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Omid Scodie says Meghan was wrong about Archie becoming a prince at birth

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artquejtion · 01/05/2021 09:32

He has publicly stated that Meghan was incorrect about her understanding of the protocol around Archie becoming a Prince.

Considering Omid seems to the M & H unofficial spokesperson, it is more than likely that Meghan now realises this is the case and his skin colour would not have been a deciding factor in it.

it does make you wonder why Harry did not explain it to her ? did he just not have a clue about about Royal protocol and succession, maybe he never needed to understand it. . Or was he so desperate to get her to marry him that he fed her a load of bull, i.e. our kids will be princesses and princes. Did he hope he could convince the queen to change protocol for his family?

Please don't get this thread deleted with comments which MN don't like, I am beginning to suspect there are posters who purposely troll M & H threads to ensure MN will delete them, so there is never a discussion allowed to stand..

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Roussette · 04/05/2021 20:11

It's a compulsion we all have for different subjects!

Mine is a geography/travel thing. I'm obsessed. My bucket list will never be emptied!

smilesy · 04/05/2021 20:12

According to Amazon, it was first published in 1989 so she was perfectly entitled to use HRH. After the divorce, she was Sarah, Duchess of York on the same style as Diana, princes of Wales so she was equally entitled to write a book called “Dieting with the Duchess”.

Roussette · 04/05/2021 20:14

Never said she wasn't entitled to. I was just comparing to the one book by Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.

Sarah did do a lot of books using her Duchess title after she left the RF. Just sayin' that Meghan can't be criticised for that as others have done it prolifically.

derxa · 04/05/2021 20:18

@JustLyra

I'm sure at least the first book was written while Sarah was still married so HRH The Duchess of York would have been right.

I don't dare fall down the rabbit hole of getting into looking for all the dates as I'll end up there all night clicking on one thing after another!

It's all on her Wiki page
JustLyra · 04/05/2021 20:19

@Roussette

It's a compulsion we all have for different subjects!

Mine is a geography/travel thing. I'm obsessed. My bucket list will never be emptied!

Royals isn’t even my compulsion. It was one of my DC’s obsessions for a couple of years.

I don’t dare let it slip in case it comes back as daft o’clock meltdowns over something trivial are hellish, and with it being part of their condition it’s not as easy as just saying “Google it yourself”

HKSW456 · 04/05/2021 20:22

Meghan is certainly very talented at making up stories.

Lauren15 · 04/05/2021 20:29

Fergie did get criticised at the time and people were a bit Hmm when Charles wrote his. I remember him reading it on Jackanory. It was a very dull book. There’s no difference in reaction to M.
No one has mentioned the unbelievable irony of launching a book about a wonderful father/son relationship when things are so strained between C and H. Since becoming a parent myself, I’ve done my best to treat my parents as I’d want my dcs to treat me.

Cacacoisfarraige · 04/05/2021 20:31

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BasiliskStare · 04/05/2021 20:33

Oh - look I wish those two both well & I do - but seriously - if you want your own life stop using the titles - it is embarrassing. Unless you you want to trade off the RF

Not sure what US people think

But mayhap the Duchess of York used that to her advantage,

Still not sure how if they just said Harry & Meghan that would not work for them . Trading off the position but not taking the piss.

didofido · 04/05/2021 20:42

@Cacacoisfarraige

Does anyone else wonder if Archies first word was really crocodile?

The bench book might be very interesting then 😀

It's possible. My 2nd DS's first word was kangaroo. He was 9 or 10 months. I was gobsmacked.
Roussette · 04/05/2021 20:52

Cacacoisfarraige
I’m just crossing my fingers now that Trumps Facebook ban isn’t overturned

Amen. I am with you on that. I think it's being announced on FB tomorrow morn US time.

We were due to go on the holiday of a lifetime a year and a month ago. So so looking forward to it... obviously it didn't happen. All my research gone to pot 🤣

ExitChasedByABee · 04/05/2021 20:57

I just saw the picture and the illustrations look lovely. I didn’t know they could use those titles? I thought they had the titles but couldn’t use them as they’re now private citizens?

