Omid Scodie says Meghan was wrong about Archie becoming a prince at birth

[artquejtion]

He has publicly stated that Meghan was incorrect about her understanding of the protocol around Archie becoming a Prince.

Considering Omid seems to the M & H unofficial spokesperson, it is more than likely that Meghan now realises this is the case and his skin colour would not have been a deciding factor in it.

it does make you wonder why Harry did not explain it to her ? did he just not have a clue about about Royal protocol and succession, maybe he never needed to understand it. . Or was he so desperate to get her to marry him that he fed her a load of bull, i.e. our kids will be princesses and princes. Did he hope he could convince the queen to change protocol for his family?

Please don't get this thread deleted with comments which MN don't like, I am beginning to suspect there are posters who purposely troll M & H threads to ensure MN will delete them, so there is never a discussion allowed to stand..

[Marmaladeagain]

Yes startuprepair, - niece and nephew of the Queen, so exactly the position Archie would be when Charles is on the throne - do any of those fuming about Harry situation have a clue who they both are?

Harry simply must have lied to M about how important he is in the RF and didn't explain he is moving sideways and very quickly down out of the mainframe - support role one day to Prince George on offer.

[JustLyra]

niece and nephew of the Queen, so exactly the position Archie would be when Charles is on the throne

When Charles is on the throne they’ll be his grandchildren.

When William is on the throne Archie will be his nephew.

[Marmaladeagain]

yes sorry, bit late - that's what I mean - main point though - is not one of these people in the US arguing on Harry's behalf understand how irrelevant the has quickly become as the line moves directly down through William etc

[TruelyWonder]

It is all just to smooth the way for his up dated version of his book Finding Attention that is about to be released. Sure we will get whatever new interpretation of the latest event there is in the book. What joy (sarcasm). Hopefully people won't be stupid enough to buy it.

[TruelyWonder]

@Marmaladeagain

yes sorry, bit late - that's what I mean - main point though - is not one of these people in the US arguing on Harry's behalf understand how irrelevant the has quickly become as the line moves directly down through William etc

No they don't and those that have realised about the titles haven't publicly apologised for their mistake either. If I went on Twitter or a TV show ranting about it I would be publicly apologising now. Afraid the Fans and friends have no basic manners.

[lulugee]

There was no need for any of this, really, and it could have all been avoided by Harry giving Meghan the education she needed to enter such a stuffy and old fashioned institution. She wouldn't have then felt the need to constantly challenge it.


This. I actually think Harry is a dimwit and to blame for much of what's happened but has somehow managed to escape under the radar unscathed.

[TruelyWonder]

From the way the family have talked about always looking after him and other things. I agree that Haz isn't that smart and has issues beyond the death of his mothers. I really don't think he knew the protocol for titles or would have ever bothered listening if someone told him.

[TruelyWonder]

The surprise rising star of all this drama seems to be Zara's husband. Who would have thought that. She picked well with him.

Brilliant with the kids. Lots of photos of his fun childcare whilst she is competing at cross country events. He does a podcasts and interviews that are so level headed in comments about the family. No backstabbing or anything about anyone on either side. The type of person you can trust.

[Viviennemary]

Charles has been saying for years he wants a slimmed down royal family. So its nothing new. And very sensible.

[dottiedaisee]

Despite all the explanations I just think that H@M had their own expectations! Something went very wrong with Harry’s education!

[JovialNickname]

I find it very hard to believe that either of them genuinely didn't know that their children would be treated differently to William's. Sadly, the whole point of Harry is that he's the "spare" (or was, before he backed out). It's not a new or novel idea to him, or anyone, that he isn't going to become King but his brother is and therefore protocols are different. This is like brother to the future King 101. It's literally why he exists. I don't believe either he or his very intelligent wife stumbled upon this as a surprise.

[Theunamedcat]

Harry has been indulged by his granny before in guessing he thought he could get his own way again this time

They made such a fuss about not wanting a title then come out with all this

[DeeCeeCherry]

OP you've put this post up knowing it's going to result in ludicrous armchair psychology from people who don't know MM or the RF personally. That Daily Heil links and references are mostly used, says a lot about mindsets.

Idle gossip from uninformed people. Involving a child too. Is Archie a target of hate now...?

Given that he was depicted as a monkey by a racist idiot (a happening summarily ignored of course because the racists here are cool with that & actually think Meghan should be) and there appears to be glee in him not having a title, I'd say so.

The obsessed coven gets worse.

