally apparent when Diana and Charles divorced. And yes both bad-mouthed each other.
But it has happened plenty of other times too.

Personally I would have found it difficult to be nice to him given the circumstances. I don't blame them for being angry with him. I would have turned my back rather than have an argument at a funeral tbh. But I don't blame any of them for showing their disgust. It's wrong what they did, on top of that Philip was very ill when they filmed it at 99 it's always touch and go.

@LoveSleeping

Erm hang on 'it has been reported' - where? Is there actually any proof that this happened? Or is it just the usual Daily Mail etc shit- stirring fake news?

Even if it did happen, plenty of people fall out with family members- it's no big deal!

This.

The press twist, cut and edit to tell the story that gets the most coverage.

Plus if I had just badmouthed my father and brother on international television and then accused my family publicly of racism... all whilst my elderly grandfather was gravely ill and frail in hospital; well I wouldn’t be surprised if they needed a cooling off period before they were ready to talk to me.

@Nanny0gg Yes I know why family did not visit Philip. But that poster was criticising Harry for not visiting Philip. Lots of them did not because of the restrictions.

I neither know nor care who ignored/didn't ignore who else. What I do wonder though, is who benefits from reporting this kind of allegation and stirring up gossip?
The less people care about it, the less money there will be in it and the less it will happen.

Frangipani you misunderstand - no-one expected Meghan to welcome her sister after everything the sister had said about her, but equally no-one expects all the Royal Family to welcome Harry after the barrage of mud-slinging, from the Africa documentary, then the Omid Scobie book and more recently, the Oprah interview.

Well if my family turned their back on me at my grandfathers funeral and refused to acknowledge me, I would be off afterwards and would not look back.

@dancealittleclosertome then I do believe we agree my friend

I am no royalist but why are you taking this so much to heart OP?. The papers, mainly the tabloids make money printing this kind of rubbish because it sells. It stokes the feeding frenzy of misogyny. It is bread and circuses with the Royal Family as the current soap opera.

All the women who have married into the Royal Family have been subjected to this but strangely not the men. I am old enough to remember how they treated Sarah Ferguson, the cruelty they showed her calling her Duchess of Pork when she had just given birth, she was never out of the paper. It was the drip, drip of poison. People keep saying Meghan has had it worse than anyone but Fergie suffered just as much in her time. Constantly picking holes in their target, whether it be Fergie, Diana, Kate or Meghan. They skew stories to suit their narrative. The setting women against one another, Fergie/Diana, Kate/Meghan is a favourite tactic. They have an agenda and women have always been a target for their bile. And people lap it up and believe it all. Just stop reading this kind of tittle tattle, most of it is made up or exaggerated. Reserve your anger and indignation for real issues and injustices.

Frankly the whole Royal Family are dysfunctional. Charles is not a popular member of the family and the hope seems to be resting on the anodyne Kate and William who clearly are not in love, but will stick together because they must.

@fiheka

Well if my family turned their back on me at my grandfathers funeral and refused to acknowledge me, I would be off afterwards and would not look back.

If you were just hot off the heels of Oprah Winfrey slagging them off and calling them racist would you be at all surprised? Would you maybe not think it's a little bit deserved?

You can't throw your family under the bus in the most spectacular way and then 3 weeks later expect them to embrace you back into the fold like nothing happened.

That interview was a deep betrayal, not just of his family members personally, but everything that the institution he was born into and benefitted from for nearly 40 years, stands for.

I'm far from naive, Yes PR is PR and they're all at it slipping stuff to the press under the guise of "reliable source", you're naive if you believe that M&H haven't been doing this too.

I will state this again, No member of the royal family has spoken publicly (directly) to the public about this or anything else relating to Megxit except for H&M, Samantha, Thomas and William who's only comment was "we are not a racist family".

That's it.

Maybe the members who ignored Harry wanted to be selfish or rude. Every other Tom, Dick or Harry get to be rude to relatives, sometime. What are we saying, that the royals have to be perfect all the time, but aren't perfect, so we want our tax money back?

Why don't we give them a break from having to attend every single family event (which could of public interest) in the public eye? Say they can do it behind closed doors and without the cameras , sometimes. Then it won't be as rude as it won't be a public slight - it will be a private one.

Yes, it may have been ill-mannered, but who expects them to behave with aplomb , all the time? It's up to them isn't it? Meghan said they were too stuck up and hide bound, and needed to ditch the form, and the curtsying , and do things without always having to ask the rhetorical question: 'Is this appropriate?' So whoever turned their back was just telling it like it is. If they'd stuck two fingers up at Harry, it would have been rude - but translucently human, also. So it's wrong to be perfect and plastic all the time, but it's wrong to show your true feelings when you're relative whose Queen is anxious and bereaved.
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So the royals can't win any which way.

I saw Catherine speak to Harry, and that was friendly, and she had been the one who had been 'thrown under a bus' in the Oprah interview. You can say: " That report of me making Kate cry was inaccurate" without saying , "And by the way, it was the other way round: I was made to cry." You can set the facts straight without disparaging the other person.