I also had no idea Charles had written a few books and it sounds like Sarah Ferguson has written quite a lot.

Marmaladeagain · 04/05/2021 20:59

@Cacacoisfarraige that made me laugh - that's how I got drawn in - kept being told I'm a racist. The irony of them supporting the known racist Harry, is never lost.

I've never had to apologise for using racial slurs, but apparently the reformed racist is worth 10 regular non-racists. Grin

I've been a royalist, then a republican (for a brief while) thought through all the alternatives and come back to saying stick with what we've got and reform away, slim it down.

If I'm not called a racist, then I'm a deferential twerp that thinks "royals are be''tter than me, god bless 'em". Both rather objectionable views in their own right - so find myself on these threads Grin

In real life, no-one gives a shit about H&M I've found generally to be the case, including me - just go away, be good if they stopped with the titles, just makes them look frankly ridiculous after their public meltdowns - but being called a deferential racist does require a response, I find.

smilesy · 04/05/2021 21:03

@Roussette on the previous page you said “HRH, Duchess of York, after her divorce”. I assumed you were talking about writing books with HRH after she divorced. I don’t think she used the HRH after her divorce. She was aware of protocol.

Roussette · 04/05/2021 21:06

OK. Glad you cleared that up for me.

She wrote nearly 80 books and there were a lot of them with HRH Duchess of York on.

I really can't start researching it now but you obviously know. So that's fine.
She just stuck with Duchess of York. Like Meghan is doing now.

I am happy to be fact checked. Because I do it to other false facts on here.

JustLyra · 04/05/2021 21:07

@ExitChasedByABee

I just saw the picture and the illustrations look lovely. I didn’t know they could use those titles? I thought they had the titles but couldn’t use them as they’re now private citizens?

I also had no idea Charles had written a few books and it sounds like Sarah Ferguson has written quite a lot.

It’s only the HRH they won’t be using in their private work.
Viviennemary · 04/05/2021 21:14

I thought Fergie had only written two or three books but no she's written quite a few. And has a Mills & Boon historical coming out in August. Shock Based on an ancestor of hers. Have to say it has quite a nice cover.

Roussette · 04/05/2021 21:16

I presume (but don't know) it's been a big source of income for her. She's been writing books for decades. There's a lot of them!

ExitChasedByABee · 04/05/2021 21:17

@JustLyra That makes sense, thanks for clarifying Smile

smilesy · 04/05/2021 21:24

@Roussette. She started writing in 1989 when she was still married. She wasn’t divorced until 1996 so that would probably explain why she wrote a lot of books under the HRH title. I haven’t said that Meghan shouldn’t use her Duchess title when she writes, as she is allowed to and cannot be stopped. I was just pointing out that Fergie was allowed to use HRH when she did and stopped when she was no longer entitled to. I do, however, think Meghan is using it to monetise it as the Duchess of York may well have done, although I notice that her recent books are simply under Sarah Ferguson.

Roussette · 04/05/2021 21:33

I'm not disputing anything you say?

You've corrected me. I've accepted that.

And I'm not sure why Meghan should be 'stopped'? Sarah wasn't. She carried on with a lot of books and the Duchess title for a very long time. Along with a lot of other selling ventures, like Wedgewood, a public speaking circuit, and offering access to Andrew for cash.

Of course Meghan is trying to make money like Sarah ... they are earning a living? Nothing odd with one book being published.

halcyondays · 04/05/2021 21:46

In Sarah’s book about her time in the RF, she says that she didn’t take any money from Andrew after getting divorced, not sure why, and she needed money to pay off debts.

ExitChasedByABee · 05/05/2021 04:11

@halcyondays I’m not sure how accurate that is as it’s been reported that Andrew borrowed from Epstein to pay off Sarah’s debts. Something to do with owing money to someone. Unless you mean take money for a divorce settlement?

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artquejtion · 05/05/2021 06:01

I do wonder if they are using their titles for financial gain in a defiant way, a kind of 'eff you, we will use our titles to make money whenever we want'.

A bit like the 'we got married 3 days before the big wedding', kind of the finger to others and a further rebellion to being told what they can and can't do.

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