[Marmaladeagain]

The most uninformed is Meghan, Harry made sure of that. He omitted how unimportant he is in the RF going forward now William has children.

No-one has ever said Danny Baker tweet was acceptable, so you are lying that anyone on MN has defended him.

Good try, but getting increasingly weak with the telling others what they’re allowed to think and discuss - being extremely uninformed yourself.

[TruelyWonder]

Don't do racism thanks. Unlike some of the attention seeking pair. I have twice reported posts for racism from them. One was so blatantly antisemitic. Yet I didn't see any of the regular posters that come on and tell everyone they are racist say a word.

It is not racism to dislike the pair. If people constantly put themselves in the public eye. It is normal for others to have an opinion. This thread from was started because yet again a friend of theirs said something worth discussing. Unless you believe nobody should ever question anything. Which is frankly odd and rather dangerous. What the heck are you on about.

Plus I haven't read the whole thread but if I see anything racist trust me people would know.

[TruelyWonder]

It is interesting that the co author prat is saying basically Oh it was all a big misunderstanding about titles. Oprah recently claimed in an interview she had no idea that the couple would go so far. I wondered at the time by the way she said it if she was edging away from the conflict a bit. A little not my fault it was all them moment.

I don't know you can't be sure. All interesting stuff from a PSYCHOLOGY point of view though😉

[DeeCeeCherry]

Marmaladeagain

& You are 'informed', are you?

No-one has ever said Danny Baker tweet was acceptable, so you are lying that anyone on MN has defended him

The point is NOT saying it's unacceptable, whilst happily gossiping about Archie not getting/deserving a title.

As well as your lying about what I actually said. Perhaps the Daily Heil pages are your home so you're automatically twisting words here too.

Archie is a child who experienced racism at the hands of the British media. Most of you are here compounding that.

Yet again scorning MM, talking about her son, calling her husband thick.

I don't need to "try" . I know mean girl racists when I see them, not hard to spot. It's clear what's bothering you about MM & her son specifically, and an English Prince marrying her.

It's why the posts on MN are continuous . You can't help your envy and disapproval so the Jackanory stories go on & on in farcical fashion.

[TruelyWonder]

Has the Danny Baker tweet been mentioned on this thread then?

[Anne1958]

Harry simply must have lied to M about how important he is in the RF and didn't explain he is moving sideways and very quickly down out of the mainframe - support role one day to Prince George on offer

I don’t for a minute believe Meghan wouldn’t have googled him or the Royal family in order to find out more about them as she went along. It would be human nature to do so in this day and age.

I suspect she’s probably used to telling untruths and has surrounded herself over the years with people who don’t pull her up on it and make excuses for her by saying but she’s really nice apart from that.

I doubt she gave any thought at all to the possibility that the OW interview would back fire on them.

[Anne1958]

And of course being papped topless "engaging in a marital act" (quote from court testimony) on a balcony visible from a public road

They were with friends and a William was rubbing sunscreen on her.

[Roussette]

@DeeCeeCherry spot on.

I'm just amazed that there is so much criticism and nastiness about a woman about to give birth after a miscarriage, all on a parenting website.
God help us when she does actually have the baby girl... posters will be out in force.
Last time with little Archie she was a useless mother the way she held him in a papoose because she was going to damage him, when she read him a story she was obviously disengaged from him because Archie didn't look at her, and his appearance was mocked and ridiculed in a 'poor boy he has thomas markle's genes, serves her right haha' way.

What a way to be... yet those that stick up for her have 'no manners'? Dont make me laugh...

[EdithWeston]

Last time with little Archie she was a useless mother the way she held him in a papoose

I think you're projecting here.

She was clearly unfamiliar with that sling and Archie was not being properly held/supported by it. Of course a posters with experience of slings will notice that, and there are a higher number of them on thus website than in the population in general.

A mistake over a sling is not the sum of maternity. But it is something that went wrong

[Roussette]

Projecting? Not sure what you mean. I never used a sling or papoose.

She was a first time mother! No one gets it right straight off. The vitriol about it was truly awful.
And not coming from a place of care or concern.

[Crocidura]

I'm just amazed that there is so much criticism and nastiness about a woman about to give birth after a miscarriage, all on a parenting website.

It's a bit unrealistic to expect people not to criticise Meghan for lying in the Oprah interview, just because she's pregnant after a loss. She and Harry do go looking for attention and not all of the reaction will be positive.
I think this thread is actually quite measured, and more critical of Harry for not preparing her and helping her.